Box mod without batteries
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How ugly do you want get and how important is portable? Something is going to stick out the end. 18650s are 3.7 nominal and range netween 4.2 and 2.5 depending on their charge level and what the cutoff of the mod is. You can get close to one Li 18650 with 2 consumer alkaline batteries. They won’t fit in the hole of course. So one way or another wires are going to be involved. This sounds like the makings of a truly nasty kludge. Are you sure you can’t wait?
What part of the world are you in? If you're in the United States, you can get there in a day or two.
You probably have at least a dozen 18650s in your home without knowing it. Not telling you anymore least you go boom!!!
You can't sub out an 18650 with an AA.There used to be a few mods that had USB ports on them that worked when plugged in. Dont know on that one.
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They usually require a live battery to operate though. There used to be usb 510 connectors with no battery at all that just ran off usb 5v. Haven’t seen one in a long time though. I really quite liked them.What part of the world are you in? If you're in the United States, you can get there in a day or two.
You probably have at least a dozen 18650s in your home without knowing it. Not telling you anymore least you go boom!!!
There used to be a few mods that had USB ports on them that worked when plugged in. Dont know on that one.
Not one AA no. AAs are ~1.5v. But if you do 3 you get 4.5 which is only a bit higher than 4.2. Like I said it will stick out. AAs I think are 2 to 0 whereas lithiums are 4.2-2.5. You may get 4.2-3 depending on where the mod cuts out. Using alkalines won’t stop it from cutting out though. Rechargeable AAs are often ~1.2 which is why some stuff designed for alkaline won’t run on them. 3 rechargable AAs works pretty well.What part of the world are you in? If you're in the United States, you can get there in a day or two.
You probably have at least a dozen 18650s in your home without knowing it. Not telling you anymore least you go boom!!!
There used to be a few mods that had USB ports on them that worked when plugged in. Dont know on that one.
18650s can supply a bunch of current. LOL like I said most people have 18650s in their homes.
Not one AA no. AAs are ~1.5v. But if you do 3 you get 4.5 which is only a bit higher than 4.2. Like I said it will stick out. AAs I think are 2 to 0 whereas lithiums are 4.2-2.5. You may get 4.2-3 depending on where the mod cuts out. Using alkalines won’t stop it from cutting out thoughWhat part of the world are you in? If you're in the United States, you can get there in a day or two.
You probably have at least a dozen 18650s in your home without knowing it. Not telling you anymore least you go boom!!!
There used to be a few mods that had USB ports on them that worked when plugged in. Dont know on that one.
im not saying the alkalines will last terribly long. They tend to have a high ma rating but if it’s tested to zero it won’t matter. My suspicion is 3 AAs will have about the same number of usable mas as 1 18650. Im not sure though. There is a reason non rechargeable batteries aren’t seen in things besides disposables. Even some disposables have lithium batteries which I think is terribly bad practice. All lithium batteries that aren’t recycled eventually catch fire. It might take 500 years, but they’ll do it. Recycling lithium batteries is critical.
The poster can buy 18650s on Amazon or eBay. Dont know about waiting for weeks.
"Speaking of lithium, I read today that a huge lithium deposit in Arkansas may have been discovered. The question is whether or not they can mine it easily.
They've created many alternatives to lithium batteries. I think the only thing holding them back is that people have invested so much money in lithium. They want a return before new technologies are implemented. Its like the oil industry. The value of many oil companies is based upon reserves in the ground. I know of a battery that can run a laptop for 10 years on one charge. All that stuff is still in the proof of concept phase.
Lithium is bad for many reasons --
https://www.bestmag.co.uk/lithium-i...terror-across-waste-and-recycling-facilities/
Horror Stories About Mining: Why we shouldn’t fast-track mining on public lands
"Speaking of lithium, I read today that a huge lithium deposit in Arkansas may have been discovered. The question is whether or not they can mine it easily.
They've created many alternatives to lithium batteries. I think the only thing holding them back is that people have invested so much money in lithium. They want a return before new technologies are implemented. Its like the oil industry. The value of many oil companies is based upon reserves in the ground. I know of a battery that can run a laptop for 10 years on one charge. All that stuff is still in the proof of concept phase.
Lithium is bad for many reasons --
https://www.bestmag.co.uk/lithium-i...terror-across-waste-and-recycling-facilities/
Horror Stories About Mining: Why we shouldn’t fast-track mining on public lands
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https://www.ufinebattery.com/blog/batteries-in-series-vs-parallel/
You need to consider --
OHMS law. What is the load in ohms? also voltage and current values.
How much voltage does it take to run the board? Most of the time this is a range of voltages.
Can an AA battery provide the necessary voltage and current to run the circuit?
Battery voltage and current values are engineered. That sounds odd until one considers batteries in parallel and batteries in series. 12 - 1 volt 1 amp batteries in series vs 12 - 1 volt batteries in parallel. One setup will give me 12v @ 1 amp, the other will give me 1v @ 12 amps.
