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Need help from former MFS (MyFreedomSmokes) customers
Has any found a supplier or company that has tobacco e-juice like or very similar to MFS Turbosmog, Tall Paul, or Red Luck?
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Best tobacco for flavor extraction
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If infusing flavor into a tobacco that way, I'd suggest taking a 3/1 approach. Take three sips then one splash for the tobacco, continue this process until one or the other is well saturated.
Seriously though, I wonder if you could just use a blended solvent for the extraction process, 75% ethanol (PGA), and 25% rum or whisky of your choice or something like that? Perhaps a 50/50 blend of PG and rum (or whiskey) for the solvent and once the extraction was complete evaporate the alcohol off leaving a concentrated PG based extract? Just some thoughts.
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I figured the "flavoring" on most aromatic tobaccos may come through during combustion, but less so in vape form. I've tried a couple of aromatics which were laced with certain flavors:
Bourbon - Moonshine XXX Blend
Fruit/Coconut - C&D Bob Bushman
Fruit/Vanilla - PS 31 Optimum
While all of these are quality tobacco blends which I might purchase again, the casings on these blends just didn't come through in the end.
I've also tried soaking the tobacco (straight Virginia) in whiskey (Bushmills Black Bush) during the maceration process; none of the whiskey flavor made it through in vape form.
I have a batch of Sutliff Sunset Rum (vanilla/rum) about to be filtered; hopes aren't high concerning the rum. Glad I found Inawera Rum and Shisha Vanilla a long time ago; they have served me well so far.
My last shopping event had a few aromatics on the list; looks like my hybrid NET skills will be tested.
Bourbon - Moonshine XXX Blend
Fruit/Coconut - C&D Bob Bushman
Fruit/Vanilla - PS 31 Optimum
While all of these are quality tobacco blends which I might purchase again, the casings on these blends just didn't come through in the end.
I've also tried soaking the tobacco (straight Virginia) in whiskey (Bushmills Black Bush) during the maceration process; none of the whiskey flavor made it through in vape form.
I have a batch of Sutliff Sunset Rum (vanilla/rum) about to be filtered; hopes aren't high concerning the rum. Glad I found Inawera Rum and Shisha Vanilla a long time ago; they have served me well so far.
My last shopping event had a few aromatics on the list; looks like my hybrid NET skills will be tested.
Looks like you're going to be busy.
Informative post, I think that pretty much closes the loop on infusing whisky flavor into tobacco. Good thing there's still a wide variety of concentrated synthetics available for those desiring that flavor nuance.
The G&H Black Twist on you list of tobaccos makes some bold NET.
I'm excited to get it in a jar; bold is good. However, what peaked my interest a bit were the casings associated with this tobacco:
"Gawith, Hoggarth & Co. Sliced Black Twist is similar to the Black Irish X except for the addition of traditional English flavors such as licorice, maple and exotic Tonquin."
I'm hoping those flavors make it through, but if they don't, I have the synthetic concentrates standing by.
In my experience as a piper, alcohol found in booze is a good sanitary method to rehydrate tobacco and offers a smidgen in the way of flavor. I'd taken to using good hooch to rehydrate tobacco that had dried out beyond my preference, rather than say water, apple slice, orange wedge, etc. The alcohol evaporates and the distilled water remainder does the rest. IMO it will tend to mellow some pipe blends.
anecdote: A number of years ago, accompanying my shopping wife to the nearby college town, a hub of quirky main street shops, I wandered off and into what was essentially an old school head shop, an eclectic mix of crap: incense, tie-dye, blown glass, trinkets, etc, but they did have RYO supplies and some jarred tobacco. Perusing their wares I spotted a couple of dusty apothecary jars on a back shelf that looked suspiciously like rope tobacco. Further inspection confirmed that, original Gawith & Hoggarth labels placed in the jar bottoms, about 1/4 lb of black irish x rope and 1/2 lb. of brown irish x, both dry as a chip. Chatting with the clerk, a lovely aging female hippy who turned out to be the owner, I suggested I buy this old nasty stuff and get it out of her way. She agreed, that it had been around forever and said take it all for a dollar an oz.
These ropes are amazingly resilient, I know why the sailors of yore favored them, they are very enduring. I revived the samples purchased slowly over a couple of days with a few drops here and there of Booker's bourbon I happened to have nearby ;-) and they roared back to life albeit pleasantly mellowed when compared to their fresher brethren from the tin, no doubt through happenstance aging but I also got the slightest hint of the Bookers alongside.
Some pipers love the scented Lakeland style of tobaccos, others despise them for their flavor profiles, often lamenting how they will 'ghost' a pipe. I'm of the former mind but did tend to dedicate pipes to certain blends. For years I was convinced the venerated UK tobacco blenders of the distinctive Lakeland varieties were using essential oils in their blends to achieve those lasting flavors, of such things as geranium, rose, vanilla, musk, heliotropin, liquorice root, tonquin bean and so on. They were used but not as oils. My error was disabused by an interview I read a few years later with G.L. Pease, the American tobacco blender I had come to respect and to whose expertise and success as a blender I defer.
