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Bench Re-Retest Results: Samsung 40T 35A 4000mAh 21700...amazing performer but 25A/35A

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  1. Mooch

    Mooch Electron Wrangler Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    May 13, 2015
    These tests below only note the ESTIMATED ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.

    Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.

    Testing batteries at their limits is dangerous and should never, ever, be attempted by anyone who has not thoroughly studied the dangers involved, understands the risks, has the proper equipment, and takes all appropriate safety precautions.

    If the battery has only one current rating number, or if it only says "max", then I have to assume the battery is rated at that current level for any type of discharge, including continuous.

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    Bottom Line
    This is another retest to check on the performance of this cell as it, hopefully, comes into full production soon.

    This cell outperforms every 18650 and 20700 in regulated devices at up to about 20A-25A (60W-75W). Only the Samsung 30T hits harder for 21700’s. In my opinion though it is not a 35A battery, as rated in the datasheet.

    At 35A continuous this cell reaches almost 90°C. That is too hot to ensure decent cycle life. A rating of 25A continuous brings it to about the same temperature that the Samsung 30T reaches at its rating.

    At above 20A-25A (60W-75W) the Samsung 30T is the better performer anyway. The 40T is best at low to mid power levels where it can be the most efficient. The 40T is still an amazing 25A battery though!

    If you are running your mod at 60W-75W per battery you will have to try both the 30T and 40T to see which performs better for the way you vape. It’s just not possible to predict.

    The two cells I tested delivered 4048mAh and 4062mAh at 0.8A (0.2C) down to 2.5V.

    I am estimating this cell’s ratings to be 25A with a temperature-limited rating of 35A (if kept below 80°C) and 4000mAh.

    Two cells were donated for the purposes of testing by Fogstar (Fogstar - The UK's #1 trusted source of 18650 Batteries). Thank you!


    Continuous Current Discharge Graphs
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    Ratings Graphic
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    Performance Specs
    - DC Internal Resistance = 13.5mOhms (milliohms) average for the two cells.
    - Total energy delivered down to 3.2V at 10A continuous = 11.3Wh (Watt-hours) average
    - Total energy delivered down to 3.2V at 20A continuous = 10.1Wh (Watt-hours) average

    I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability and testing news and a say in what I test then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: Battery Mooch is creating battery tests and educating vapers | Patreon.

    To see how other cells have tested check out this link: List of Battery Tests | E-Cigarette Forum
     
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  2. madstabber

    madstabber Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    This is great news since I just picked a couple of them up. I always vape under 60 watts as well so looks like a match made in heaven.
    I’d also like to add, I bought them at 18650batterystore and was happy with the service. First time I’ve used them and they had the 40T’s at a great price, answered my email promptly, and shipped super fast. I actually ordered some cells from IMR two days before and I got my 40T’s 2 days before my IMR order. 4 days faster shipping from 18650 than IMR. Just wanted to put that out because I wasn’t familiar with them and was super happy with their service.
     
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  3. Zaryk

    Zaryk Ultra Member Verified Member

    Jan 25, 2018
    Ohio
    I also had a great experience buying these cells from 18650batterystore. Super fast shipping, and great prices. I will be ordering from them a lot more often.

    I run the 40Ts in mechs (around 13a draw) and a regulated mod (45-50w) and they are great. Best battery I own.

    Thanks mooch for keeping us up to date on these cells.
     
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