Best gourmet ejuice vendors #2 - The journey continues!

[chanelvaps]

I've tried both MBYC and Deviant, and bought more of each! Deviant is amazing. Best cherry cobbler/vanilla ice cream I ever tasted. Wish Ahl made cherry this good.

OM gee ordering some fer sure now!

 

[chanelvaps]

OM gee ordering some fer sure now!

Mia have you had Afternoon Delight? How about Vapebook F5? Wondering how both of these compare to MYBC

 

[Mia11]

Have had Afternoon Delight, and it's really good. I bought it twice so far. You just reminded me, I haven't vaped it in a while! I'll dig it out and do a little comparison as soon as I polish off this little bit of Chronos here. So many good ones!

Haven't tried any Vapebook stuff, though.

 

[chanelvaps]

Going through some of my old stuff and Chronos is still mighty good, Pencil though, has lost all taste.

 

[Mia11]

OK, Afternoon Delight is so delish it gave me a shiver. I forgot how good this is! It's very rich and butterscotchy, more like Butter Bob than MBYC. I love BB, but I prefer AD to Butter Bob, so if you like BB, I really think you will like AD a lot. It's more flavorful and complex, definitely worth a try.

MBYC (By the way, do not ever try to find out the meaning of this. You don't want to know, believe me.)
It's different and I like it in a different way from AD. The praline gives a lighter, nuttier flavor and it's not as sweet, either. It's creamy and delicious and delicate. I'm really impressed how Sicboy gets the nuances of ice cream so perfectly. I really love MBYC, but I wouldn't compare it to AD. They are just too different to me, but I love them both.

I really think you would like AD, and I'm pretty sure you'd also like Deviant!
Keep in mind though, I am the one who does backflips for Dolce Miele Crema, so I do like my sweets.

 

[clnire]

I agree about Afternoon Delight and MBYC. Both delicious in their own way. Very different, very good. 2 I will keep on hand. Not ADV, cuz I don't have one of those, but I could certainly empty a tank in short order of either.

 

[sedge]

So I'm such a geek, but since Atty Lube is a British company and their juices are fashioned after two classic British dishes, Posset and Syllabub, I decided to research some recipes and, since I have all ingredients on hand, I think I'll give them a whirl. They sound wonderful and look delicious.

Gordon Ramsey Lemon Posset Recipe - Food.com

Amaretto Syllabub Recipe : Nigella Lawson : Food Network

 

[jazzvaper]

So I'm such a geek, but since Atty Lube is a British company and their juices are fashioned after two classic British dishes, Posset and Syllabub, I decided to research some recipes and, since I have all ingredients on hand, I think I'll give them a whirl. They sound wonderful and look delicious.

Gordon Ramsey Lemon Posset Recipe - Food.com

Amaretto Syllabub Recipe : Nigella Lawson : Food Network

Hey Sedge:

As a custard fan I was intrigued by Atty Lub's juices. Watched the interview/presentation, in realtime, of Andy on PoH and was turned off by the attitude (paraphrase) 'Yes, our liquids contain compounds some believe risky...I don't mind the risk...use at your own discretion'. The interview begins at about one hour from the start:

 

[sedge]

Dicetyls. Present in custards. Seems like a reasonable statement as do many other vendors on their websites.

 

[AnthonyB]

AnthonyB, as always I enjoy reading your informative Posts. This time it is my turn to respond while on a Train [emoji3]

Your post made me slightly sad. Sad that you closed the book on HHV, and sad that I did not get to experience them in their very on years. You could say that I am an in betweener by looking at my banner with HHV.

I am still very smitten with HHV juices.. You have also listed many of my favorites. I am hoping that I did not imply they need a 6 Month Steep. This is what I am doing by transferring them to Glass Bottles.

I am also sad that I am prepared to stand alone in this Thread with my HHV juice in hand.

They are good enough for me but I liked your comments anyways.


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Gosh now I feel a little remorseful. I know the feeling.

Maybe, as an outside chance, I just got 3 bad batches or my taste buds changed?

I would rather believe that than for the truth to be complacency, cost cutting and a loss of organizational vision being behind the changes.


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[AnthonyB]

Excellent post !

