Better tank = Better taste?

[Ozzie_J]

Stupid question really, I know. What I'm really getting at here is, since using my new Nautilus mini I've found a HUGE difference in the flavour of some e-liquid (I've actually only used 2 different juices since I got the NM on Saturday)

I was (sort of still am) using a couple of aspire ET tanks. They are very good, at least I thought so, but I got some Manabush Chiruacua Sun a few weeks ago and it was awful in them. So sweet and sickly. Decided to give it a bash in the NM and it's like a totally different juice! I'm putting it down to the fact that a couple of weeks steeping + new NM = much much better flavour, but I'm REALLY SURPRISED at the amount of difference. Amazed in fact! So I'm wondering, how much is it down to the 14-16 days steeping and how much is it down to the better hardware? Probably like the old "how long is a piece of string" question I know, but can the Nautilus mini REALLY be so superior to the little ET's? So much so that the juice tastes completely different?
Because if so, I'm ordering 2 more minis asap!

 

[Baditude]

Different flavors will definitely taste different in different juice attachments. Period. Think about it, coils and wicking materials will be different and produce vapor differently. This is why sampling flavors in a vape shop with their juice attachments can result in the flavors you bought to taste differently in your devices when you get home. That's why when I sample flavors at a shop I prefer to drip them on my own equipment.

IMHO, the higher you go on the juice attachment ladder, the better the flavor/vapor will be.

Rebuildable Drip Atomizers better than Rebuildable Tank Atomizers
Anything rebuildable better than cartotanks or clearomizers
Cartotanks better than Clearomizers
High end clearomizer (ie Aspire Nautilus) better than a low end clearo (generic disposable clearo).

Of course, there's a lot of variance in flavors/e-liquids in general, too. What I like, you probably won't, and vice versa.

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[Ozzie_J]

Thanks. I'm just flabbergasted that the taste is SO different! Bit of a shame really b/c I really can't praise the little aspire ET's highly enough.

 

[Sir2fyablyNutz]

I've had both tanks and the Nautilus is twice or more the better tank than the ET's. But, in my opinion just about all juices (especially the fresh made ones) will benefit from steep. I don't have an ADV (all day vape) so I switch flavors often. At one time I had 5 Nautilus (4 minis and 1 full sized) so all I had to do was switch a tank to change flavor. (I preferred the Mini tanks) Now I'm doing the Kanger Subtank Mini's and building my own coils.

 

[edyle]

Stupid question really, I know. What I'm really getting at here is, since using my new Nautilus mini I've found a HUGE difference in the flavour of some e-liquid (I've actually only used 2 different juices since I got the NM on Saturday)

I was (sort of still am) using a couple of aspire ET tanks. They are very good, at least I thought so, but I got some Manabush Chiruacua Sun a few weeks ago and it was awful in them. So sweet and sickly. Decided to give it a bash in the NM and it's like a totally different juice! I'm putting it down to the fact that a couple of weeks steeping + new NM = much much better flavour, but I'm REALLY SURPRISED at the amount of difference. Amazed in fact! So I'm wondering, how much is it down to the 14-16 days steeping and how much is it down to the better hardware? Probably like the old "how long is a piece of string" question I know, but can the Nautilus mini REALLY be so superior to the little ET's? So much so that the juice tastes completely different?
Because if so, I'm ordering 2 more minis asap!

1: the same liquid can taste completely different on two different setups.
You mentioned that you compared the aspire ET to the nautilus mini, but did anything else change?
The wattage probably changed.

2: some liquids will react with the plastic of some plastic tanks; the nautilus mini is a glass tank.

As for steeping; if you had a liquid freshly mixed, then yes 2 weeks of steeping might be necessary for it to blend.

 

[Ozzie_J]

I've had both tanks and the Nautilus is twice or more the better tank than the ET's. But, in my opinion just about all juices (especially the fresh made ones) will benefit from steep. I don't have an ADV (all day vape) so I switch flavors often. At one time I had 5 Nautilus (4 minis and 1 full sized) so all I had to do was switch a tank to change flavor. (I preferred the Mini tanks) Now I'm doing the Kanger Subtank Mini's and building my own coils.

I started with one CE4, then five CE4's for different flavours. Then the two ET's. Looks like I'll be investing in at least one more Nautilus mini, and probably a full size one too!

 

[Ozzie_J]

1: the same liquid can taste completely different on two different setups.
You mentioned that you compared the aspire ET to the nautilus mini, but did anything else change?
The wattage probably changed.

2: some liquids will react with the plastic of some plastic tanks; the nautilus mini is a glass tank.

As for steeping; if you had a liquid freshly mixed, then yes 2 weeks of steeping might be necessary for it to blend.

Yeah, the wattage went down a touch, and I was thinking glass vs plastic would have an effect, but wow! what a difference!

