Best setup for maximum 200 bucks?

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Xromill

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Hi folks!:2cool:

I was wondering, what is the best possible setup i can get for 200 dollars? When I'm looking for ecigs my priorities are how much vapor it's producing, and the taste! Do you have some good tips/tricks? I really like the iTaste MVP and such.. Are the VAMO good?

Witch cartomizers would you recommend? And people say that i should know about all safety about coils before i start using them. What can be dangerous with coils? I would really like the extreme amount of vapour and that extreme throut hit!

Do you know how low ohms the iTaste can withstand? And can cartomizers produce approximately as much vapour as the coils? And is it just to drip some e-juice into the carto and your ready to go?

Thank you so much for answering!
 

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I was wondering, what is the best possible setup i can get for 200 dollars?

Too many to name, in every shape and size, APV and mechanical, rebuildable and top-of-the-line.

When I'm looking for ecigs my priorities are how much vapor it's producing, and the taste! Do you have some good tips/tricks?

For vapor and taste, you really can't beat a good RDA with proper coils. This requires some knowledge of Ohm's Law and battery safety. I'm sure Baditude will be by any moment with those sweet resource links. You'll also want to learn how to wrap your own micro coils. Check out this thread.

I really like the iTaste MVP and such.. Are the VAMO good?

Sure, VAMO is good... great even. But for the most part you aren't going to get any huge difference in performance vs. the MVP. An APV is an APV. Small things differ: form factor, battery capacity, maximum wattage, maximum voltage, whether or not it has VV/VW, and general build quality. If you're happy with your MVP, and aren't in great need of a quality back-up, I see no reason to suggest buying another mod.

Witch cartomizers would you recommend?

I've been told these are some of the better cartomizers you can get. They are almost always out-of-stock, though, so the evidence does seem to support that theory. I've yet to try some, because I'm just not that big of a carto guy.

And people say that i should know about all safety about coils before i start using them. What can be dangerous with coils? I would really like the extreme amount of vapour and that extreme throut hit!

Building your own coils is definitely the best way to get what you want. I highly suggest you pick up a decent RDA like the Igo-W and watch videos of people installing coils to see how it works.

The safety comes here: If you build a coil that is sub ohm, < 1.0Ω you run the risk of trying to power said coil on a battery that cannot put out enough amperes to do this safely. You want good, high drain AW IMRs that can put out between 10 and 30 amps if you plan on making sub ohm. I do not recommend you try this. It's so very dangerous you can possibly cause your battery to go into thermal expansion, and it will explode.

But you don't need sub ohm coils to get a good RBA experience. Micro coils will generate very very similar results and you can build these in standard resistance of 1.2 - 3.0Ω+.

Do you know how low ohms the iTaste can withstand?

No APVs will fire any coil under 1.2Ω

And can cartomizers produce approximately as much vapour as the coils? And is it just to drip some e-juice into the carto and your ready to go?

No clue! It depends what cartomizer you are comparing against what coil :evil: I find that cartomizers put out mild vapor and mild flavor, but they are consistent and easy to use. It's very much a "fill and vape" device, quite like a tank, but a little different. Then again I might not like cartos because I've never tried a good one! Just my opinion anyway.

My advice is to pick up some good rebuilding supplies and something like the Igo-W or similar RDA. Get some 28GA Kanthal and some 2mm Hollow Ekowool and head over to YouTube and the Rebuildables Sub-forum. Look at videos of people wrapping micro coils and try it yourself. You can even do dual-coils with the Igo-W. Just make sure to check your ohms with your MVP especially if you plan to fire it on a mech device.

Sorry I realize I haven't mentioned some nice expensive devices that will guarantee some sort of magical vape... I don't even know if they exist. OKC Vapes does build some good coils and will pre-install them in anything you order, they also have some dang expensive RBAs and mods. My advice is to go cheap, learn to build a micro coil, and save your money for much-needed juice.