Often times vapers taste and preferences change, and no two people taste something exactly the same way. As we can see by how Anthony, Skeebo, Angie and Anthony who either don't care for HHV any more or never did to begin with, have very different reasons. Anthony thinks the non-tobacco flavorings are weaker than they used to be and others think there is too much. No one is right or wrong.

I haven't noticed a drastic change in the two years i've been vaping HHV but that's just me and my opinion is no more or less valid than anyone elses. When i'm in the mood, i still enjoy HHV juices tremendously although my favorites have changed over time and i'm not convinced it's because the juices have changed drastically ( but i could be wrong ! ).

I enjoy reading this thread because i enjoy reading different points of view, not because i expect to find my favorite juices ( although i have found a few ). TPR, Nicoticket and Ahlusion are some of the favorite vendors on this thread and i happen to only like Ahl from the bunch ( and only their teas really and a couple of their " tobaccos". And that's perfectly fine. But I had been buying MOV tobacco's for a long time and it wasn't
until Chanel recommended their other juices that i even tried them and now they are one of my favs. There are other juices i tried based on recommendations here that worked as well ( Alboroya from SDV comes to mind ).

Actually Maz it was 3 years ago i had amazing experiences with HHV and about 1.5 to 2 years ago they started to change. Probably about 6 months after the NET underwent name changes. Legend used to be called Gandalf.

Those NETs are what made HHV famous. Legend was a game changer liquid.

Not to disrespect your post because I agree so much that juices really are subjective, but some things do actually change in the physical world, quite independent from our subjective senses.

I'd put a wager HHV has changed their recipes or the amount of flavoring they put in their NET juices.

There is a minor possibility that my taste buds have changed but I've not had such a drastic change of taste perception with other juices. I also maintain that some of the non-net juices haven't changed that much.

In the end if someone enjoys a juice or any vaping product then it doesn't matter what someone else thinks. Someone else's opinion won't have any bearing on their satisfaction.

If someone still loves HHV NETs I wish them good luck because I wish I could be back there when I was enjoying their liquids so much.


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[chanelvaps]

Gordon Ramsey Lemon Posset Recipe - Food.com

Sedge this is really just Lemon Cream and so I have to ask, have you tried Ahlusion's Lemon Cream? Divine and because of this I learned to sing opera..........

 

[AngiBe]

Not sure what exactly was wrong with me and HHV (besides an overwhelming, sweet honey taste in them ALL). If it was Cavendish as the base (which normally, I enjoy a cavendish taste) then their Canvendish is heavy on the honey. I let them all steep over 3 months, if it needed longer, I don't see how they would morph to something wonderful since they all tasted relatively the same.

GoodeJuice had more of a richer, deep taste to me. But..I've been desperately trying to dwindled down my stash so my mail box has been collecting rust. Oh, except for other random bills.

 

[chanelvaps]

I forgot how good this is! It's very rich and butterscotchy, more like Butter Bob than MBYC. I love BB, but I prefer AD to Butter Bob, so if you like BB, I really think you will like AD a lot

Funny because I have been mixing Butter Bob and MYBC

MBYC (By the way, do not ever try to find out the meaning of this. You don't want to know, believe me.)

OH NO! Now I will not rest until I find out

Keep in mind though, I am the one who does backflips for Dolce Miele Crema, so I do like my sweets.

I have 3/4 bottle of this, well steeped. 6mg, me no likey ..pm me if you want

 

[chanelvaps]

I'd put a wager HHV has changed their recipes or the amount of flavoring they put in their NET juices.

There is a minor possibility that my taste buds have changed but I've not had such a drastic change of taste perception with other juices. I also maintain that some of the non-net juices haven't changed that much.

I have heard, and I do not know how true it is, that cold extraction of tobacco (takes weeks) brings out a lot more of the nuances than heat extraction. Maybe they changed from cold to heat in the interest of their business growing? I am way out of my league with all of this but as I am reading this did occur to me

 

[sedge]

Sedge this is really just Lemon Cream and so I have to ask, have you tried Ahlusion's Lemon Cream? Divine and because of this I learned to sing opera..........

I have and really like Ahlusion Lemon Cream. The Orange too. Not so much the Lime Cream.

 

[chanelvaps]

MBYC (By the way, do not ever try to find out the meaning of this. You don't want to know, believe me.)

