Just want to clarify that i have tried almost exclusively rich dessert like flavors from these two vendors and i don't like these types of flavors from any vendor so my opinion is by no means reflective of what i think as to the quality of these juices. The exchange between Sedge and JazzVapor re diketones in Atty Lube juices made me think that it's probably the taste and feel of acetyl propyniol is what turns me off to a lot of dessert vapes more so than the sweetness.
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Need help from former MFS (MyFreedomSmokes) customers
Has any found a supplier or company that has tobacco e-juice like or very similar to MFS Turbosmog, Tall Paul, or Red Luck?
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Just want to clarify that i have tried almost exclusively rich dessert like flavors from these two vendors and i don't like these types of flavors from any vendor so my opinion is by no means reflective of what i think as to the quality of these juices. The exchange between Sedge and JazzVapor re diketones in Atty Lube juices made me think that it's probably the taste and feel of acetyl propyniol is what turns me off to a lot of dessert vapes more so than the sweetness.
OK Nanny22 it is your turn.
Checking my Memory and the Calendar, the Nicoticket BOGO occurs tomorrow - Is this correct and at what time?
I was not prepared for the first BOGO so I wish for it to be a tad different if this does occur tomorrow.
This afternoon I will be loading a Tank of some ACB that has been steeping since February to see if I desire to load up any more on hand.
Virus is a given even though I have sufficient quantity on hand (I never tire of this one).
Radioactive is a question since I have two large on hand.
Any recs even if we buy 15 ML's for us NT newbies.
Hopefully this Post does not bring out too many NT Haters
Checking my Memory and the Calendar, the Nicoticket BOGO occurs tomorrow - Is this correct and at what time?
I was not prepared for the first BOGO so I wish for it to be a tad different if this does occur tomorrow.
This afternoon I will be loading a Tank of some ACB that has been steeping since February to see if I desire to load up any more on hand.
Virus is a given even though I have sufficient quantity on hand (I never tire of this one).
Radioactive is a question since I have two large on hand.
Any recs even if we buy 15 ML's for us NT newbies.
Hopefully this Post does not bring out too many NT Haters
I think someone was looking for a yoghurt juice, i hear this is good Amethyst by Praxis Potions | eLiquid.com
Hey DJ! AH, haters be danged -- the important thing is that everyone just vapes what THEY like and accomplishes what they set out to do. However you do it, whatever you do it with, pleasing no one but yourself! There's no time for criticizing another person's equipment or taste buds because they are "different" from your own.
So YES, the 2 year anniversary sale starts at midnight tonight, Omaha time. It runs for 24 hours with 50% off your order using the coupon code "CELEBRATE". There will be an email blast I am sure giving everyone on the newsletter list the code and times.
There is a new NET called "Strike" that will debut with the sale. It is a BETA, so only available in 60 ML bottles at 3MG. There's also a fairly new PassionFruit Cheesecake called "PassionCake" that I like very much and will be ordering in volume! I vaped up my initial bottle right away and have been waiting for the sale to reload. Nothing else brand new is coming to mind right now. And anyone who has not used their one time code "BOGO" can order up on this sale and then go big with the ones they like using "BOGO" later for another 50% off.
So YES, the 2 year anniversary sale starts at midnight tonight, Omaha time. It runs for 24 hours with 50% off your order using the coupon code "CELEBRATE". There will be an email blast I am sure giving everyone on the newsletter list the code and times.
There is a new NET called "Strike" that will debut with the sale. It is a BETA, so only available in 60 ML bottles at 3MG. There's also a fairly new PassionFruit Cheesecake called "PassionCake" that I like very much and will be ordering in volume! I vaped up my initial bottle right away and have been waiting for the sale to reload. Nothing else brand new is coming to mind right now. And anyone who has not used their one time code "BOGO" can order up on this sale and then go big with the ones they like using "BOGO" later for another 50% off.
Funny because I have been mixing Butter Bob and MYBC
OH NO! Now I will not rest until I find out
I have 3/4 bottle of this, well steeped. 6mg, me no likey ..pm me if you want
Maybe not such a great idea
I started running through some scenarios of what the acronym could stand for and then as soon as I thought I got close I abandoned wanting to know. Lol
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My understanding (vague at best) is that the flavorings were added post maceration of the liquids, which is why fresh out of box they didn't have much flavor. The flavors needed time and a good shake occasionally to properly permeate the juice. A few years ago, the juices would go from having little taste to transforming into a flavor punch in about 3 weeks. The transformation was quite spectacular.
Maybe they add the flavorings at the start now rather than post maceration and prior to shipment?
