California vote on e-cigs coming--Gov. vetos--defers to SE v. FDA case
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Thanks! What better way to celebrate this victory than to place an order for my very first kit?!? 
That's freaking awesome!!!!
If this would have passed it would have opened the door to other states reacting in similar fashion............not to say they still won't though. What this does is give the industry more breathing room.
That being said I don't believe the next big decision will go our way and I believe the judge will rule in the FDA's behalf vs. Smoking Everywhere. Hopefully that will knock them out of business for good.
That being said I don't believe the next big decision will go our way and I believe the judge will rule in the FDA's behalf vs. Smoking Everywhere. Hopefully that will knock them out of business for good.
Un stick this bad boy the bill has been veto
To the Members of the California State Senate:
I am returning Senate Bill 400 without my signature.
While I support restricting access of electronic cigarettes to children under the age of 18, I
cannot sign a measure that also declares them a federally regulated drug when the matter is
currently being decided through pending litigation.
Items defined as tobacco products are legal for anyone over the age of 18. If adults want to
purchase and consume these products with an understanding of the associated health risks, they
should be able to do so unless and until federal law changes the legal status of these tobacco
products.
For this reason, I am unable to sign this bill.
Sincerely,
Arnold Schwarzenegger
To the Members of the California State Senate:
I am returning Senate Bill 400 without my signature.
While I support restricting access of electronic cigarettes to children under the age of 18, I
cannot sign a measure that also declares them a federally regulated drug when the matter is
currently being decided through pending litigation.
Items defined as tobacco products are legal for anyone over the age of 18. If adults want to
purchase and consume these products with an understanding of the associated health risks, they
should be able to do so unless and until federal law changes the legal status of these tobacco
products.
For this reason, I am unable to sign this bill.
Sincerely,
Arnold Schwarzenegger
I can't say we have won the war, but I can see I think we all kicked .... in this battle!
Can I get a Vape on that!
Can I get a Vape on that!
NO!!! Don't unstick it!!!
Sharky makes a really really good point here.
The veto can be overridden... 2/3 majority vote in the Assembly and the Senate. So... we need to make sure that the letters are now directed towards those on the fence who voted for the bill out of either sheer not knowing what it was really about OR being misled into thinking that the ecig is something other than what it is!!!
Props Sharky for pointing this fact out!
Sharky makes a really really good point here.
The veto can be overridden... 2/3 majority vote in the Assembly and the Senate. So... we need to make sure that the letters are now directed towards those on the fence who voted for the bill out of either sheer not knowing what it was really about OR being misled into thinking that the ecig is something other than what it is!!!
Props Sharky for pointing this fact out!
Not gonna happen. If they would have simply left it alone and stuck with the 18 year old restriction Arnold might have passed it I bet.
As it's currently written we don't have much to worry about. The republicans in the state won't go for it unless it's re-written and then it would likely have to go through the process again.
As it's currently written we don't have much to worry about. The republicans in the state won't go for it unless it's re-written and then it would likely have to go through the process again.
2/3 vote in California? You have a better chance of hitting the lottery...You can never say never but it is not likely that it will get over-ridden
This is great......congrads to everyone in California and to all who e-mailed the governator to help make this happen.
i will not be unsticking nothing here. i did not place the sticky so i will not be removing it.
i will say this. the Official Sb400 thread now is http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-california-sb-400-update-so-far-so-good.html any others maybe locked or merged into this one.
i will say this. the Official Sb400 thread now is http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-california-sb-400-update-so-far-so-good.html any others maybe locked or merged into this one.
And on that note there hasn't been a veto override in 30 years. It's not that it can't happen, it's just unlikely.
I would start to focus our attention on SJR 8 also created by our oh so favorite senator Ellen Corbett. You find info on it here
This women is hell bent on banning the ecig
I would start to focus our attention on SJR 8 also created by our oh so favorite senator Ellen Corbett. You find info on it here
This women is hell bent on banning the ecig
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