My brain is not awake yet. Many other considerations, after I have had my coffee.
You need to consider --
OHMS law. What is the load in ohms? also voltage and current values.
How much voltage does it take to run the board? Most of the time this is a range of voltages.
Can an AA battery provide the necessary voltage and current to run the circuit?
Battery voltage and current values are engineered. That sounds odd until one considers batteries in parallel and batteries in series. 12 - 1 volt 1 amp batteries in series vs 12 - 1 volt batteries in parallel. One setup will give me 12v @ 1 amp, the other will give me 1v @ 12 amps.
My brain is not awake yet. Many other considerations, after I have had my coffee.
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No, I'm talking about needing one in a pinch. Trust me—many vape stores source batteries from eBay. Authentic 18650s are cheap in quantity. I do my best not to buy from vape stores, especially local ones. LOL, they charge 9or10 USD for an 18650. Somewhat more for a 21700. $20 or more for a bottle of juice. I'd trust them less now that vaping is declining. It may be best to find alternative sources as things get draconian. The old game of vape social media and vape shops used to play, claiming that vape bans were imminent to increase sales, is now happening for REAL. LOL! We went through this forum, and it was clear in hindsight. "Got to stock up!" Lost history of the 2010s! I was trying to increase beer sales back then. Things change. Most of the craft beer companies from that time are not even in business now. Beer, beards, and vaping are not so popular anymore.
I received 6 Molicel P28A 18650s for less than $20 shipped in two days. I've bought a lot of 3.2V LiFePO4s over the past few years, so I know a few good suppliers. @Mooch has been of great service to us. I saw he was still here.
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So you’re saying battery counterfeiting is dead now? I’m not so sure of that given the price difference between hi and low ma batteries is still over 200%. There’s just too much money there. For 5¢ and a tiny amount of labor you can triple the “value” of a battery.
I suspect many vape stores risk having counterfeit batteries Then. Try lion wholesale if nothing else it’s a mooch reccoendation from like ten years ago. It’s a wholesale place with a minimum order of one, so you can just buy stuff. And afaik all the stuff they have actually came from the manufacturer and it is what it says it is. They do a lot of bike stuff so I suspect it will be fine for a while. They can’t be shut down.
I suspect many vape stores risk having counterfeit batteries Then. Try lion wholesale if nothing else it’s a mooch reccoendation from like ten years ago. It’s a wholesale place with a minimum order of one, so you can just buy stuff. And afaik all the stuff they have actually came from the manufacturer and it is what it says it is. They do a lot of bike stuff so I suspect it will be fine for a while. They can’t be shut down.
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They're in business to make money. I only buy vape stuff once every three or five years. Next time I'm buying, it's going to be for making DIY juice, and that's it. I buy a lot of used products, as well as new ones to trade later on. I have alternate sources for cotton and wire. I honestly don't expect vaping to be a "thing" in 3 to 5 years from now. I would take a look at how few messages there are here from the past few years, versus 5 or 6 years ago. Go back to 2016 or 2017 versus now. LOL my daughter even sent me pictures of adults vaping from Facebook. They are titled "Grown Man Vaping". LOL I could care less as I vape for the most part at home. The tobacco companies are working on a new nicotine delivery system like a rescue asthma inhaler. Thats whats next, probably by prescription.
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Cheapest company I know of is flavorwest. They do candy flavorings. The problem with them is they DON’T pay attention to the oil thing because their flavorings are made for candy, so you can’t buy anything from them that could have an oil in it. No citrus, no mixed flavors, no buttery stuff. And even then it’s best to do a paper chromatography test to make sure. It’s so cheap that the juice used isn’t much. They will happily sell you cinnamon red hot or butterfinger flavorings. DO NOT VAPE THEM.
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You need to save the how-to's and the recipes you find here as PDFs. There are some super long super good threads I would save as well. Lots of trial and error stuff so you do not have to. There are 3 other DIY juice sites besides this one. 2 much smaller, and one maybe a third the size of this one. They just do DIY juice. There are several serious YouTube channels as well. YouTube is getting weird about vape stuff, may want to check them out. I have archived them in case YouTube goes censorship crazy.
Yes. You are on the right road. Wire and cotton are easy things to source. Stick with rebuildables. Learn about o rings and grub screws. Maintain your gear. I see stores unloading old RDAs for 10 dollars and I buy them up. Keep an eye out for vape stuff at estate sales as well. Even garage sales. Toss the juice and keep the hardware. Mechanicals are cool because they have no electronics to fry. Just maintain them.
Who knows. Vaping may make a comeback in 10 or 15 years. People may go crazy for vintage stuff.
Case in point. Someone gave me a box of old, beautiful dab stuff. Beautiful handmade polished wood and brass. LOL I sold them and made enough to re-up on my vaping stuff. It's almost a 100% break even but it's fun. Keeps me out of trouble.
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No idea where he ordered batteries from or to. Looks like another hit and run though.
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