Can we still buy diy online?

[Krazys karma]

I never bought from liquid barn..haven't heard anything negative lately.

Ok ty. I'm new to this but I plan on sticking with it. I don't even really no what size of vg I should get. I no I only need about half of the pg. Like if I was to get say 1000ml of vg I only need 500pg and I just want 100mg nicotine not a salt nic. I've tried to add it up like if I made it by 100ml bottles. But my plan is to make a few 15ml or 30 ml so I don't waste it and when I get a few flavors I like and that are good I was gonna make a few good size batches and just fill up a 60 ml bottle from time to time as I need it. I don't no if that's a good way to do it or not. I don't want to make the stuff every other day. Like I said I'm a newbie

 

[Dudeman]

Pro-tip: Mix a liter of you're preferred nic level/PG/VG% at a time. Then when it's time to mix some juice, you only have to measure flavor(s). Then just dump in the premix and shake. Saves a lot time and effort especially when testing new flavors.

I hated mixing juice until I started doing it this way.

 

[Krazys karma]

Pro-tip: Mix a liter of you're preferred nic level/PG/VG% at a time. Then when it's time to mix some juice, you only have to measure flavor(s). Then just dump in the premix and shake. Saves a lot time and effort especially when testing new flavors.

I hated mixing juice until I started doing it this way.

Thanks I would have never thought of that. But it sounds like a great idea and that's what I'm ordering my first time 2 x 500 ml bottles=1 liter, 500 ml pg and 100ml purnic 150ml. This is what I've came up with from river supply co. I was gonna go with liquid barn cuz I thought they was sold out but I was wrong. But I have been told on here that river supply co. Is having issues with there nicotine. So I'm not sure if I should go with river supply or liquid barn. Any suggestions? And thanks again for that tip I will definitely do it cuz I don't want to be mixing every other day. I am having trouble I made a new account and every time I try to sign in the captcha where you have to pic matching pictures to get in it's giving me a hell of a time. I can't get into the account . Am I the only one having issues???

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

I recently purchased a liter of 100mg/mL nic in PG from River supply and it is brownish/honey like in color.

mmmmmm. Honey

 

[Krazys karma]

mmmmmm. Honey

I dunno if you can see the pics of the nic I was sent but one of them looks like the color of mud the other looks about like a beer. He said he was not the only one who has had issues. But I tried to look it up on here before I order and can't find anything about it. But I'm new in here and still learning. But I want a nice clear nicotine I heard nic river nicotine was .
Was also told to go to liquid barn decisions decisions lol but I need to be getting the order in before it gets much later looking for flavors.

 

[Izan]

My most recent nicotine order was from Liquid Nicotine - Nicotine Salts | Liquid Nicotine Wholesalers I chose a liter (of stronger than 100mg/ml freebase) for about $125 shipped to a friend in the states. That should last my wife and I a bit over 12 years. I have at my disposal approx 17 years of nicotine in two, one liter bottles.

I'm new to diy so the only ones I plan on buying like 2oz or bigger is strawberry ripe and strawberry sweet oh I forgot vanilla bean ice cream I plan on getting about 10 15ml I found a few different strawberry recipes I'm gonna try.

As you progress, consider buying directly from the manufacturer.
For example if you love Sweet Strawberry (and who doesn't), 16oz direct from Capella will cost you about .11¢ per ml, (approx $1.65 per 15ml bottle) plus shipping.

I mix a liter of our ADV at a time and use 100ml of flavoring, 100ml of VG based nicotine and 800ml of 80% VG premix. I buy my premix locally when it is on sale for about $8.50 per liter. If I don't like the way the premix smells or tastes, I can find an alternative source easily. (I'm not stuck mixing with years old diluents)

Welcome to the fun!
Cheers
I

 

[Dudeman]

I dunno if you can see the pics of the nic I was sent but one of them looks like the color of mud the other looks about like a beer. He said he was not the only one who has had issues. But I tried to look it up on here before I order and can't find anything about it. But I'm new in here and still learning. But I want a nice clear nicotine I heard nic river nicotine was .
Was also told to go to liquid barn decisions decisions lol but I need to be getting the order in before it gets much later looking for flavors.

The problem comes from buying nic in the summer. Heat is a major contributor to oxidation. Sitting in a container truck at 90 degrees for a few days is bad news for nic. I try not to buy it if it's above 60 degrees out if I can help it. Otherwise, I usually buy nic from Nicotine Giant or My Freedom Smokes unless there's a good sale somewhere. (MFS has gone above and beyond for me a couple times so I try to give them as much business as I can).

