Big Tobacco proposes open container tank ban for e-liquid

[Baditude]

Just to further illustrate that Big Tobacco is not our friend in the FDA Regulations, they have proposed a ban on e-liquids being used in open system aerosol containers. Ie: tanks, clearomizers and cartomizers. I would assume this would also apply to RBA type devices, too. They propose e-liquid be sold only in closed non-refillable cartridges like Blu e-cigarettes use.

 

[simplynewt]

Yep, seen that coming. Government soon to follow.

 

[faile]

I hate them. I really, really do...

 

[Moonbogg]

What a cheap shot. Anyone who doesn't see right through that needs to get their head examined.

 

[Robdob]

It's actually kind of brilliant in a twisted devious underhanded way. I wonder who sold their soul to the devil for that one.

 

[The Cloud Minder]

I can just see them all sitting around their mahogany boardroom table brainstorming:

"OK, how can we get e cigarettes all banned except OUR e cigarettes?"

"I know, let's use scary words like "China" and "open systems susceptible to tampering" then we'll pretend that e juice makers are going to purposefully put harmful stuff in their ejuice, never minding they'd get sued out of business if they did."

 

[EBates]

I can just see them all sitting around their mahogany boardroom table brainstorming:

"OK, how can we get e cigarettes all banned except OUR e cigarettes?"

"I know, let's use scary words like "China" and "open systems susceptible to tampering" then we'll pretend that e juice makers are going to purposefully put harmful stuff in their ejuice, never minding they'd get sued out of business if they did."

Why wouldn't they BT has been doing it forever

 

[Monotremata]

So now it can be tampered with?? Yeah maybe if someone walks up and snatches it out of my hand while Im vapeing or uses the force to pull the damn thing out of my pocket.. Screw BT, I hope if any of this actually happens we all just quit and stick it to em once and for all. Its time they all went down anyways.

 

[The Cloud Minder]

So now it can be tampered with?? Yeah maybe if someone walks up and snatches it out of my hand while Im vapeing or uses the force to pull the damn thing out of my pocket.. Screw BT, I hope if any of this actually happens we all just quit and stick it to em once and for all. Its time they all went down anyways.

I don't blame BT for anything to do with my previous tobacco use. I knew from when I was little that it was addictive and not a good idea to breathe in smoke, I chose to do it anyway. What I can hate them for are attempts to interfere with PVs. AS if you couldn't contaminate a cigarette.

 

[dmetzcher]

[Big Tobacco proposes] e-liquid be sold only in closed non-refillable cartridges like Blu e-cigarettes use.

I just threw up in my mouth. Blu is a horrible system, even if it did help me quit smoking. So many dud cartridges. So many failed batteries. So much frustration. In the end, it was as expensive as smoking.

This doesn't surprise me at all, though. If Big Tobacco can drown us in enough unnecessary, anti-competitive, self-serving legislation, they can drive the little guys out of business and move in to fill the vacuum. It's nothing more than a blatant attempt to create a monopoly, and I have no faith that our government will be opposed to it on those grounds. Antitrust laws have essentially been gutted, because the government doesn't even try to make it look like they are enforcing them. Aside from that, this sort of legislation does not "help" the consumer. It doesn't matter how we get our e-juice, whether in a cartridge or in small plastic bottles. It's all the same, unless your business model is to sell disposable cartridges.

 

[stevegmu]

Of course a business wants to eliminate the competition. That's how business works, but it rarely ever actually happens...

 

[wv2win]

I believe several of us have been predicting this "shot" for the last two years.

We basically have only two options left, IMO:

1. Vote "smart" in November and hope that the leadership of the Senate changes hands, which will lead to the best chance of derailing the Deeming Regulations.

2. Be prepared financially to contribute as much as possible to a class action lawsuit brought by CASAA or SAFTA or both.

 

[potholerepairman]

Not a tank fan,but how does that not stink from within.Its tough for evil corps to die with dignity.

 

[wv2win]

Of course a business wants to eliminate the competition. That's how business works...

Doing it through lies and unjust regulation is not how good American business works. But according to you, we have nothing to worry about.

 

[djsvapour]

Well, there we have it. The future as BT see it.

Get all products but their own banned and then hike the prices to as high as possible so it no longer matters to them whether they sell tobacco cigarettes or e-cigarettes.

There IS a HUGE spanner in the works though... Oh Yes!

There are plenty of non-tobaccco (e-cig) companies in existence who can easily sell a sealed (non-open) system and take them on price-wise and quality-wise.
So, unless they totally win the war on advertising, they won't get to their goal.

 

[K31Scout]

There's a lot I want to say but in a nut shell it's the way of almost all big corporations and it makes me sick.

 

[stevegmu]

They control the FDA, thus the regulations, so it is over. Short of sending the FDA bags of cash- as the prevailing view is that they are bought and paid for, what is crying about it on the internet doing?

 

[WattWick]

Never heard the term "open container tank" before. Will be interesting to see which of our "adversaries" pick up on it and use it for their own campaigns... in a follow the money rhetorics kind of way.

 

[issy]

This makes me want to scream (and not in a good kind of way). How can anyone not see through this? They are all in bed together. I hope voting will help.

 

[Krashman Von Stinkputin]

"By their very nature, open system vapor products present a unique risk for adulteration, tampering, and quality control not exhibited in other other class of tobacco products. And we should know because we wrote the book on adulterating and tampering with tobacco decades ago."

Fixed.