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Gah. “Collectability”. I so hate designated collectibles as a concept. Artifact of going to art school I suspect. You really paid $150 for something you didn’t know anything about?
Well assuming it’s actually real, which I am not assuming myself considering the vast number of clones that exist, I’d say whatever you can get. Without a make and model that’s about all that can be said I think. If it is a clone, maybe $5-8?
Well assuming it’s actually real, which I am not assuming myself considering the vast number of clones that exist, I’d say whatever you can get. Without a make and model that’s about all that can be said I think. If it is a clone, maybe $5-8?
It would, until the battery went pop.
The picture is too small to see properly but that looks like a Rig Mod. Brand new V3s go for about $100-130.
How much is it worth? Whatever you are prepared to pay for it.
The picture is too small to see properly but that looks like a Rig Mod. Brand new V3s go for about $100-130.
How much is it worth? Whatever you are prepared to pay for it.
^ I think that's a little harsh.
If the OP feels that particular mod was worth the money, then that's money well spent. If the plan was to flip it for a profit, then perhaps some more research prior to buying it might have been a wise move.
If the OP feels that particular mod was worth the money, then that's money well spent. If the plan was to flip it for a profit, then perhaps some more research prior to buying it might have been a wise move.
I would suspect about like all items that are rare or collectible, their value is whatever someone is willing to pay for the item. Rarity does not mean desirability.
As an example, I have a Provari P3 leftover from a previous attempt to quit smoking back in 2014 (recent pic attached). At the time, these devices were considered the Rolls Royce of mods I have been told. ProVape has now bit the dust, and while I already have a new device and hardware, I decided to take it to an old shop that used to service them to get it back in working order to have as a backup.
I take it with me to shops sometimes since it is a conversation piece and people always want to check it out, but from a functionality standpoint I don't see the big deal. It's extremely underpowered by today's standards, the menu system is hardly intuitive, and it feels about like holding a police baton in my hand.
Is it valuable? I guess, but I suspect only to people that have never used one
As an example, I have a Provari P3 leftover from a previous attempt to quit smoking back in 2014 (recent pic attached). At the time, these devices were considered the Rolls Royce of mods I have been told. ProVape has now bit the dust, and while I already have a new device and hardware, I decided to take it to an old shop that used to service them to get it back in working order to have as a backup.
I take it with me to shops sometimes since it is a conversation piece and people always want to check it out, but from a functionality standpoint I don't see the big deal. It's extremely underpowered by today's standards, the menu system is hardly intuitive, and it feels about like holding a police baton in my hand.
Is it valuable? I guess, but I suspect only to people that have never used one
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No, provaris hold their value quite well, just check out some Ebay auctions. Usually, it's folks new to vaping who are buying them, and who are MTL vapers. I have spent a considerable amount amassing a provari stash. They may well be conversation pieces, but their value is still increasing not decreasing. There are enough current users who praise them to the skies, and I was lucky enough to be gifted one, and to me the vape quality was startling. It did make me want to try all of provape's offerings, and I have. I remain delighted and pleased. I wouldn't trade them for any other mod (within reason) even though the lack of temp control, well the wattage or voltage mode is so good, it is indeed worth it. Not to someone who wants a sub0hm TC vape, no. They are also elegant in design and fit well in the hand. That is the reason the market is still thriving. Quality is quality.
With that said, value is subjective. I could try to sell a provari on craigslist and not get any interest at all. Selling other places, probably more so. Etc.
However, I've also picked up a rather rare Mech Mod, for a great price. I don't know it's current "value" and a lot depends on the market and what someone is looking for at the time. I don't know that antique, beautiful mech mods maybe sell as much at the current time, given the fact that really a similar mech mod can be purchased new, for less, and may vape as well as or better than what I purchased, which *I* purchased because it was beautiful and I felt my husband might have liked it. Well he's still dual using on N2 tanks and not ready to attempt that yet. It had value to "me" for my reasons, and I did get it for a total steal (IMO). A lot of it is timing, where you choose to sell it and etc.