BTW, amber color isn't bad but mud color could be, depending on your taste buds.

 

[Coyote628]

I'm in kentucky. I all ready plan on getting what I need from nic river or liquid barn. Thank you

I'm in Kentucky too, I have been ordering from river supply. No problem having stuff shipped here. And I just checked, river supply isnt out of nicotine.

 

[zoiDman]

I'm in kentucky. I all ready plan on getting what I need from nic river or liquid barn. Thank you

I have bought from both Nicotine River and Liquid Barn. I would Highly suggest going with Liquid Barn.

Or Heartland Vapes. Another Good source of Nicotine Base, Flavorings, Bottles, etc.

But whatever you decide on, I would do it Quickly. Like Tonight. Because we are in sorta a Limbo right Now of Can and maybe Can Not be sold.

And No On knows exactly How Long things might Last.

BTW - Liquid Barn has a Calculator that help estimate How Much Nicotine Base one might. Here is a Link ...

Vape Apocalypse Calculator

 

[Coyote628]

I have bought from both Nicotine River and Liquid Barn. I would Highly suggest going with Liquid Barn.

Or Heartland Vapes. Another Good source of Nicotine Base, Flavorings, Bottles, etc.

But whatever you decide on, I would do it Quickly. Like Tonight. Because we are in sorta a Limbo right Now of Can and maybe Can Not be sold.

And No On knows exactly How Long things might Last.

BTW - Liquid Barn has a Calculator that help estimate How Much Nicotine Base one might. Here is a Link ...

Vape Apocalypse Calculator

Everybody do the limbo. I ordered another mod last night. And the huge tax hasn't passed yet on nicotine so like you, I suggest getting it now while we still can. I have a good supply on hand and may just order another liter or two just to be sure.

 

[zoiDman]

Everybody do the limbo. I ordered another mod last night. And the huge tax hasn't passed yet on nicotine so like you, I suggest getting it now while we still can. I have a good supply on hand and may just order another liter or two just to be sure.

Just about any Legislation will have some Time Period before it goes into effect. So even if it Passed in this Congressional Session, and the President didn't Veto it, I think it likely wouldn't go in effect for awhile.

I'd be More Worried about the FDA getting a List together say'n what Can and Can Not be Sold right Now. Because Once Retailers have a Published List of what Can't be Sold, you're going to see Many Shops Closing.

And Supplies could get Tight as more Vapers Catch On as to what is Actually Going On.

 

[ShowMeTwice]

My local shop who carries pg and vg I don't care for. Liquid barn I think is way cheaper but I don't want to pay shipping and handling to a bunch of places.

Bulk Apothecary sells excellent VG/PG. They are in Streetsboro, Ohio. BA also supplies many around the country. There are only a couple major suppliers of VG/PG and BA is one of them.

VG: Glycerin

PG: Propylene Glycol

I always buy both by the gallon but they do sell both in 16oz bottles.

As for nicotine, take a look at Nude Nicotine (Cali). I've been buying their nic for years and have never received bad product from them. It's always clear. Recently I opened one from 5 years ago, it was very clear (like filtered water clear).

Good luck with whatever route(s) you choose.

 

[ShowMeTwice]

I will be ordering some of my flavors from nicriver I no last night they was still running a very good sale.

NicRiver, now River Supply, carries some flavors other places do not offer. Not one online store carries all flavors by all flavor houses.

Many here buy flavors from Bull City Flavors out of Morrisville NC. They carry most flavors by the popular flavoring companies.

Bull City Flavors - Best Prices on Flavoring

If you subscribe to their newsletter you will receive notifications of their sales. They do run sales regularly.

 

[ShowMeTwice]

Like I said I'm a newbie

There is an excellent DIY getting started cheat sheet in PDF format with much useful info here: DIY Getting started cheat sheet - good information gathered from ECF

Also tons of great and helpful info throughout DIY E-Liquid

Our @Zazie has a blog with links to some great ECF created DIY recipes. You may find those helpful. Being an Index of Recipes in the "Random DIY mixing and More" and "Liquor Flavors?" Threads | E-Cigarette Forum

 

[Krazys karma]

I'm in Kentucky too, I have been ordering from river supply. No problem having stuff shipped here. And I just checked, river supply isnt out of nicotine.