I am coming up with My Buskers Club (from their Instagram)

mybuskersclub
malaysian buskers club

 

[YePsTeR]

OK, Afternoon Delight is so delish it gave me a shiver. I forgot how good this is! It's very rich and butterscotchy, more like Butter Bob than MBYC. I love BB, but I prefer AD to Butter Bob, so if you like BB, I really think you will like AD a lot. It's more flavorful and complex, definitely worth a try.

MBYC (By the way, do not ever try to find out the meaning of this. You don't want to know, believe me.)
It's different and I like it in a different way from AD. The praline gives a lighter, nuttier flavor and it's not as sweet, either. It's creamy and delicious and delicate. I'm really impressed how Sicboy gets the nuances of ice cream so perfectly. I really love MBYC, but I wouldn't compare it to AD. They are just too different to me, but I love them both.

I really think you would like AD, and I'm pretty sure you'd also like Deviant!
Keep in mind though, I am the one who does backflips for Dolce Miele Crema, so I do like my sweets.

We want to know??????

 

[DebbieNY]

Too many HHV posts to quote and I'm too lazy to go get 'em...

About 2 years ago, I had sampled quite a few of their flavors, with Carnival (caramel apple - I'm a caramel addict) being one of my favorites, but it needed a little more 'umph' in the background for me. I later discovered that they had a Caramel Apple Tobacco... And I loved it, score! Came back to it months later and the caramel-apple component had faded completely. I ordered a bottle of Carnival to add to it to kick the 'flavor' component back up a notch and, on it's own, the flavor was barely present in a Nautlilus. IMO, the Nautilus had proved to be a huge clearo improvement for me over the CE4's that I'd used with HHV's flavors in the past, so... What the ____???? I've put both bottles away and haven't come back to either of them again. Maybe the newer Carnival bottle got better since then, but I've been reluctant to try.

 

[Mazinny]

Actually Maz it was 3 years ago i had amazing experiences with HHV and about 1.5 to 2 years ago they started to change. Probably about 6 months after the NET underwent name changes. Legend used to be called Gandalf.

Those NETs are what made HHV famous. Legend was a game changer liquid.

Not to disrespect your post because I agree so much that juices really are subjective, but some things do actually change in the physical world, quite independent from our subjective senses.

I'd put a wager HHV has changed their recipes or the amount of flavoring they put in their NET juices.

There is a minor possibility that my taste buds have changed but I've not had such a drastic change of taste perception with other juices. I also maintain that some of the non-net juices haven't changed that much.

In the end if someone enjoys a juice or any vaping product then it doesn't matter what someone else thinks. Someone else's opinion won't have any bearing on their satisfaction.

If someone still loves HHV NETs I wish them good luck because I wish I could be back there when I was enjoying their liquids so much.


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I don't feel you are " disrespecting " my post at all Anthony. I enjoy your posts and while i don't always agree with your opinions on juice and especially your historical revisionist theories , i always feel they are good reads.

I can't really speak as to how HHV juices tasted 3 years ago. What i can say is that i don't feel they all taste rather the same now, whether it's as you suspect because they all have the same cavendish base and they have altered the amount ( or source ) of their flavorings, or as a couple of others believe, almost the opposite ( too much unpleasant flavoring masking the tobacco ).

I do find it unlikely that a successful vendor with a proven formula would suddenly decide to change the flavoring (I actually believe i have read that HHV claim that most of their NETs actually have no added flavoring ), or ratios of all their NETs though. I think it's more likely ( but not definite ) that some vapers memories of what a juice used to taste like are not accurate and their taste buds and preferences have changed. It has certainly happened to me with some juices including NETs and non-NETs.

I also don't believe that all HHV juices have a Cavendish base. Dark Horse and Gaia for example don't taste like any cavendish i have tried. What i can say is i suspect that HHV's juices are not macerated NETs in the sense that MOV, N.E.T. , MVJ etc.... are. And i don't believe in the steam-distilled explanation either as was proved incorrect with Ahlusion. In fact i wouldn't be surprised if they have a significant non-NET component as well. HHV have always been a little secretive about their process.

And it's no big deal that you don't love their juices as much. You have found others, so it's all good. I just though you made too much of a definitive statement of fact with a very limited sample size, on a topic that is inherently unsuited to objective determinations.