Bottom vs Top feeding?

[4mehealth]

As I continue on my vaping "career". I'm looking into a feeder. What's the advantage/ disadvantage of one vs the other?

The GLV3 really has me interested. I'm just at a loss as to whether I'd want it to be top/ bottom or both.

Just wondering what your thoughts are.

Thanks for answering.

 

[studio52]

A bottom feeder is just a 6ml bottle of juice that drips upward into the atty, convenient, good for all day vaping with 6ml, noothing to carry but ya box....Get a Monkey Box I got mine and Im over the top happy with the quality and looks, great service and really good price for what ya get....they are customized for you....

 

[Mariusica]

Or get The Reo mod . I have 3 and Love all of them.

 

[six]

Top feeders have a couple of limitations. 1) You can't use an XL cartomizer without a modified feed tube, and even if you go with a moded tube, you'll still end up flooding the center tube of most cartos. 2) Juice recovery (catching and using overflow juice) is much more difficult with a top feeder than a bottom feeder so most top fed mods don't employ any method of juice recovery.

Top feeders may have some advantages, though. You can watch the juice go through the tube. Some people say the flavor is better.

And not contributing to answering your question, but just an interesting item:The Eclipse looks to be a top feeder. If it ever comes to market, it should be the most technologically advanced e-cig to-date... and one of the most expensive. Top feeders might become vogue again.

 

[BuzzKill]

The top feeders Six is talking about have NO regulation on the amount they deliver , they are a bottle with a tube in them . bottom feeders have their own issues mainly flooding and most of them have no control either , the control is the main issues that I have heard about .

For an atty top feeding is preferred In Most Cases . also they work on cartos IF there is some control .

Six is correct about the extra tube length however .

 

[six]

The top feeders Six is talking about have NO regulation on the amount they deliver , they are a bottle with a tube in them . bottom feeders have their own issues mainly flooding and most of them have no control either , the control is the main issues that I have heard about .

Is there a top feeder currently on the market that has regulated juice feed? - I just started delving in to the juice box devices in the last few weeks, so I still have a lot of curiosity about them. The one I linked to reportedly has a computer controlled micro pump that regulates juice feed, but it isn't for sale yet. You have an interesting photo on your website, but that device isn't for sale yet (as far as I know) and there's not too much by way of details accompanying it.

What's out there by way of regulated juice feeds?

 

[mwa102464]

This is why the "Eclipse eq" I think is going to be a cool Mod, you will be able to set it to drip how many drops you want it to in reference to the Atty your using and your vaping style !

 

[six]

This is why the "Eclipse eq" I think is going to be a cool Mod,

I think so too. And, now I have to guess that buzzkill might be releasing something similarly capable. When he says something like "control is the main issue I've heard about" and talks like something else exists that would have that desired feature (in this case, "control"), it tends to be followed by a product that addresses the feature he is talking about. -

Case in point - the much linked-to scottbee thread about battery voltages. -- Buzzkill talks about a feature, "power" that is desirable. Along comes VV to offer that feature "power"...

So, I think it is entirely possible that after the buzz pro debuts, we might start hearing a bit more about that other mod on his site, the vvpv. And, I have to think it must be able to deliver that desirable feature "control" he mentioned in his post.

Edit: And now I also think he will offer it with a couple of different length feed tubes. I hope he names that add-on feature after me or something.

 

[BuzzKill]

I think so too. And, now I have to guess that buzzkill might be releasing something similarly capable. When he says something like "control is the main issue I've heard about" and talks like something else exists that would have that desired feature (in this case, "control"), it tends to be followed by a product that addresses the feature he is talking about. -

Case in point - the much linked-to scottbee thread about battery voltages. -- Buzzkill talks about a feature, "power" that is desirable. Along comes VV to offer that feature "power"...

So, I think it is entirely possible that after the buzz pro debuts, we might start hearing a bit more about that other mod on his site, the vvpv. And, I have to think it must be able to deliver that desirable feature "control" he mentioned in his post.

Edit: And now I also think he will offer it with a couple of different length feed tubes. I hope he names that add-on feature after me or something.

LMAO ! OK it is the 6 now !!!

