Big Tobacco For E-Cig!?

[DaveP]

Yes, I agree. I do not try to convert them. It's when they see me using it, I get "You still sucking on that thing?" with a smirk. They then start to barrel down on me that I don't know what chemicals I'm inhaling, I try to stand up for myself and explain the difference between liquid and cigarette smoke but am met with stubbornness. To be fair, there is one nice gentleman I work with, probably close to 60, seemed interested from the get go, or at least he was trying to be polite. He took one of my Innovapor cards and said he'd check it out, but has never taken the next step. The only person I am trying to convert is my wife.

When people ask, they generally dont want the technical answer, but when they comment about the "chemicals" you can tell them that the E-cig consists of nicotine, flavors, and either PG or VG, both of which are in the food you eat, the medicines you take, and you can name a few other widespread uses. And, by the way, the "anti-freeze" ingredient was in your IV at the hospital and may have been in your last bottle of cough syrup. The nitrosamines have been tested to be at such insignificant levels that testing determined them not to be a cancer risk. Your well done steak has much more.

When you can spout provable facts, people will leave you alone. Of course, they might just not ask again because they don't want to hear the sermon repeated.

I wish Dan Rather was still around. 60 Minutes would be a great place to educate people.

 

[D103]

I wholeheartedly agree DaveP with the 60 minutes sentiment! How about John
Stossel. He seems fairly good at these type of educating/eye-opening, bust the liars type of stories.

 

[kristin]

I wholeheartedly agree DaveP with the 60 minutes sentiment! How about John
Stossel. He seems fairly good at these type of educating/eye-opening, bust the liars type of stories.

I wrote John Stossel about ecigs. Never heard back.

Maybe if we started a letter campaign to him, we'd get his attention!

 

[MsSki]

Kristin
I agree with you, Just tell me what to do and where to add my name , Im game, being im not good with words i just add my name to the polls and the petitions.
Tara

 

[D103]

I wrote John Stossel about ecigs. Never heard back.

Maybe if we started a letter campaign to him, we'd get his attention!

I agree Kristin, you write very well - I'll definitely sign aboard.

 

[D103]

Did you mean we each send a letter to Stossel or have one letter that we all sign?
If you think we each should send our own letter I can do that - can you give me the address you used?

 

[Gamer]

So was this beta testing?


Accord Philip Morris New Device Puff Activated Lighter 1997.mp4

 

[Gamer]

IMPORTANT UPDATE!​

The Consumer Opinion Center is doing a study on E-CIGS! Why does that matter? The COC, or Consumer Opinions Center, Is a study group that is financed by Phillip Morris. They normally do studies on any tobacco products or any products that they think they can benefit from. I was able to speak to them today, they are not testing a new product "yet" but are currently gathering information on what Types of E-Cigs consumers use. (BTW you will NOT be able to find the study on their website, but if you call them they will note they are looking for participants!)

I called in today and got myself signed up. They basically pay you to sit down and talk with them about the types, brands, flavors, etc. of e-cigs that you use so that they can look at the market and what demands are out there. I am VERY Excited! And no matter what you thing about PM, they pay really well for your time!

So is Phillip Morris really looking into E-Cigs? Apparently so! And trust me, If I get in to do the study I will be sure to post some results

Also if your a Richmond, Virginia Resident and want more info feel free to call the Consumer Opinion Center for more info

Just wanted to get this out there!

 

[Perfectionist]

SWEET !! Keep us updated dude!

 

[Yankee802]

Figures, after I move from Virginia they do this.

 

[DaveP]

I agree that BT will be in on the ecig and you can bet that they are deep into R&D. I haven't been back to the store lately but one BP station had placards on the top of the pumps advertising an electronic cigarette available inside. I want to say it was Phillip Morris, but I'm not sure. It did say that the Ecig was disposable and came in packs of multiple Ecigs. I'll have to stop there and look again. Since it is where I buy analogs for the lowest price, I haven't been back since my Ecig kit first arrived two months ago.

Someone asked upstream in this topic where PG came from. Here's the short answer
http://www.noblecompany.com/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=wMcYOlsjZY4=&tabid=67&mid=443

The long story is here.
Propylene glycol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It is interesting that under the topic in the article entitled "Humans" there is some concern of inhalation exposure causing irritation to some people and those who are allergic could develop other symptoms that the article talks about.

My take is that extensive testing on human subjects is needed, using the specific dosing method provided by the PV. My experience is that PG tends to irritate my throat and I will eventually develop a cough from the drying action. I need to sip on something water based to keep my throat moisturized.

VG doesn't seem to do that and I tend to gravitate to VG and PG/VG mixes with the majority of the ingredients being VG as in 80/20 down to 60/40 VG/PG or so.

 

[Gamer]

UPDATE:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ion-richmond-virginia-vapors.html#post1863998

The Consumer Opinions Center (https://consumeropinioncenter.com/) Is holding open registeration for ELECTRONIC CIGARETTES! Tonight (Thursday September 9, 2010) at 6:00PM! For those that don't know, Consumer Opinion Center is the Phillip Morris Tobacco Study Group

Questions Call: 1-800-9267-COC (1-800-926-7262)

We need people to sign up! This is a last min post about this but people are needed.

COC is paying $150 for your time if you are chosen to help!

More importantly I WILL BE THERE! PLEASE VIRGINIA! HELP!

Consumer Opinion Center
600 Block of N. 5th Street
Richmond, VA 23219

 

[Skwerl]

I'm interested to see what Phillip Morris comes up with. Like, what kind of equipment? Are they going to come up with long lasting nice equipment, or some disposable stuff? Refillable or not? Very curious.

I would hope for some really good tobacco flavor e-liquid- most of whats out there is crap, let us not kid ourselves saying it tastes convincingly cigarette-y. The tobacco companies do know a thing or two on flavouring formulary. As for batteries and atty's the wizards in China have that locked down; most likely Tobacco companies will just start a manufacturing partnership with the existing ecig manufacturers.
Maybe this is how Big T is going to get out from under all those smoking lawsuit?

 

[Gamer]

Well that was fun! Several vapers showed up but this isnt over yet! The COC is looking for MORE People to come to the NEXT BIGGER study! So that means CALL and show your support for E-Cigs for Richmond VA!

To register with the Consumer Opinion Center Call: 1-800-9267-COC (1-800-926-7262)
I ask that when they ask for a reference tell them that William Pelino sent you, they should know who I am and should make things easier.

To Qualify You Must:
Ages: 21-65
Used E-cigs for 3months or more
and have general knowledge of the product.
OH and be a resident of Richmond VA or surrounding areas.



The study time ranges from 30min to 3hrs and they pay $175 just for showing up!

To apply online:
https://www.consumeropinioncenter.com/

They are VERRY interested in E-Cigs and want to hold studies but NEED people to sign up so they can have the Numbers to fill their quota! So please Virginia Call in and register. Don't forget to mention my name!