Box Battery vs. Cylinder Battery

[The Sloth]

Hello,

I’ve been reading this forum a lot lately to find information on everything I can about vaping. This isn’t for myself, but for a family member that I am buying for, who has never vaped before (I am not a smoker or a vaper). I started a thread when I first joined the site and got a lot of great information from the community.

I’m on the verge of making my first purchase for my family member after a lot of research to try and get them off analogs.

I was planning to go with an iStick 30W and a Nautilus Mini.

However, after some reading on this forum and watching some review videos (from people who I assume are very much into vaping), I’ve come across a lot of people recommending and using a cylinder shaped battery for their tank. I’m not sure what the exact name of this type of battery is (example: ego one, or the batteries listed on the next line).

I also had some of them recommended as “upgrades” to the iStick 30W, such as the vamo, e-lvt, zmax, provari, and the tesla.

From what I can tell, these cylinder battery types don’t go to as high of wattage as the iStick 30W, but, they have removable batteries.

So, my questions:

1: Is there an advantage to these cylinder type batteries over a box battery such as the iStick 30W or the MVP 3.0? Would you recommend the cylinder style battery over the box battery?

2: If the box mods are better to get, is there one with a replaceable battery to get, or is it better to stick with the iStick? Or if there's anything else that I've overlooked.

Thank you in advance!

 

[dhood]

the iStick 30W and the Nautilus Mini would be a great starter kit for someone (wish I had started like that - would have saved me a LOT of money). The battery life and capabilities of the iStick would serve a new vaper well. The Nautilus is a great tank and the adjustable airhole would allow them to get just the right draw to suit them. There are cylinder style batteries that would do the job, but overall, the iStick will probably fit nicely in their hand.

 

[gandymarsh]

I agree with dhood. Another option for a tank is the Eleaf GS-Air. The Air is about half the price of the Nautilus mini so two for the price of one. It's maybe not quite as good but fine for a beginner. Eleaf GS Air Tank - Eleaf Tanks - Eleaf - Clearomizers Tanks

 

[ElevenEleven]

If a battery goes bad, you just replace the battery.

If an iStick goes back, you just replace the iStick.

 

[Susan~S]

So, my questions:

1: Is there an advantage to these cylinder type batteries over a box battery such as the iStick 30W or the MVP 3.0? Would you recommend the cylinder style battery over the box battery?

2: If the box mods are better to get, is there one with a replaceable battery to get, or is it better to stick with the iStick?

Some people prefer one over the other for the feel and look. Some prefer "tube style" mods because many use replaceable batteries.

1. The benefits of using a replaceable battery is when the battery dies you only have to replace the battery (not the whole mod).
2. The drawback is many of them require you remove the battery for charging (you need to purchase a charger) and you need to purchase extra batteries.
3. One of the benefits of using an internal battery is you can use it while charging.
4. The downside of a box mod with an internal battery (like the iStick or MVP is that once the battery dies, you have to replace the whole mod.

I have 4 MVP's and 3 iSticks and none of them has died yet. I have no idea how long they would last if I just used one of them all the time. However I have not heard of anyone reporting their "internal battery" mod died in less than 1+ years.

I would stick with the iStick 30w and mini Nautilus combination. It's a great choice for someone new to vaping. I use both my Nautilus's on two of my iStick 20w (purchased before the iStick 30w came out).

 

[jambi]

I'd say stick with your original istick plan. It's a good starting point. Not really partial to the Nautilus myself, but I suppose it's as good a place to start as anything comparable.

 

[tj99959]

I like to have choices, and I don't want to vape the same rig 24/7. So at least for me, the best rig is 'more than one'.

Unfortunately that choice can get expensive if a person doesn't think things through.

For example:
All 4 of these use the exact same battery,

and made tube mods my choice.
Of those 4, two are mechanical, and two are regulated. (yes the Nemesis has a Kick-2 in it)

 

[djsvapour]

The choices are endless. All my tube mods are inferior in performance** to even a 20w iStick. Maybe that's because they are all old tech... (probably )

There are some recent tube mods which are more powerful depending on your requirements. Totally up to you, unless you discover you want to vape at 40 watts and your tube only does 30w.

**I can get 30w easily from a Nemesis, say, but think people tend to shy away from Mechs these days. Power, these days, is cheap and relatively safe.

 

[edyle]

Hello,

I’ve been reading this forum a lot lately to find information on everything I can about vaping. This isn’t for myself, but for a family member that I am buying for, who has never vaped before (I am not a smoker or a vaper). I started a thread when I first joined the site and got a lot of great information from the community.

I’m on the verge of making my first purchase for my family member after a lot of research to try and get them off analogs.

I was planning to go with an iStick 30W and a Nautilus Mini.

However, after some reading on this forum and watching some review videos (from people who I assume are very much into vaping), I’ve come across a lot of people recommending and using a cylinder shaped battery for their tank. I’m not sure what the exact name of this type of battery is (example: ego one, or the batteries listed on the next line).

I also had some of them recommended as “upgrades” to the iStick 30W, such as the vamo, e-lvt, zmax, provari, and the tesla.

From what I can tell, these cylinder battery types don’t go to as high of wattage as the iStick 30W, but, they have removable batteries.

So, my questions:

1: Is there an advantage to these cylinder type batteries over a box battery such as the iStick 30W or the MVP 3.0? Would you recommend the cylinder style battery over the box battery?