I no there was sight gave me the blues for hours today. I don't no what was wrong but I finally got in to where I could place a order and saw everyone's oppenion so to be honest with me being new to all of this I was up all night last night trying to get together a list of flavors that I want to buy and the quantity because I've already spent about $400 on coils and Juice in a bottle that I normally Vape. I was just going to get 500 mL of PG and a liter of VG + 100 milligram 150 ml nicotine from nicotine River and finally I dozed off sitting here reading comments so when I open my eyes I found about 10 new comments so I am confused as hell on what to buy or where to buy from because I ended up changing my mind and going with a leader of PG a gallon of VG and 100 mg nicotine 150 ml bottle and I was just going to use nicotine River because of so there was a really big price difference in liquid Barnes VG compared to nicotine River. Nicotine River I can get double the amount of VG for what I can at liquid Barn. I need to just stop messing around and try to get this order placed before midnight I don't think nicotine River chips anything out on Fridays though is what I read on their site. So if they do pass this ban will they still be allowed to sell VG and PG? And bottles of nicotine and flavors like capella, flavor West, the flavor Apprentice sorry I'm rambling I'm sure you get the picture. I know they can probably still get away with selling VG and PG fand the flavors because it can also be used for other things but like a boy about 7 packs of coils because they are cheaper online I don't know what all they plan on Banning if they plan on Banning it all or Banning online trying to keep up with all this stuff in the Vape World is sometime overwhelming. I don't know why they don't just leave us the hell alone it's safer than smoking cigarettes and I was a 20 2 year smoker and I have been vaping for about 4 years now. I finally got tired of spending $35 on a hundred ml bottles of juice from my local vape shop and $25 for a pack of coils so I'll finally about two months ago went to online and started buying my juice like that but if I go outside of wood I'm used to vaping I always end up not liking what I have bought. I like strawberry, with like a vanilla bean ice cream with like a Graham crust or a sugar cookie I cannot stand custard so I end up wasting more vape juice then I get to vape normally. I'm a big Vapor of tailored house strawberry Crunch and they went out of business I couldn't find any of their juice fix it strawberry crunch in a zero so I bought like eight bottles of it and I figured I could add nicotine to it and that would get me by for a little bit and I got to thinking to hell with this I'm just going just start making it myself I found a really good recipe from a guy online I think his name is jfm development something like that but he had really good reviews on his strawberry crunch he also has a YouTube page and he has a lot of strawberry and cream, strawberry milkshake, strawberry cheesecake type of recipes that people like and I have found others so that's what I plan on trying to make I love strawberry at least if I'm trying to make it myself if I don't like it I can add to it and at least try to make it vapable instead of it just sitting there like I took a chance on beard number 5 well big mistake it was way too strong for my taste. Anyways sorry for such the long message and thank you for the info now I just need to make up my mind who I'm going to order from I was going to go with liquid Barn until I seen that there VG was double the price of nicotine River and now I have other people telling me to try this place for that place and I greatly appreciate it now I'm even more confused on who to order from I even had thought about ordering my VG and PG from nicotine River and ordering my nicotine from liquid Barn. I've Heard nude nicotine is good but it has more of a harsher throat kit and I don't like that I don't know how true it is. I know that I have about seven more people to reply to but I hope they all see this message because I'm sort of really talking to everyone everyone is being so helpful and nice I didn't expect to get this kind of reaction because I had been online for a few days looking for someone to get info from finally I found the efo forum and I got to post what I actually needed to know and everyone has came through. Again thank you very much and sorry for such the long message you I hope everyone who has replied to me reads your message. I'm not kidding this stuff is a lot to take in especially for a newbie. And then I got to stressing over a digital scale I don't have a big one like I have seen But I do have a digital scale and it is in grams ounces, CT and DWT so hopefully it will work it goes up to 500 I put my heaviest mod on it that holds 4 batteries and it said it weighed 4.65 in something grams I know that my digital scale on the front says compacity 500g X 0.1 G it is a digital pocket scale model us stinger and it says tested to comply with FCC standards it's about the size of a cell phone before they got like five point 7 in and bigger it fits in the palm of my hand I hope that's okay because I really don't want to spend 20 bucks on another scale I really don't even know if I need to buy syringes and all of that stuff I was going to break down and buy a couple of glass cylinders and I was going to get one of those little handheld mixers if they wasn't very expensive. I was planning on spending around $100 to start out I didn't want to spend a bunch of money and then me and up not knowing what I'm doing but I learned like what cat stands for TFA what it stands for Exedra and I have it all wrote out just in case I forget. okay I'm going to say thank you all and read the other five or six messages that have came in. so now I just need to decide where to get my nicotine I think I'm going to get the VG and PG from nicotine River because the VG is like half the price of what liquid Barn is charging I've also seen that a few people have posted I think about Heartland decisions decisions and I thought it was complicated just figuring out 100 mg nicotine 150 ml I picked a PG base I really don't know the difference in a PG VG base when it comes to nicotine but I've saw in all of the recipes I've looked at that it calls for PG nicotine 100 mg wow I still have so much to learn. thankfully that's what you guys are here for. And I hadn't thought about buying directly from like capella I did see where you had wrote where it was way cheaper to buy it that way. Okay so if anyone has a opinion on the best place to get nicotine I guess I can split that up from the VG and PG I just want a good nicotine that I can't really taste and the ones that are on here from Kentucky I don't want to say the name of the shop but it starts with a v and in with a l I don't want to be disrespectful and put their name on here but I can't stand there juice and I think it's the nicotine in it that they use maybe it's just the cheap flavors I don't know but I know I don't like it. So whatever nicotine that isn't harsh and does not turn my juice a dark brown I guess is who I need to order from everyone has gave me such good advice and has so many opinions so now I just need to figure out the nicotine and get the rest of my flavors together again thank you all so much

