Burning Cartomisers? Dangerous?-510/Kr808/4081...etc filler type cartos

[Alžběta Madragana]

Yea me too. Went for my evening walk and then chilled out at home. Drank some, got tipsy, vaped a lot, etc. Watched some Holiday movies: It's A Wonderful Life, Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation, and Scrooged. vaped some more.... booooooooring. But hey, at my age, I guess that's holiday excitement! heheheheee

 

[tiburonfirst]

lol, alz! boring is better than some other options!

 

[nicnac]

Happy 2015!

Hey it's 2015 and that bird looks dead. Time to change it.

 

[Alžběta Madragana]

haha yeah give that ole bird a good PV and get him (or her) started vaping. That'll wake the bird up! heheheeeeee laters... *toke*

 

[Katya]

Hey it's 2015 and that bird looks dead. Time to change it.

Say what????

Nicnac?!?!?!?!?! Where the heck have you been???? Welcome back!

 

[nicnac]

Say what????

Nicnac?!?!?!?!?! Where the heck have you been???? Welcome back!

Still alive. Haven't checked in ecf for a long while now (shame on me). Got into tanks for a while. broke my tank and now I'm into the RDAs. what are you guys vaping now days?
Like that new bird a lot. She looks very lively..

 

[Katya]

Still alive. Haven't checked in ecf for a long while now (shame on me). Got into tanks for a while. broke my tank and now I'm into the RDAs. what are you guys vaping now days?

We have pretty much moved from cartomizers to fillerless tanks. I like Kanger tanks--mostly Aerotanks. I'm looking into the new tanks with rebuildable coils, like Delta II and Subtank.

BR is still building his own cartos, though.

Most of the die-hard carto users use them in tanks to avoid burning.

 

[nicnac]

Aerotank. Got one of those. like it very much. It's pretty much a no brainer.
I think BR was a bootlegger in his time.

 

[tiburonfirst]

Still alive. Haven't checked in ecf for a long while now (shame on me). Got into tanks for a while. broke my tank and now I'm into the RDAs. what are you guys vaping now days?
Like that new bird a lot. She looks very lively..

that she is!

 

[Alžběta Madragana]

I do a few of those CE-5 cartos in tanks - the throwaway kind. My vape shop irritated me when I bought some replacement cartos for a 'rebuildable' tank and they didn't work. Fine. I'll buy elsewhere. But my primary go-to PV is still my Genisis Box Mod..

 

[Alžběta Madragana]

I happened across a new kind of tank called 'Switch' made by Wicked Vapour in the UK. Well, the tank connector looks the same til I got it home and then it's some kind of weird 2 posts and no damn way it will ever connect to my ego-T connector! Haha so I drained all the eliquid out of it and put it in my Genisis. It was OK. Nothing to write home about LOL! Yep, I believe I'll be a DIY vaper from here on out...

 

[tiburonfirst]

now you know better, alz! pics or it didn't happen!

 

[CES]

time to bring this thread back to my front page....

heya

 

[Katya]

It is indeed!

And where's BR???

Play ball!

 

[Alžběta Madragana]

Heheheheee was today super bowl day? I didn't even know. Guess it's coz I'm a NON-sports kinda person. My kids and ex are all sports FREAKS though... LOL! I'll try to get a pic up of that weird carto-tank in a day or so. Haven't spent much time online lately. I realized that 'social networks' aren't my bag. ECF and Google+ are the only things I ever post on anymore, and that's getting to be less and less..

 

[br5495]

I'm still around part time, but have been having my ups and downs. I had to go to the emergency room a while back and spent several days in the hospital. I came out with a drain in my back to my left kidney, so have another bag hanging off my body. No big deal. Been there, done that. Maybe I'll get rid of it later on.

Peggy was doing pretty good when I got out and had the cast removed from her foot the next day. They put her in a walking boot, which got her out of a wheel chair. Two days later I had to call 911 because she passed out and could not be completely revived. She then spent several days on the transplant floor in the medical center in Houston.

She was doing pretty good, but before her release she began having a problem with her breathing. This was caused by a childhood virus of some kind. She has no immune system because of her rejection medication and they had to move her to another room. This room is pressurized and sterile and no one is allowed in without wearing a mask, gown and other garb. She has been in this room for five days and receiving breathing treatments for 18 hours per day. I have not been able to visit her because I have been down with some kind of a bug and not allowed anywhere near this part of the building. However, I have talked with her each day by phone in between treatments and she is getting better. Maybe she will get out of this room today if she continues to get better. If so, she will be moved back to the transplant floor where all transplant patients go to. I'm feeling pretty good now so may be able to visit her in a day or two. Their concern is that her body will begin rejecting her lungs, but things are looking pretty good from that standpoint.

