Can I put my artic tank on top of my Tugboat mod?

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This might be a dumb question, but I'm relatively new to vaping and I know there can be certain hazards so before I try anything I like to ask the guys at the shop first but didnt get a chance to yesterday. I bought an authentic tugboat mechanical mode that takes a single 18650... For batteries I typically use only NiteCore batteries, I find them to be the best, but am open to suggestions if you guys have any! But simply put my question is can I put my artic tank on top of it.. I've tried it with my Turbo Rda, Doesn't seem to hit very hard but the battery wasn't fully charged so going to give it a charge then give it a go again later.
 

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If the tugboat mod is a hybrid - meaning the pin on the atomizer comes into direct contact with the battery top - then no, the arctic tank should not be used with it. The center pin of the atty is far too flush and is not adjustable. I have never seen a tugboat mod up close and personal. It would be safe if the top cap has delrin insulation and a visible center pin (adjustable or not). But if all that you see on your mod is a threaded hole leading directly to the battery then you absolutely should not used the Arctic on it.
 
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If the tugboat mod is a hybrid - meaning the pin on the atomizer comes into direct contact with the battery top - then no, the arctic tank should not be used with it. The center pin of the atty is far too flush and is not adjustable. I have never seen a tugboat mod up close and personal. It would be safe if the top cap has delrin insulation and a visible center pin (adjustable or not). But if all that you see on your mod is a threaded hole leading directly to the battery then you absolutely should not used the Arctic on it.


Thanks man! Glad I didn't try it out because yes it does come in direct contact with the battery... Now i'm wondering if I should even be using my Turbo RDA by Tobeco because it doesn't have that little piece with the center pin separating it at all. Is this just hazard for the battery coming into too close of contact?
 

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The Tobeco RDA is probably ok to use. Most RDAs have protruding and adjustable centre pins. Make sure the centre pin on your RDA is screwed out reasonably so the housing of the rda never comes into contact with the battery. But again, I don't know which rda you are referring to exactly so maybe someone who is more familiar with the dripper you have will come along to advise you better.
 

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Your Turbo has an adjustable center pin. Just make sure that it is screwed out far enough that there is no chance of the ground touching the top of the battery.

(if you don't understand what I said, go outside and throw that Tugboat as far down the street as you can)

Yes you're right it does, didn't notice it until now.. screwed it a bit further out to make sure there were no issues. Can't wait to get the Mutation X V4 to throw on this now! It's a good thing I didn't have to throw the tugboat as far as I could because that would have been a waste of 100$ of this fine American made copper! :lol::lol: Cheers man!
 
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yah - to the best of my knowledge, the nitecore batteries are not high amp batteries and should definitely not be used for sub-ohm vaping

edit - hrm - seeing one nitecore 18650 variant that is labeled as 30amp cdr - not sure how accurate this is though... personally, sticking to sony vtc4 and samsung 25r batteries for my mods... going to poke around and see if there are any bench tests on them, though
 
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yah - to the best of my knowledge, the nitecore batteries are not high amp batteries and should definitely not be used for sub-ohm vaping

edit - hrm - seeing one nitecore 18650 variant that is labeled as 30amp cdr - not sure how accurate this is though... personally, sticking to sony vtc4 and samsung 25r batteries for my mods... going to poke around and see if there are any bench tests on them, though

Can't listen to everything the guy at the vape shop tells me, He told me these were by far the best batteries for mods! Definitely switching batteries now. Cheers man!
 

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Can't listen to everything the guy at the vape shop tells me, He told me these were by far the best batteries for mods! Definitely switching batteries now. Cheers man!
You are going to want a safe-chemistry, high-drain battery with a high CDR. How high? I'll quote @tj99959 as this is the practice I follow with regards to amps & headroom.

When considering how low you can build you need to give yourself some headroom. I try to never exceed 50% of the CDR (continuous discharge rating) of a fully charged battery (4.2v). So with a 20A battery, that would be 10A. This Ohm's Law Calculator tells me that a .4 ohm build is as low as I would want to use.

The reason that I place a 50% limit is because as a battery ages the mAh of the battery degrades, as the mAh degrades so does the batteries c rating (amp limit). So down the road, a 20A battery may only be a 10A battery."

I highly recommend you spend some time with @Baditude & @Mooch (two of our resident battery/safety experts) and visit their blogs. Make sure you purchase an ohm reader and a voltmeter or DMM so you can measure your builds, check for shorts and measure the remaining charge on your batteries.

Here are links to some of Mooch's blogs:
* No matter what is printed on the battery wrapper: There are no 18650 batteries with a genuine rating over 30A!
* Links to all his battery tests to date: List of My Battery Tests | Mooch's Blog
* Picking a Safe Battery to Vape With: Table of 18650 Battery Safety Grades | Mooch's Blog

Baditude's Blog - Table of Contents: The blogs that address battery safety, Ohm's Law, CDR (continuous discharge rating/Amps) and how they all work together are detailed below:

BATTERIES

Battery Basics for Mods - The Ultimate Battery Guide
* Another essential read to understand which batteries are safe to use in mechanical and regulated mods. Includes a frequently updated list of recommended safe-chemistry, high-drain batteries with their specifications.

Purple Efest Batteries not as Advertised
* A cautionary blog that reveals that the purple Efest batteries may not have the specifications advertised. Also includes a commentary on "continuous discharge ratings" vs "pulse discharge ratings" of battery specs.

OHM'S LAW

Ohm's Law Explained for Vapers
* My attempt at explaining Ohm's Law in layman terms and how it relates to vaping.

Explain it to the Dumb Noob: Ohm's Law Calculations
* As simple as it is to use, some people have a tough time grasping the concept. Warning: Includes graphic photos of mod explosions.

BATTERIES - WHERE TO BUY

Only buy batteries from a reputable supplier (not ebay or Amazon) as there are many counterfeit batteries being sold. Here are several reputable battery suppliers in the US.

* RTD Vapor
* Illumination Supply
* Lighthound
* Orbtronics
 

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Can't listen to everything the guy at the vape shop tells me, He told me these were by far the best batteries for mods! Definitely switching batteries now. Cheers man!

Having worked in a well-respected vape shop in 2014, I can tell you not all sales people know what they need to about batteries. :( Sadly, whatever battery happens to be in stock in the shop is called the best battery for your mod. They're only there to make a sale, and not necessarily looking out for your best interest.

I've been researching about mod batteries for over three years. In my blogs, I explain in detail how to choose the right battery for YOUR specific application.
 
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