I don't consider any mods "collectibles" in the sense that I hope they will increase in value over time. I buy the mods *I* want to buy for the reasons I choose to do so but I never (although I have sold a mod here and there) never expect to make a "profit." It's really more about getting what you like and has value TO YOU. I don't know that "low serial" number means much, other than the mod was potentially used, by many users, which ALSO makes a difference.
Buy for what YOU enjoy and you will never be disappointed. If you are buying for resale, well, you have all the headaches of reselling, which can be a bit daunting. It's in theory possible that you may one day sell it and I guess THEORETICALLY you might even make a profit. But buying a mod for it's "value" well, for the most part, it's a bit like a car. The "value" drops the minute you drive it off the lot and what happens to it afterward is anyone's guess.
Best of luck,
Anna
With that said, value is subjective. I could try to sell a provari on craigslist and not get any interest at all. Selling other places, probably more so. Etc.
However, I've also picked up a rather rare Mech Mod, for a great price. I don't know it's current "value" and a lot depends on the market and what someone is looking for at the time. I don't know that antique, beautiful mech mods maybe sell as much at the current time, given the fact that really a similar mech mod can be purchased new, for less, and may vape as well as or better than what I purchased, which *I* purchased because it was beautiful and I felt my husband might have liked it. Well he's still dual using on N2 tanks and not ready to attempt that yet. It had value to "me" for my reasons, and I did get it for a total steal (IMO). A lot of it is timing, where you choose to sell it and etc.
I don't consider any mods "collectibles" in the sense that I hope they will increase in value over time. I buy the mods *I* want to buy for the reasons I choose to do so but I never (although I have sold a mod here and there) never expect to make a "profit." It's really more about getting what you like and has value TO YOU. I don't know that "low serial" number means much, other than the mod was potentially used, by many users, which ALSO makes a difference.
Buy for what YOU enjoy and you will never be disappointed. If you are buying for resale, well, you have all the headaches of reselling, which can be a bit daunting. It's in theory possible that you may one day sell it and I guess THEORETICALLY you might even make a profit. But buying a mod for it's "value" well, for the most part, it's a bit like a car. The "value" drops the minute you drive it off the lot and what happens to it afterward is anyone's guess.
Best of luck,
Anna
Always nice to have a different and well articulated perspective, and ProVape certainly has tons of fans which share your sentiments. My subjective views on the device are just far different, as I highlighted the sticking points on my device above. And yes, I am well aware they routinely sell for stupid money in certain venues, the P3 (which I was told was their last iteration) in particular. When I took it to the shop that did my firmware update for me, he was practically begging for me to sell it to him or to trade other items in the shop for it.
I suppose at the end of the day it all comes down to individual user preferences and what kind of cash flow they are working with. While rare, ProVari's are not impossible to track down, but they aren't cheap. Is the novelty, design, and built quality worth the money? For some people that answer appears to be "yes"!
The image below was posted on Reddit 3 years ago and apparently contains over $15,000 worth of mods and attys.
I believe the one in the box is one-off solid silver Caravella 003 with matching solid silver atty.
I've never been into high end authentic mods, but I would guess that they would be worth a fraction of that now.
Subjective worth is an interesting subject.
I believe the one in the box is one-off solid silver Caravella 003 with matching solid silver atty.
I've never been into high end authentic mods, but I would guess that they would be worth a fraction of that now.
Subjective worth is an interesting subject.
I happen to share Anna's perspective about the Provari, and yours too, believe it or not.Always nice to have a different and well articulated perspective, and ProVape certainly has tons of fans which share your sentiments. My subjective views on the device are just far different, as I highlighted the sticking points on my device above....
Is the novelty, design, and built quality worth the money? For some people that answer appears to be "yes"!I would suspect about like all items that are rare or collectible, their value is whatever someone is willing to pay for the item. Rarity does not mean desirability.