How any of these ramblings may play out in the context of the current discussion is yet to be seen, by me at least. I would like to thank everyone here for reinvigorating my interest in all this. I've been going over my cellar list and am patiently eager to see what will come of the likes of Bosun Cut Plug, Conniston Plug or Kendall Dark in terms of making NETs.
anecdote: A number of years ago, accompanying my shopping wife to the nearby college town, a hub of quirky main street shops, I wandered off and into what was essentially an old school head shop, an eclectic mix of crap: incense, tie-dye, blown glass, trinkets, etc, but they did have RYO supplies and some jarred tobacco. Perusing their wares I spotted a couple of dusty apothecary jars on a back shelf that looked suspiciously like rope tobacco. Further inspection confirmed that, original Gawith & Hoggarth labels placed in the jar bottoms, about 1/4 lb of black irish x rope and 1/2 lb. of brown irish x, both dry as a chip. Chatting with the clerk, a lovely aging female hippy who turned out to be the owner, I suggested I buy this old nasty stuff and get it out of her way. She agreed, that it had been around forever and said take it all for a dollar an oz.
These ropes are amazingly resilient, I know why the sailors of yore favored them, they are very enduring. I revived the samples purchased slowly over a couple of days with a few drops here and there of Booker's bourbon I happened to have nearby ;-) and they roared back to life albeit pleasantly mellowed when compared to their fresher brethren from the tin, no doubt through happenstance aging but I also got the slightest hint of the Bookers alongside.
Some pipers love the scented Lakeland style of tobaccos, others despise them for their flavor profiles, often lamenting how they will 'ghost' a pipe. I'm of the former mind but did tend to dedicate pipes to certain blends. For years I was convinced the venerated UK tobacco blenders of the distinctive Lakeland varieties were using essential oils in their blends to achieve those lasting flavors, of such things as geranium, rose, vanilla, musk, heliotropin, liquorice root, tonquin bean and so on. They were used but not as oils. My error was disabused by an interview I read a few years later with G.L. Pease, the American tobacco blender I had come to respect and to whose expertise and success as a blender I defer.
How any of these ramblings may play out in the context of the current discussion is yet to be seen, by me at least. I would like to thank everyone here for reinvigorating my interest in all this. I've been going over my cellar list and am patiently eager to see what will come of the likes of Bosun Cut Plug, Conniston Plug or Kendall Dark in terms of making NETs.
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I have to hand it to pipesandcigars.com, good folks there and it pays to shop there as well. Just received a $20, no strings attached, coupon code from P&C in an email. I paid shipping, but basically got 9 ounces of tobacco for free; allowed me to pick up some of the tobaccos which have been on a wish list for a while now.
Time for some jar shopping.
Time for some jar shopping.
A review of Dunhill blend royal yacht in pipe forums, tastes akin to Gauloise cigs, has any member tried as extraction, only been trying forever to get the gauloise taste without success.
I've read the same thing in forums about the D&R Ryback regular; soon, I'll find out.
http://www.pipesandcigars.com/mobile/pipe-tobacco/72691/daughters-ryan-ryback-tins-bags-bulk/
I enjoyed the French cig sampler trio from net.com very much and wish to create my own blend.
French-Cig Sampler Pack -Glass
Hopefully some of the burley and dark fire Kentucky choices I made on my last purchase will get me close.
It's certainly a tricky one to get right, lost count on the loose leaf's I've tried,will give the Royal Yacht ago, hopefully your Ryback nails it, in the meantime will keep a watchful eye on your posts, you never know we might get there
I tried my best to get everything I needed. However, there where a ton of "back orders" and I lost out on some tobaccos I really wanted.....
That's happened to me as well in the past. Don't worry, Xmas sales will be here before you know it! Hopefully they'll restock before then.
My next order will be through this company. Thanks for sharing that. It will payoff for them.
Hello everyone. Just thought I'd stop by and report that I have found what I consider to be another "Keeper". Scotty's Bulk Blends - Honey and Chocolate is a rich yet smooth flavor that I am truly enjoying for several weeks strait. Extracted via cold maceration (eight weeks) and the mixed e-liquid has aged for two months. Having trouble putting this one down long enough to try something else !
Hehe.... with my last order from P&C, I cracked open the box and out of nine tobaccos, ALL I could smell was the PS 314 Dark Fire Kentucky Burley; imagining that it's a tobacco to be reckoned with, percentage wise.
The FOURTH NETty AWARDS ARE UP AND VOTING IS NOW OPEN!
I had a free day and decided to finally get around to it. You have a month to vote people but don't hesitate!
In this years NETty awards you can also vote on your favourite tobacco for extraction in 3 new categories!
(If the link doesn't work please let me know)
The FOURTH (4TH) NETty Awards!!! (Naturally Extracted Tobaccos) Vote now!
I had a free day and decided to finally get around to it. You have a month to vote people but don't hesitate!
In this years NETty awards you can also vote on your favourite tobacco for extraction in 3 new categories!
(If the link doesn't work please let me know)
The FOURTH (4TH) NETty Awards!!! (Naturally Extracted Tobaccos) Vote now!
Hehe.... with my last order from P&C, I cracked open the box and out of nine tobaccos, ALL I could smell was the PS 314 Dark Fire Kentucky Burley; imagining that it's a tobacco to be reckoned with, percentage wise.
Yes, the PS "Dark Fired" yields a potent and dark flavored extract.
If a dark flavor profile suits you, you might also try C&D "Pirate Kake" or Tsuge "Ryujin".
Yes, the PS "Dark Fired" yields a potent and dark flavored extract.
Ya know, I don't mind a dark potent blend now and again; I'm vaping on some 50/50 Bengal Slices/Perique right now after a week of sweet Va/Per and/or Burley blends and it's nice to have that deep smoky bite. So, I'll be looking forward to what it will bring to a mix.
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