2: If the box mods are better to get, is there one with a replaceable battery to get, or is it better to stick with the iStick? Or if there's anything else that I've overlooked.

Thank you in advance!

The new higher powered mods use multiple batteries; if they were to design those high powered mods as, tubes they would have to be a foot long, so instead they design a box.

Tube vs box shouldn't really be a criteria except for user aesthetic preference.
A box design is a more compact design.

 

[waknvap]

the old cylinder mods are almost obsolete cuz of the new box mods.

I think the biggest thing they add is a digital button.....the old mechanical mods with mehcanical buttons really really suck. The old mechanical buttons break a lot, dont work poperly and can actually be a fire hazard by going off accidently in your front pocket....i have heard of dudes catching their gonands on fire.

 

[tj99959]

the old cylinder mods are almost obsolete cuz of the new box mods.

I think the biggest thing they add is a digital button.....the old mechanical mods with mehcanical buttons really really suck. The old mechanical buttons break a lot, dont work poperly and can actually be a fire hazard by going off accidently in your front pocket....i have heard of dudes catching their gonands on fire.

That's like saying my 1946 Model 70 (30-338) is obsolete because of all the newer AR style rifles made today, even though It will still nail a postage stamp at a thousand meters.

 

[Rinkhals]

iStick 30W definately. Nautilus Mini would be a very good 1st tank but I would probably go with the Kanger Subtank Mini. It comes with a 1.2 Ohm coil and a .5 Ohm coil, allowing that individual to try a couple of different options right at the start.

 

[ignotus]

1: Is there an advantage to these cylinder type batteries over a box battery such as the iStick 30W or the MVP 3.0? Would you recommend the cylinder style battery over the box battery?

2: If the box mods are better to get, is there one with a replaceable battery to get, or is it better to stick with the iStick? Or if there's anything else that I've overlooked.

1. I don't see any advantage unless you like the look or feel of a tube-mod better (I'm only talking about regulated devices here).

2. Yes, higher-end examples feature replaceable batteries, such as the VaporShark rDNA and Yihi SXMini. They are at the same time equipped with a charging port, so you have either option. For a new vaper though, you may be better off starting with an iStick or MVP.

Higher wattage devices do tend to be of the box style, though I doubt he/she will need more than 15 watts for a Nautilus Mini.

 

[JW McNeal]

There is a lot of good advice here, i have been looking into the differences in box mods, mech., and such... i didn't know about the mvp 3, i may go with that 'cause i like my mvp 2


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[djsvapour]

I've never had a tube mod outlive a battery, so the replaceable battery idea never worked for me.

Obviously a really good quality VV/VW mod should outlive a battery, but I've never bought top top quality.

A mech can last forever, I guess.

 

[tj99959]

I've never had a tube mod outlive a battery, so the replaceable battery idea never worked for me.

Obviously a really good quality VV/VW mod should outlive a battery, but I've never bought top top quality.

A mech can last forever, I guess.

This (made in England) tube mod is 4 years old, and still vapes like a champ.

It fell out of my duck blind a couple of years ago, and spent a week in the mud at the bottom of Ogden Bay. (my dog found it for me)
See how your "Obviously a really good quality VV/VW mod should outlive a battery" does with that!

 

[UNREALBANTER]

the iStick 30W and the Nautilus Mini would be a great starter kit for someone (wish I had started like that - would have saved me a LOT of money). The battery life and capabilities of the iStick would serve a new vaper well. The Nautilus is a great tank and the adjustable airhole would allow them to get just the right draw to suit them. There are cylinder style batteries that would do the job, but overall, the iStick will probably fit nicely in their hand.

Perfect. Totally agree. Although if I could go back I would have went with the full sized nautilus. That mini seals so tight I couldn't get mine apart without breaking it after awhile. But it's a beautiful little tank!

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[diceman1000]

Another option is something like the IPV Mini or Mini 2 and a Kanger Subtank Mini with a pair of LG HE2 batteries and extra coils... If all bought from somewhere like elev8vape it should run $100 give or take and with the Subtank you will have the option to rebuild if you decide you want to try it... This setup would be fairly future proof... The iStick 30 is an excellent choice as well, but of look beyond either Nautilus...

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[diceman1000]

Also, check out Vapor Joes and Gotsmok... Lots of great deals...

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[tearose50]

I think your choice of an iStick30 and a Nautilus are excellent choices for helping one switch from smoking to vaping. Vaping is wonderful, but not quite as simple as using a lighter, so the proven winners for ease and function are good choices.

I also recommend a JoyE ego twist and Nauti mini. Even lighter in weight and nothing to learn but to twist the dial up or down. There are some newer similar tubes with contained batteries, but the good olf JoyE Ego Twist has a track record of being a good "battery".

As I recall, one of the first things to get used to when switching to vaping was the weight of the device. As a Twist is about the size of a cigar it is lighter than about anything but a cig-alike. Some find it more comfy to hold. At least the shape is somewhat similar to what one is used to. On the other hand, a rounded box shape groves in and quickly becomes quite comfy to hold.

Also, it seems to me it would be best to get a "topper" that may simulate smoke. IMHO that is not the case with the subtanks.

After one becomes a dedicated vaper then they can decide what functions or shapes they would like and invest in good chargers and mods where one changes the battery. I happen to like both ProVari styling, function and rock solid performance and reliability as well as small boxy mods. (I have a collection of both tubes and boxes). I also detest the bottom button styling of "mechs".

Keep in mind any physical difficulties your friend may have to hold a device or use the buttons.