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California Prop 56 - Hidden Vape Tax

Discussion in 'Legislation News' started by Haktuspit, Jul 22, 2016.

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  1. DC2

    DC2 Tootie Puffer Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 21, 2009
    San Diego
    The line never gets drawn because people aren't focusing on the core problems.

    Rather than drawing a line using logic...
    The line keeps getting moved further and further away from logic...

    It's all lies and an appeal to "feelings" these days.
     
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  2. zoiDman

    zoiDman My -0^10 = Nothing at All* ECF Veteran

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  3. DC2

    DC2 Tootie Puffer Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 21, 2009
    San Diego
    The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing
    --Not sure
     
  4. zoiDman

    zoiDman My -0^10 = Nothing at All* ECF Veteran

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  5. Alexander Mundy

    Alexander Mundy Ribbon Twister Verified Member ECF Veteran

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  6. Bill Godshall

    Bill Godshall Executive Director
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    The lowest wholesale price I've seen for a 60ml bottle of e-liquid is $7, and prices continue to decline.

    Vapor companies in CA that sell online will be decimated by the 68% tax (as CA vapers who buy online will begin buying from online retailers located in other states to avoid paying the CA tax).

    CA vape shops will face declining sales (as some/many of their customers will begin buying online from out-of-state companies, and some will buy concentrated nicotine e-liquid to mix themselves).

    The 68% tax will also reduces sales of cigalike e-cigs.
     
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  7. Hollywood puffer

    Hollywood puffer Unregistered Supplier

    Jul 11, 2013
    Los Angeles
    If you read Prop 56 before the election you didn't have to be Nostradamus to predict what was going to happen. So on November 9th we said "F.U.C.A." , shut down all business operations in California, and moved everything including ourselves to beautiful TAX-FREE NEVADA. If you're in the vape business you've got to be an imbecile to stay in that state.
     
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  8. Lessifer

    Lessifer Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Hopefully you at least attempted to mount some resistance before the vote. I'm not saying you didn't, I didn't see any organized resistance up in my neck of the woods.
     
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  9. zoiDman

    zoiDman My -0^10 = Nothing at All* ECF Veteran

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    Moving your business Out of CA and relocating to another State is Great. Until there are No States left to move to.

    Would have liked to seen More Retailers raising awareness about CA Prop 56. But is Was what it Was.

    And Now it Is what it Is.
     
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  11. sofarsogood

    sofarsogood Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Oct 12, 2014
    A possible caveat is the cost of making e liquid can be very low. So low that may be they could eat the tax and stay competitive with out of state sellers. I pay the usual consumer prices for my DIY. My cost of ingredients is 1.1 cents per ml. That cost reflects that I use only 1% flavoring but perhaps the larger volume e liquid businesses pay less for their ingredients than me. I do agree that a lot of the more successful e liquid makers will move out of state but isn't it also true that the tax will only be applied to in-state sales of if they have a large national market may be they aren't so effected after all.
     
  12. zoiDman

    zoiDman My -0^10 = Nothing at All* ECF Veteran

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    1.1 Cents per ml is Pretty Cheap for a Flavored e-Liquid.

    Seeing that I pay about 12 Bucks for a Litter of VG. And that comes out to 1.2 Cents per ml just for the VG.
     
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  13. ENAUD

    ENAUD falling, falling, down the rabbit hole... Verified Member ECF Veteran

    buy it by the Glycube from essential Depot and it can be as little as 12$ a gallon...
     
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