As an example, I have a Provari P3 leftover from a previous attempt to quit smoking back in 2014 (recent pic attached). At the time, these devices were considered the Rolls Royce of mods I have been told. ProVape has now bit the dust, and while I already have a new device and hardware, I decided to take it to an old shop that used to service them to get it back in working order to have as a backup.
I take it with me to shops sometimes since it is a conversation piece and people always want to check it out, but from a functionality standpoint I don't see the big deal. It's extremely underpowered by today's standards, the menu system is hardly intuitive, and it feels about like holding a police baton in my hand.
Is it valuable? I guess, but I suspect only to people that have never used one
I own three Provari's currently. The 2.5 version and a P3. I haven't used mine in a couple of years, because like yourself, my vaping preferences have evolved towards more powerful mods. So even though they are now "retired", I'll never sell them because I still respect their value as an icon of the past.
IMHO, the P3 was the worse product Provape ever made. It was fraught with bugs and glitches and just seemed to have been rushed onto market before it was ready. I was very disappointed as were many reviewers who had used a Provari as their daily driver (ie PBusardo).
With the Provari Radius box mod and the Provari Procyon tube, the Provape tradition that it worked so hard on returned. I never used or bought one of those but from all accounts these were stellar mods for their niche of customers.
Provape always appeared to cater to a certain niche of vapers: Low voltage/wattage and higher ohms vapers. Provape customers appreciated a device that was always dependable and reliable, accurate in power output (although arguably underpowered compared to other battery devices of the time), nearly indestructable, and offering industry-leading customer service. I and many other Provari owners believe it could provide a "smoother" vaping experience that could only be compared to a DNA regulated mod or a perfectly set up mechanical mod.
I just wanted to add my 2 cents worth.
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Got it for 150$ Seller said is rare because the number is low or something.
(Mod is production #24, dripper is 146)
It would be worth more if the atty & tube were the same number.
In reality it is worth whatever the scrap price of the metal it is made of is currently going for.
Rig clones vs 'real' are almost impossible to identify, there was at one time at least 6 different rig clones being made all with #'s, some shipped with bogus certificates of authenticity.
Even side by side near impossible.
But, it is worth every penny you paid if it is something you enjoy owning and wanted.
In reality it is worth whatever the scrap price of the metal it is made of is currently going for.
Rig clones vs 'real' are almost impossible to identify, there was at one time at least 6 different rig clones being made all with #'s, some shipped with bogus certificates of authenticity.
Even side by side near impossible.
But, it is worth every penny you paid if it is something you enjoy owning and wanted.
I think nostalgia and novelty are responsible for the continuing demand.
I wouldn't exactly call the market thriving though. These guys went out of business for a reason.
Car parts for saturns and pontiacs still have demand, and are bought/sold. But it isn't because the Pontiac Sunfire was an engineering masterpiece.
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Whatever you think about "nostalgia and novelty" is fine by me.
I'm not in the sub0hm group, the "car" has value to me, even if you don't believe it to be an engineering masterpiece.
They are no longer making the Austin Healey either. That is one hell of a great vehicle, and if I could afford one, I'd be buying one.
The reasons for PV going out of business are up for debate, and no one knows the full story other than the owners I think. Etc.
The problem is, provaris are rather durable, and that, in and of itself, causes a supply/demand problem, there's only so many PV a person "needs."
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate other mods, but I don't think your comparison to Saturns (always my least favorite car) is particularly apt, but hey if it suits you, fantastic. LOL.
Anna
I'm not in the sub0hm group, the "car" has value to me, even if you don't believe it to be an engineering masterpiece.
They are no longer making the Austin Healey either. That is one hell of a great vehicle, and if I could afford one, I'd be buying one.
The reasons for PV going out of business are up for debate, and no one knows the full story other than the owners I think. Etc.
The problem is, provaris are rather durable, and that, in and of itself, causes a supply/demand problem, there's only so many PV a person "needs."
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate other mods, but I don't think your comparison to Saturns (always my least favorite car) is particularly apt, but hey if it suits you, fantastic. LOL.