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Vape well, vape often:vapor:
 
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No APVs will fire any coil under 1.2Ω

although i do agree with your suggestions to the OP, this i dont know is entirely true. i had an itaste and it will fire my kayfun all the way down to .6Ω(havent tried any lower) and my nephews evic will fire his igo which is probably running lower or about the same as that. but even when cranked to full power the coil wouldnt heat up nearly as fast as it does on a mech mod(no restriction)

enoch pretty much hit the nail on the head. with the amount of money you are looking to spend you can get a very good setup. i think at this point it really just boils down to what pleases your eye aesthetically. you are gonna get roughly the same performance from whichever avenue you decide to go mod wise at this point. get a good mod/APV,good batteries(i run aw imr), RDA, some wick and wire and some e-juice and your good. watch some vids on how to build the coils. it does get frustrating learing how to build but after a few tries its not that bad. happy vaping!
 

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Thank you so much enoch777!

In a beginner in ecigs so there's some words I didn't understand.. What's the difference between micro coils and dual coils? And what is a RDA? Is it a coil or a battery? And sorry, I didn't understand what you meant with the safety. What is sub ohm? Can you please explain it in a easier way?

Witch battery mods should I use with the igo W? Is it just okay to use a Vamo? Or is there mods made for coils?


Thank you, and sorry for my nooby questions!
 

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although i do agree with your suggestions to the OP, this i dont know is entirely true. i had an itaste and it will fire my kayfun all the way down to .6Ω(havent tried any lower) and my nephews evic will fire his igo which is probably running lower or about the same as that.

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What's the difference between micro coils and dual coils?

A micro coil is a coil (atomizer) wrapped very tightly, using low gauge wire. The idea is to get your ohms to standard resistance but with a large area of heating surface, as opposed to sub-ohm where you are putting a massive amount of wattage into a single coil, thereby creating higher intensity heat. That's the jist of it anyway. Both setups result in increased vapor production as well as fantastic flavor. Sub ohm is dangerous. Micro coils are not.

EDIT: I read that wrong. There's no difference between micro and dual coils. You can even build dual micro coils. Here's a video of someone building dual coils: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO7b_6e5ZYw

Dual coils = two coils. Two coils = more vapor.

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^^^ Picture of a micro-coil.

And what is a RDA? Is it a coil or a battery? And sorry, I didn't understand what you meant with the safety. What is sub ohm? Can you please explain it in a easier way?

RDA = Re-buildable dripping atomizer. The Igo-W is an example of a quality RDA. And as I mentioned above, sub-ohm is an effort to increase vapor and flavor production by wrapping coils that are dangerously low ohm (so they get hotter).


Witch battery mods should I use with the igo W? Is it just okay to use a Vamo? Or is there mods made for coils?

You can use any 510 threaded mod. Vamo works. MVP works. Most things work with 510 connection. There's no necessity you need to purchase aside from having a mod with a 510 connection, which you already do.

I do apologize for all the confusing stuff. I recommend you watch some of GrimmGreen's videos. He's very informative and you will quickly pick up what these things are. That being said, perhaps it would be easier for you to get a tank device if you don't think you're ready to jump into wrapping your own coils yet. It's not that hard, but it does take some knowledge and patience.

What devices have you used in the past? How did they work for you? Maybe we can make a suggestion for you to get something that's ready to use out of the box, as opposed to all this techno-jargon filled world of rebuildables. (They really do work great, though!)
 
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No APVs will fire any coil under 1.2Ω

Huh.....

Anyways,

IGO-W is a good starting point for rebuildables.... super easy to work on, and nice and low to drip into... and cheap too.

I didn't think I would at first, but I really like the form factor of a box mod (like mvp or itaste vtr (its heavy though)) so you might want to think of one of those for your go everywhere all day vape... nice thing about the VTR is that the atomizer doesn't stick out so it's truly just a box, and it's a tank, so I can chuck it anywhere and not worry, although its heavy as crap... wish they had a mvp style box mod with the atomizer built in like the vtr, that would be a perfect system.
 

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Hi folks!:2cool:

I was wondering, what is the best possible setup i can get for 200 dollars? When I'm looking for ecigs my priorities are how much vapor it's producing, and the taste! Do you have some good tips/tricks? I really like the iTaste MVP and such.. Are the VAMO good?

Witch cartomizers would you recommend? And people say that i should know about all safety about coils before i start using them. What can be dangerous with coils? I would really like the extreme amount of vapour and that extreme throut hit!

