Thank you for the very helpful post! I got one of these today and was trying to figure out what was going on.
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I just want to pass this along to any would be Vivi Nova buyers including vendors. This may be known by some, but not by all, as I and others where deceived by these recently. The vivi on the left as you can see on the box is a true "Vision" Vivi Nova. The Vivi on the right is the knockoff I recently bought. Different top caps and coil heads, being called the same version 2.5. They do not work nearly as well as the "Visions" and are in the trash. I challenge everyone to spread the word on this if your a fan of the Vision Vivi Novas to your favorite vendor and friends. Hopefully there will be protections put in place for all of us to prevent us wasting our money soon. Lesson learned: know what your buying
I own a knockoff (doesn't say Vision anywhere on the box), and it works erratically. That's why I've bought Kangers, there are less copies around.
I have both vision and knockoff novas and i find the sealed cap with the small metal tube on the knockoff heads work better and stop the pooling fluid in the top cap better than fiddling with the rubber piece on the cap of the vision head. Both work fine, I just have that one problem with the vision one, you can pull the grommet from the drip tip and fiddle with that too and it helps but why is it even necessary?
Shoot, it's more like beware the Vivi Nova itself. I've had nothing but bad, bad, bad experiences with it. I was so pumped when I got it, and hadn't been crushed so bad since The Phantom Menace. It's not even worth buying new heads for. It sits on my shelf sealed in carbonite (another bad SW joke). Unusable. Definitely not a fan. Leaks at the threads, makes my juices taste different, and overall, an underwhelming and disappointing experience. Also, it zapped my lips and tongue with little electric shocks when I hit it. Wish I could've gotten my 15 bucks back and spent it on some replacement cartos for my carto tank.
I've got a knockoff and will be getting some wick/coils for it that aren't the stock.. I fully was aware that they were knockoffs just wasn't told that they were. Good to hear that new heads make them even better.
Leaking at the threads.. I had that issue.. then I made sure they were tight.. and didn't have an issue after that.
Leaking at the threads.. I had that issue.. then I made sure they were tight.. and didn't have an issue after that.
Happened to me as well thinking I could share heads. But one is longer than the other...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tanks/342511-vivi-nova-differences.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tanks/342511-vivi-nova-differences.html
Problems can certainly arise with any device we choose to use. The Vivi's are by no means perfect, but these knockoffs just make things so much more complicated. I really hope Vision is suing the companies trying to capitalize on their success. When I'm explaining what to get to new vapors I always have to mention this. I can't just say to get this and this. I have to also mention that there are knockoffs that are very hard to identify. If you get one and it works for you great! Thats all that matters in the end. Just make sure your buying the right coils to go along with them and the right versions. I like and recommend the Vivi because of it's ease of use. I personally have had zero problems with them and love them. It's just sad that I have to review what my friends are buying so they aren't getting deceived.
To answer the the box question above, the knockoffs I pictured and bought do not say Vision anywhere on the box. The only other difference is that the Vision's box has a graphic of a cloud of smoke on it. The knockoff in the picture has no smoke graphic.
To answer the the box question above, the knockoffs I pictured and bought do not say Vision anywhere on the box. The only other difference is that the Vision's box has a graphic of a cloud of smoke on it. The knockoff in the picture has no smoke graphic.
biggest problem with the knock offs is the atty post and top cap. swap them out and the other differences are fairly negligible.
i had a leaker too. wel, two leakers. one i exchanged for a new one, and the other was fixed by flipping the tank. i just threaded it upside down and viola: no leaks.
also, removing the fabric sleeve from around the coils helps immensely with the burning taste. another thing i do with novas is use much lower voltage than id use with carto tanks or attys. less is more for me with the vivi. first, i test the ohms of the head because they usually arent what they described as. suppose the 2.8 head comes in at 3.0. i will go 1-1.2 units higher with my voltage: 4-4.2v. using this method gives me the best flavor and TH.
Hi DavenKay,
I bought 4 from atleast 2 dealers, only started using 1 in the last week, but i looked at them all very thoughly and they are identical. The boxes are identical, including cloud, but one box is missing any "Vision" marking. I don't know.....out of ink?
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I just want to pass this along to any would be Vivi Nova buyers including vendors. This may be known by some, but not by all, as I and others where deceived by these recently. The vivi on the left as you can see on the box is a true "Vision" Vivi Nova. The Vivi on the right is the knockoff I recently bought. Different top caps and coil heads, being called the same version 2.5. They do not work nearly as well as the "Visions" and are in the trash. I challenge everyone to spread the word on this if your a fan of the Vision Vivi Novas to your favorite vendor and friends. Hopefully there will be protections put in place for all of us to prevent us wasting our money soon. Lesson learned: know what your buying
Well, first thanks for the post!!! But hey, I found a picture of the front of a knock off ViVi and figured I'd put it up here too. Once I get home, I'll the front of the real one too!!
both are fakes, one is the standard and one is a mini!!! ...?!
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I just got a knockoff today. Had no clue I was purchasing a knockoff and I'm very displeased with it. Dry, scratchy hits. It's freakin disgusting. What a POS. I'm going to try to rebuild the coils and see if that helps. If not, thats $11 down the drain. Crap!
This is my point of contention.
It is NOT easy to use. Yes, it's easy to unscrew a cap, fill in liquid, rescrew a cap, press a button, and suck.
But that is WOEFULLY not the case for VVNs, even authentic ones. There are wicking issues. Coil issues. Once it gets to 2/3rd's you have to slosh and swish it. It leaks (yes, even newer versions leak). The threads strip. The plastic cracks. There are umptillion threads in the clearo subforum asking "Why is this happening?" "Has this happened to you?" "What is going wrong?" "What am I doing wrong?" "Wicking Issues" "Can I use VG?" "It tastes burnt" "I get dry hits" "I get an airy draw". I can keep going...
Also, cleaning the heads between juices... Seriously, there are dozens of how to threads on how to clean a head and wicks. Soak it in vodka (not always an option), hot water, boiling it, tearing out the threads and re-wicking it yourself. Seriously... this is "ease of use"?
I'm with ya there. Amazing how the results vary. It's really trial and error with these things. Never had any mechanical issues yet besides a leak which a new o ring took care of. However it took me a few rebuilds of the coils but to finally find what works for me I guess and I think that's the key. You can read all ya want on tips and tricks but you have to find what works for you. No gaurentee that what worked for "Bill" will yeild you the same results.
This knockoff was horrible right out of the box though. Not even close.
Threads like this make me love this site. I bought two vivi minis a few weeks ago without even realizing there were selling knockoffs. The first time I hooked a tank up it tripped my batteries protection circuit and the battery didn't work for a few minutes. Luckily it recovered with no damage. I then tested the resistance on my attys and they were all over the place. The attys are marked with the ohms but they are not accurate. What my meter says and the performance does not match what's marked on the atty. They are all basically junk. For the last week I couldn't figure out why everyone was loving this device. I see after reading this thread the device many love is not what I have.
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