Anna
Welcome and glad you joined.
Might be a real collectible, I would not use it.
I happen to share Anna's perspective about the Provari, and yours too, believe it or not.
I own three Provari's currently. The 2.5 version and a P3. I haven't used mine in a couple of years, because like yourself, my vaping preferences have evolved towards more powerful mods. So even though they are now "retired", I'll never sell them because I still respect their value as an icon of the past.
IMHO, the P3 was the worse product Provape ever made. It was fraught with bugs and glitches and just seemed to have been rushed onto market before it was ready. I was very disappointed as were many reviewers who had used a Provari as their daily driver (ie PBusardo).
With the Provari Radius box mod and the Provari Procyon tube, the Provape tradition that it worked so hard on returned. I never used or bought one of those but from all accounts these were stellar mods for their niche of customers.
Provape always appeared to cater to a certain niche of vapers: Low voltage/wattage and higher ohms vapers. Provape customers appreciated a device that was always dependable and reliable, accurate in power output (although arguably underpowered compared to other battery devices of the time), nearly indestructable, and offering industry-leading customer service. I and many other Provari owners believe it could provide a "smoother" vaping experience that could only be compared to a DNA regulated mod or a perfectly set up mechanical mod.
I just wanted to add my 2 cents worth.
I still use mine just not that often. Some of the newer vape shops I have visited have no idea what it even is when I show it to them. I will say this much, It does replicate the cigarette smoking sensation in a more similar way. If you have the "Boost" engaged and take a nice long draw, it comes pretty damn close.
I also agree with Anna that the fact that they went bust is not an indication of a lack of quality. I would wager most of the most innovative products on the market in any industry are not widely popular. By and large products are designed for Joe Six Pack, not Joe Aficionado. There is also the fact that many people were not willing to shell out the money for one. The receipt was still in the box of mine after I rediscovered it in a filing cabinet. With the extender cap modification, and with tax, just shy of 340 bucks.
For reference, there are 2 P3's currently listed on Ebay, both around 300. I wish my car had that kind of resale value.
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Although I don't have authentic inside information, word of mouth is that Provape was quite disenchanted about the upcoming FDA Deeming Regulations. Provape had amassed dozens of model lines and/or accesories, many with different color schemes. According to the Deeming application process, each different model and each color of model would require approximately one million dollars per application. Some folks may not know it, but Provape was a very small manufacturing company. They had just built a new state of the art multi million dollar plant.
The owners were planning to retire and put Provape up for sale. Allegedly the owner of House of Hybrids (Zen) was interested in buying Provape, but because of fears of the upcoming Regulations and issues of obtaining loans, the prospective buyer(s) failed in being able to secure a loan to purchase Provape. Therefore, the owners retired and Provape closed its doors.
I so wish that Zen would approach Provape again (although perhaps it just can never happen). I am not a mech person, but I will admit to being tempted by some of those tubes especially the decorated ones. Maybe one day, LOL. But I would have LOVED to see House of Hybrids take over provape and continue innovation with what they began.
I will pay a fair amount for something I really, really want. I'm still saving money, and I have more than enough Provape stuff to meet my needs.... But seeing provape quality gear continue and improve and etc.--- that would be so awesome and you KNOW HOH would've done amazing stuff.
Sigh, such is life, and I am happy with all my Austin Healey's I've collected that is for sure. Apart from nic, probably my most expensive purchases, vape wise. I regret not a single one (although, I'm also not about to buy more, I don't think. LOL.
Anna
I will pay a fair amount for something I really, really want. I'm still saving money, and I have more than enough Provape stuff to meet my needs.... But seeing provape quality gear continue and improve and etc.--- that would be so awesome and you KNOW HOH would've done amazing stuff.
Sigh, such is life, and I am happy with all my Austin Healey's I've collected that is for sure. Apart from nic, probably my most expensive purchases, vape wise. I regret not a single one (although, I'm also not about to buy more, I don't think. LOL.
Anna
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