Do you know how low ohms the iTaste can withstand? And can cartomizers produce approximately as much vapour as the coils? And is it just to drip some e-juice into the carto and your ready to go?

Thank you so much for answering!

REO grand/rm2 www.reosmods.com

Best vape ever. You can use cartomizers if you'd like, but the reomizer 2.0 is a rebuildable so you can change the vape to your preference. It's a bottom feeder which means there is a 6ml bottle you squeeze, or 'squonk' in the vernacular, and it is fed up into the Atty of choice. Will come in right under $200. Easiest, Best, most hassle free vape.

Edit: oh, and the thing is built like a friggin tank.

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Huh.....

Anyways,

*shrug* Mine doesn't. I know the other popular ones don't. Bigmaaark says the iTaste will fire .6 ohm, but it doesn't work very well. Really. If you're re-building and plan to use it on an APV, shoot for 1.2 or above. Cause it either won't fire at all, or it won't work good anyway.

Unless you have some enlightenment to share, that's my experience and exactly what everyone else I've spoken with has said.



Thank you so much! Is a micro coil safe? Can you build a micro coil with a igo w?

How much wattage should I use on a igo w with a micro coil? Thanks

Yes micro coils are safe. Usually 1.2 to 1.8 ohms. That's considered "standard" resistance and perfectly safe on all PVs. You can definitely build a micro coil on an Igo-W, or any RDA for that matter. I think you're thinking you need some special equipment to do special things, but the truth is that any "Rebuildable" can accept a micro coil, or a sub-ohm coil, or a dual-coil if there are enough posts.

The wattage you want to fire it at should be determined if and when you have that. Adjust wattage until it feels right, tastes right, etc... Probably around 8 to 10 watts for most applications, but that may not be the case for you. You might like your juice, in that setup, at 6 watts, or 11 watts. Just depends :)

Xromill - what are you currently using? Maybe we can suggest something easier for you than rebuildables. My bad for jumping there straight away. It's not a beginner way to go, but if you're determined to try it, look no further than Rebuildables Sub-forum and the many YouTube guides showing how it's done, as well as reviewing the RDA/RBAs you might want to get.

But if you let us know what you're already using, we can figure out something that's better than that and easier than an RDA to use.
 
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bertfelin

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cartomizer sucks IMO. get a BCC tank like Kanger Protank II or a Atty Tank.
however, i found the sweet spot on my VAMO with Kanger Proank II is voltage setting at 3.8v
but a Atty tank need at least 5.0v
to rebuild coil on Kanger Protank II is very easy as i use XC-116 and 30 kanthal A-1, won't take more than 5 mins.

PS: I am getting a EVIC pretty soon :D
 

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With a $200 budget, you have a LOT of flexibility and options.

One suggestion that I would make is that you go for redundancy. In other words, get two reliable mods (VV/VW if that is your thing), an adequate number of batteries, a decent charger, multiple heads/tanks that suit your taste and allow you to rotate between different liquids, and spare wicks, coils, cartos, etc. (depending on your preferred atomizer).

By having two mods (and decent/reliable ones can be purchased for way under $100/per) you will be able to not only get a satisfying vape experience, but you would also be prepared for if/when a mod goes belly up.

Having a backup device, multiple heads, and multiple batteries means that you would be far more capable of dealing with a outage without any interruption.
 

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Save some time , money and frustration and get yourself a REO and RM2 combo , the only regret you will have is that you didn't do it sooner

I somewhat dislike being "that guy" telling everyone to get a REO, but your comment is sooooo incredibly true. My eyes were opened and there's no looking back.

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"cartos suck" and "Protanks suck" comments are not helpful. Everyone's mileage varies here, based on taste and personal preference.

On a budget of $200, I would recommend a ProVari, a pair of batteries, a charger and a decent bottom coil clearo like the Protank II that comes in their kit. However, that gives you no backup capability unless you already have a decent advanced mod already in hand.

Two Vamos, four good 18650 batteries, a good charger and a pair of good atomizers would set you back about $200, depending on your shopping-fu and perhaps your willingness to wait on that slow boat from FastTech.

It all depends on what you want the device(s) to do, the features they offer and your personal taste. Please ignore the "______ sucks!" comments and find out what works in your hand, to your satisfaction.
 
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