I ain't worried about it. She's been there twice before and got over it and she's gonna do it this time too. Peggy had a double lung transplant in 1996 and almost all others just get one. Only two people in the world have transplants prior to her, so she's pretty tough. Most others die within 6 or 8 years. Both of us plan on being around for a while.

I had a plastic rod chucked up in the lathe for building a new cartomizer befofe all this came about. Maybe I'll get bsck to it in a day or few.

 

[br5495]

The following URL is a recent article written January 22, 2015. It describes what happens with typical E-cigarette liquids when vaped at 4.8 volts and above. I don't know if this applies to all situations, but I would certainly give it some serious thought and further investigation if I vaped at these voltages

Formaldehyde:

Click on Figure 1 within this article for more information. (Adobe Flash Application)

Fortunately all my tanks were designed for low power and are operated at either 3.0 or 3.3 volts, depending on the coil resistances that are used. Therefore no Formaldehyde is formed at these voltages.

 

[Katya]

The following URL is a recent article written January 22, 2015. It describes what happens with typical E-cigarette liquids when vaped at 4.8 volts and above. I don't know if this applies to all situations, but I would certainly give it some serious thought and further investigation if I vaped at these voltages

Formaldehyde:

Click on Figure 1 within this article for more information. (Adobe Flash Application)

Fortunately all my tanks were designed for low power and are operated at either 3.0 or 3.3 volts, depending on the coil resistances that are used. Therefore no Formaldehyde is formed at these voltages.

Shame on NEJM for even publishing this nonsense. True, it wasn't published as a paper but as a letter, but still. Garbage.

It's been rebutted by everyone who understands e-cigs, including Dr. Farsalinos.

E-cigarette aerosol contains 6 times LESS formaldehyde than tobacco cigarette smoke

 

[Katya]

I'm still around part time, but have been having my ups and downs. I had to go to the emergency room a while back and spent several days in the hospital. I came out with a drain in my back to my left kidney, so have another bag hanging off my body. No big deal. Been there, done that. Maybe I'll get rid of it later on.

Peggy was doing pretty good when I got out and had the cast removed from her foot the next day. They put her in a walking boot, which got her out of a wheel chair. Two days later I had to call 911 because she passed out and could not be completely revived. She then spent several days on the transplant floor in the medical center in Houston.

She was doing pretty good, but before her release she began having a problem with her breathing. This was caused by a childhood virus of some kind. She has no immune system because of her rejection medication and they had to move her to another room. This room is pressurized and sterile and no one is allowed in without wearing a mask, gown and other garb. She has been in this room for five days and receiving breathing treatments for 18 hours per day. I have not been able to visit her because I have been down with some kind of a bug and not allowed anywhere near this part of the building. However, I have talked with her each day by phone in between treatments and she is getting better. Maybe she will get out of this room today if she continues to get better. If so, she will be moved back to the transplant floor where all transplant patients go to. I'm feeling pretty good now so may be able to visit her in a day or two. Their concern is that her body will begin rejecting her lungs, but things are looking pretty good from that standpoint.

I ain't worried about it. She's been there twice before and got over it and she's gonna do it this time too. Peggy had a double lung transplant in 1996 and almost all others just get one. Only two people in the world have transplants prior to her, so she's pretty tough. Most others die within 6 or 8 years. Both of us plan on being around for a while.

I had a plastic rod chucked up in the lathe for building a new cartomizer befofe all this came about. Maybe I'll get bsck to it in a day or few.

You guys are two tough cookies!

My regards to Peggy!

Take care, BR!

 

[tiburonfirst]

Shame on NEJM for even publishing this nonsense. True, it wasn't published as a paper but as a letter, but still. Garbage.

It's been rebutted by everyone who understands e-cigs, including Dr. Farsalinos.

E-cigarette aerosol contains 6 times LESS formaldehyde than tobacco cigarette smoke

easy now, tweety! br is right to be proud of his low-voltage vaping and dr farsalino was not able to rebut the findings when it came to high-voltage vaping

we still need to see the levels of carbonyls generated from high-power e-cigarette use (using appropriate atomizers of course),

After my comment, Prof Kunugita contacted me again. He mentioned that the newsmedia reports refer to a recent evaluation of a newer-generation device, in which he found 1600μg formaldehyde per 15 puffs. It is true that this level is 10 times higher than what is present in tobacco cigarettes.

while we might be confident vaping is the lesser evil it is still far from certain and we better stick to our low voltage approach

oodles and oodles of good wishes going br's and peggy's way!