 

[AlphaGuitarist]

I used the Nautilus for a few weeks, became interested in RTAs and bought a Russian 91%. I watched several building tutorials on YouTube and quickly got the hang of building my own coils. The tank produces nothing short of an amazing flavor. It has since become my daily driver, with the Nautilus being relegated to the backup position. Last weekend, I picked up an authentic Mirandus RDA and built a 0.8 ohm dual microcoil. The flavor is simply out of this world.

Unfortunately, the drawback of drip tanks is that their very nature (you have to always carry a bottle of e-juice and drip some into the tank every few puffs) pretty much relegates mine to home use only. However, having to constantly replenish the e-juice comes with the ability to quickly change flavors.

TL;DR: a good RTA tank strikes the perfect balance between flavor and portability.

 

[Ozzie_J]

I used the Nautilus for a few weeks, became interested in RTAs and bought a Russian 91%. I watched several building tutorials on YouTube and quickly got the hang of building my own coils. The tank produces nothing short of an amazing flavor. It has since become my daily driver, with the Nautilus being relegated to the backup position. Last weekend, I picked up an authentic Mirandus RDA and built a 0.8 ohm dual microcoil. The flavor is simply out of this world.

Unfortunately, the drawback of drip tanks is that their very nature (you have to always carry a bottle of e-juice and drip some into the tank every few puffs) pretty much relegates mine to home use only. However, having to constantly replenish the e-juice comes with the ability to quickly change flavors.

TL;DR: a good RTA tank strikes the perfect balance between flavor and portability.

RTA's sound good but I don't have much spare time (I have a large family!), bit wary of sub ohm too, purely b/c I don't want to fill the house with big clouds. Wife gives me pelters for fogging up the place as it is lol

 

[AlphaGuitarist]

RTA's sound good but I don't have much spare time (I have a large family!), bit wary of sub ohm too, purely b/c I don't want to fill the house with big clouds. Wife gives me pelters for fogging up the place as it is lol

My Russian 91% has a 1.8 ohm single coil build, which took me about 10 minutes the first time I built it. I use a couple of other tanks for my subohm needs, but I actually prefer non-subohm vaping. As you can see by my signature, I am a noob when it comes to vaping, but I was able to quickly get the hang of coil building. Trust me, it doesn't take a rocket scientist, nor does it take a lot of time; the payoff, on the other hand is well worth it.

 

[Ozzie_J]

I'll definitely be looking into building my own coils now!

 

[djsvapour]

Oddly enough, my all-time favourite tobacco-type liquid tastes horrible in the mini Nautilus.
Most things are good though. Nothing beats a Kayfun though, unless we are talking drippers.

 

[wheelie]

People search for hardware for more flavor. I find it a little silly. I got that part all figured out. Just put more flavoring it my juice when I mix it to make the flavor I want to stand out. Easier than trying to find different tanks and mods to pop out flavor that might not even be there to begin with. LOL Cheers!

 

[AlphaGuitarist]

I'll definitely be looking into building my own coils now!

Let me know if you need any pointers on coil building, I'll definitely help out!

 

[BreilaRose]

RTA's sound good but I don't have much spare time (I have a large family!), bit wary of sub ohm too, purely b/c I don't want to fill the house with big clouds. Wife gives me pelters for fogging up the place as it is lol

As a full time WOHM of 3 kids, I hear you on the lack of spare time. But once I built a coil and tried it out, I knew I'd never go back to prebuilts. Get a coil jig like the Coil Master, and they are dead easy to build, way cheaper, and last so so so much longer. I was changing out prebuilts on my tank every week or more, now I typically just change out the wick once every 5-7 days and the coil will last for weeks.

You don't have to build sub-ohm coils, you can build to your liking. I like "slightly sub-ohm," and build at .7 to .8 typically. That's another thing I like about building is that you can do what works for you. For me, 1.2 coils were a bit light, but .5 was a bit much. By building my own, I've found my own personal sweet spot.

 

[Ozzie_J]

Let me know if you need any pointers on coil building, I'll definitely help out!

Thanks. I'm definitely going to give it a go. Been doing a little online research already lol

 

[Ozzie_J]

As a full time WOHM of 3 kids, I hear you on the lack of spare time. But once I built a coil and tried it out, I knew I'd never go back to prebuilts. Get a coil jig like the Coil Master, and they are dead easy to build, way cheaper, and last so so so much longer. I was changing out prebuilts on my tank every week or more, now I typically just change out the wick once every 5-7 days and the coil will last for weeks.

You don't have to build sub-ohm coils, you can build to your liking. I like "slightly sub-ohm," and build at .7 to .8 typically. That's another thing I like about building is that you can do what works for you. For me, 1.2 coils were a bit light, but .5 was a bit much. By building my own, I've found my own personal sweet spot.

Thanks. Sub ohm sounds like fun but I just don't think my other half would tolerate any more "fog" around the house than there already is. First attempt I think I'll try about 1.2 or a little higher. What Nic level are you vapin at 1.2?

 

[Bunnykiller]

tanks/toppers do make a difference... for example... Kanger Protank and a Magma ... huge difference