I cannot talk about it here but over at our forum we talk about it all the time 6

come on by

 

[unsure]

When topfeeders first came out you had to worry about having the exposed tube getting caught on something. I assume or hope thats not an issue with new topfeeders.

I think your right about the GLV3...very interesting.

 

[six]

I think your right about the GLV3.

Though Great lakes Vapor makes very high quality products, the GLV3 does not have a juice regulator. It is a manual squeeze bottle.

 

[4mehealth]

Perhaps I've got the "ignorance is bliss" mentality.

As of right now, I like dripping. Wasn't too fond of carts. Carto's are ok. But still not something I like. Dripping is working well for me. So, I figure I'll stick with it. My issue right now is driving. Can't drip and drive. Well, I can, but it ain't the smart thing to do.

With that being the case, I figure a juicebox of some type would suit me well. Bottom or top would suit (I think).

So far, the issues with top feeding is the tube may get caught on something, and there doesn't appear to be any method of juice capture.
And with bottom feeders, it's the issue of flooding, and it doesn't work "as well" on an atty.

As for the eclipse, that's out of my range at this point. I just recently moved up to a Rough Stack. And with cisco lr atty's, I'm very happy with my vape. I'm not really looking to move up to higher voltage. (I didn't say never, just not at this point). So I don't really have that much interest in the Eclipse (price too).

Aside from regulated feeding, it kinda seems like the glv3 captures the best of both worlds. TOp feed for an atty, juice capture from the bottom. Decisions decisions. I wish I had a boatload of money just to get all these mods and figure it out from there.

 

[Critter Man]

Looks like the eclipse will have an exposed feed tube. Still, that's one sweet-lookin' PV!

 

[LMP]

At MadVapes there is an inexpensive ($30.00) top feeder box mod, they are out of stock right now but you can put your name on a waiting list.

510 Juice Feeder Mod

 

[Neon]

Looks like the eclipse will have an exposed feed tube. Still, that's one sweet-lookin' PV!

That was the main thing that turned me off, so much innovation and thought in the design. They could have concealed the tube.

Neon

 

[fray]

Tried a vapemate and have a reo. Bottom feeding is my preference. I have less flooding with the reo also.

The problem I had with the vapemate is trying to figure out how much to squeeze. With the reo I squeeze the bottle and inhale so I can hear/feel it going into the atty.

A regulated feeder sounds very promising though.

 

[ukeman]

the reason i prefer dripping, after going through a bunch of bottom feeders, is what you are all saying; bottom feeding can flood, and you have trouble regulating the amount you squeeze into the bottom of the atty. Most or some have a function where you suck the flooded juice back into the atty and vape it up... well it's still flooded...

and no one can tell me that's as good as a perfectly dripped vape... on the TOP of the atty.

Those that love bottom feeders are good enough about their squeeze techniques; i just figure, go to the trouble to get the right power, the matching resistance... for the right vape, you need the right amount of juice.

you know, i'm not sure if top or bottom makes any difference if it's the right amount of drops.

I had nothing but troubles with the VapeMate, a manual top feeding mod... same thing; too much or too little juice, not enough control.

IMO most people that get into bottom feeders for the first time are looking at not having to mess with dripping... but dripping takes a while to really master, but once you do, there's no better vape.

 

[ogredog]

the reason i prefer dripping, after going through a bunch of bottom feeders, is what you are all saying; bottom feeding can flood, and you have trouble regulating the amount you squeeze into the bottom of the atty. Most or some have a function where you suck the flooded juice back into the atty and vape it up... well it's still flooded...

and no one can tell me that's as good as a perfectly dripped vape... on the TOP of the atty.

Those that love bottom feeders are good enough about their squeeze techniques; i just figure, go to the trouble to get the right power, the matching resistance... for the right vape, you need the right amount of juice.

you know, i'm not sure if top or bottom makes any difference if it's the right amount of drops.

I had nothing but troubles with the VapeMate, a manual top feeding mod... same thing; too much or too little juice, not enough control.

IMO most people that get into bottom feeders for the first time are looking at not having to mess with dripping... but dripping takes a while to really master, but once you do, there's no better vape.