In my discussions with HHV in the last 6 months., i gathered that HHV outsource the production of their flavorings and have little overall control of how those flavorings are processed. HHV merely get them from a secondary source and mix them with their liquids. It might be the case that they outsource the whole production of the NET and flavoring and simply mix them in unflavored juice at headquarters.
When I asked them about the strength of flavour I was told they can only add more extract and not more flavoring.
I'm a little confused by it but there is definitely a separation of processing and an outsourcing element nowadays.
Whether HHV always outsourced the production of their flavorings or if going from making them in house to outsourcing them, is something I don't know but it's possible a change in production might be what has altered the flavor profile of the juice.
I don't think, in my opinion, that heat extraction would diminish the added flavorings unless those flavors are added in the maceration at the beginning. Many NET vendors make good and flavorsome hybrid NET/flavor infusion liquids.
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I don't feel you are " disrespecting " my post at all Anthony. I enjoy your posts and while i don't always agree with your opinions on juice and especially your historical revisionist theories
I can't really speak as to how HHV juices tasted 3 years ago. What i can say is that i don't feel they all taste rather the same now, whether it's as you suspect because they all have the same cavendish base and they have altered the amount ( or source ) of their flavorings, or as a couple of others believe, almost the opposite ( too much unpleasant flavoring masking the tobacco ).
I do find it unlikely that a successful vendor with a proven formula would suddenly decide to change the flavoring (I actually believe i have read that HHV claim that most of their NETs actually have no added flavoring ), or ratios of all their NETs though. I think it's more likely ( but not definite ) that some vapers memories of what a juice used to taste like are not accurate and their taste buds and preferences have changed. It has certainly happened to me with some juices including NETs and non-NETs.
I also don't believe that all HHV juices have a Cavendish base. Dark Horse and Gaia for example don't taste like any cavendish i have tried. What i can say is i suspect that HHV's juices are not macerated NETs in the sense that MOV, N.E.T. , MVJ etc.... are. And i don't believe in the steam-distilled explanation either as was proved incorrect with Ahlusion. In fact i wouldn't be surprised if they have a significant non-NET component as well. HHV have always been a little secretive about their process.
And it's no big deal that you don't love their juices as much. You have found others, so it's all good. I just though you made too much of a definitive statement of fact with a very limited sample size, on a topic that is inherently unsuited to objective determinations.
Maz one day we will sit down and discuss my revisionist theories properly and comprehensively while vaping good NETs. Deal?
I will bring evidence to back up all my 'theories cum facts' and then you can take it for what's it's worth. I don't know that any business that is successful would never change a winning business model. It does happen to all kinds of organisations in a range of industries that once they have achieved great success start to cost cut a bit and rest on the laurels of reputation. It happens right across the board.
I've worked in such businesses that had good success and found 'new and better ways' to make more profit and one such way might be to cost cut.
All kinds of variables could affect the quality of a businesses product. Cost control measures, changes in organisational structure, issues or changes in core ingredients from supplies, employee fatigue or lack of motivation.
You've never eaten in a great startup restaurant that later had food that didn't quite taste as good or the portions got smaller after they got more popular?
What can start as a passion in a small home based or boutique outlet can turn into a larger decentralised business structure that becomes more about profit and less about the original passion.
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When you look at the description Coffee is mentioned but it is not like Wakonda. It is truly remarkable how this juice changes like a Chameleon. I consider it a Desert versus a Tobacco but it is my favorite NT flavor. I will be grabbing some Wakonda also tomorrow.
I buy from giant vapes and i find everything they buy amazing!! I've bought like all of space jam through there and they have all been amazing.
A desert huh? Hot sand and snakes with tobacco doesn't sound too good, but maybe that's just me
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Nice on the bolded Nanny22.
You were not kidding on the Absolut Creme Brulee - Steeped. This is the Bomb from Nicoticket. Unfortunately, the Strike is a Strike Out with me since it is 20 PG / 80 VG
Band Camp the Apple one looks interesting.
Glad you like the ACB steeped, DJ. The description for Strike was posted right after my earlier post - when I saw 80% VG I felt bad for you, and a few others. But happy for Thundernoggin and my other VG loving friends. Maybe the next one for you - there are some other new juices coming soon.
Nice on the bolded Nanny22.
You were not kidding on the Absolut Creme Brulee - Steeped. This is the Bomb from Nicoticket. Unfortunately, the Strike is a Strike Out with me since it is 20 PG / 80 VG
Band Camp the Apple one looks interesting.
I'd save my money on band camp if I were you. I actually may have some I could send but I'd have to look. Steeped ACB is the bomb though!
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