Ya, no better vape than dripping! but its all the same finding the sweet spot on your device dripping or feeders (and thickness of liquid hmmm). eventually you get it.

the feeders are the same way, unless you hit a bump while driving at the wrong moment squeeeeeze...dang it lol (or drip on your hands wipe shirt, greasy steering wheel lol) which i doooo sometimes

feeders are great for those who vape alot and stick with their same liquid all day. grab and go. not just because we don't want to mess with dripping. i leave it in the car. suck some juice up before you even fire it up.

I change juice too much to carry it everywhere though. you can do that with cartos too i know but talk about hassle filling a bunch of flavors (which one is that again) or topping off, change out the filling optional of course, I have 5 3ml bottles in my little case for dripping (that fits in my pocket with pv) tell me thats not easy takes a minute to refill them all if i need too

Need to start an everyday carry thread full of everyones gear! loaded with pics!

 

[OaklandCA]

I was a dripper fan when limited to 306 and 510 attys but after a spate of QC issues with atties and some other technical challenges i slumped back into analogs...once i came out of it i resolved to explore all the cartos i could find with decent reviews and i could also find a supplier for and could afford. well $$$ later having crapped out on clearomizers and who knows how many different ones (blurred late night ordering sessions, too many different brands to remember) i settled on boge 2.0s SWEET. recently got a Reo (bit of a lottery that) put the boge on it and was totally good to go at all times

whammm got a bum couple of boxes of boges...shuffled into the back drawer and pulled out some shiny new 510 attys....sad to say i can't get the same quality dripping, squonking (the reo word for pressing the bottle) or even hunting through the debris for smart carts, old style carts, clearos darkos, or whatever....

a bottom feeder with a reliable carto (using my emergency reserve dual coil cartos as i type (packs just a bit too much hit) and alternating with some 510 oh so average atomizers... i say "give up on dripping" --it takes too much skill, memory and practice, (not to mention messy and mad scientist looking) and go for a carto on a bottom-feeder. Automation, plenty of room for error, (put in to much: no flooding just a momentary gurgle) put in too little, a weak vape mmmh what should i do...i know squeeze the bottle! Top or bottom (and hey who needs another tube hanging out) with a carto you don't have to think!!!!

not as mindless as my cigarette daze but get's me through some hella boring meetings when i would have had to be nic free for HOURS!

anyway i am cutting back--really honest no kidding i vape less than i smoked and it costs the same or less (almost i mean, sort of, well after i recoup the cost of this charger and the batteries and the... etc etc. whoa what's that cool new carto on sale---gotta go.) well ok i vape the same as i smoked--well i can do it indoors, and in the middle of a conversation or at a meeting!! nice.

 

[ukeman]

I drip from 4 to10 different juices a day... how?
3 pv's at least; i do practically all my vaping at home; work at home...

I started a year ago. After working at dripping for a few months, the feeders came out... (after carlo's juice box) wetbox, reo, journeyman, ali'i, phidias. that was it man! I was so so tired of dripping, leaks, spills, stop and go... yuck.

My problem was i couldn't get a great vape every time with the bottom feeders; LR's, regulars, 306, 510, 901's.

and i didn't like carto's anyway; the taste wasn't there, and the burning filler looked gruesome.

Then someone told me about the Provari coming out last fall; with the booster circuit to regulate the variable power so that each vape is tailored to the atty resistance... got the first run; and my dripping practice came in handy; it was worth all the time spent sputtering with dripping.

You know, if you watch all the videos and read all the threads, these folks are vape fiends!
I chain vape all the time, and did ever since i started. The average person on ECF, imo, is not up on every new detail and doesn't want to spend hours and days and weeks / months fiddling with dripping when you got tanks, Dual Coil cartos, and feeders. But will they get the best vape? I dunno. Dr Vapor makes it look easy.

I gotta say on this topic OP, until a bottom feed comes out with regulated variable power, i got nothing to say. and won't because i can't just vape one juice all day. They are expensive, but imo worth it for the satisfaction... these new PV's (provari, darwin, eclipse, buzz pro series) are just a bit more money than the good feeders.... think about it.