 

[Krazys karma]

There is an excellent DIY getting started cheat sheet in PDF format with much useful info here: DIY Getting started cheat sheet - good information gathered from ECF

Also tons of great and helpful info throughout DIY E-Liquid

Our @Zazie has a blog with links to some great ECF created DIY recipes. You may find those helpful. Being an Index of Recipes in the "Random DIY mixing and More" and "Liquor Flavors?" Threads | E-Cigarette Forum

Yes thank you so much for the links anything will be greatly appreciated like I said I'm a newbie anything any one thinks will help me I am more than willing 2 learn or go save the link I have a folder in my phone for the DIY Vape stuff so I can easily find it when needed. Thank you very much

 

[vaper1960]

Didn't have time to read the entire thread, but my understanding is the Sept 9 deadline is nor for nic... BUT it could be heavily taxed (rumors) at any time... Like crazy taxes (don't ask... it's insane what might happen to nic prices)

 

[Krazys karma]

There is an excellent DIY getting started cheat sheet in PDF format with much useful info here: DIY Getting started cheat sheet - good information gathered from ECF

Also tons of great and helpful info throughout DIY E-Liquid

Our @Zazie has a blog with links to some great ECF created DIY recipes. You may find those helpful. Being an Index of Recipes in the "Random DIY mixing and More" and "Liquor Flavors?" Threads | E-Cigarette Forum

Thank you so much for all of the links anything you give me I will be more than happy to use and look at I have a folder on my phone that I put my DIY stuff in and I can save the link that you put on here to my home screen and then drag it to my folder thank you very much I'm sure it will come in very useful. Right now if I could just make up my mind on who to order my VG and PG and my nicotine from I would be doing big things. was going to go with nicotine River but I've heard that there nicotine has had a few issues but their VG juice is so much cheaper than liquid Barn I guess I could get the VG and PG from nicotine River and the nicotine from liquid barn and my flavors from nicotine River as well. Thank you again and you have a good night much appreciated

 

[Krazys karma]

I have bought from both Nicotine River and Liquid Barn. I would Highly suggest going with Liquid Barn.

Or Heartland Vapes. Another Good source of Nicotine Base, Flavorings, Bottles, etc.

But whatever you decide on, I would do it Quickly. Like Tonight. Because we are in sorta a Limbo right Now of Can and maybe Can Not be sold.

And No On knows exactly How Long things might Last.

BTW - Liquid Barn has a Calculator that help estimate How Much Nicotine Base one might. Here is a Link ...

Vape Apocalypse Calculator

Thank you so very much for the info I'm sorry it is taking me a minute to get back with you I fell asleep and I'm trying to respond to other people as well I left a really long post just while ago and I was hoping like everyone would see it that has messaged me in the last few hours. So used to just going with liquid Barn would that just be for the nicotine? I asked that because nicotine River they have their VG for half the price that liquid Barn does and that's the only reason I'm asking. I think I can get like a gallon from Nic River for about $11 where liquid Barn wants to charge I think 13:4 1000 ml if I'm not mistaken the price of the nicotine is about the same. I just want a good clean non harsh nicotine that is not going to make my juice taste awful I've been down that road before with buying from local vape shops that mix in the shop and it was just a waste of money. Thank you again you all are being so helpful but I will get my order together tonight and get it sent out every time I get ready to do it someone else leaves me a comment and pulls me in a different direction I wouldn't be so indecisive if this was not my first time ordering. But a lot of people has suggested Heartland or liquid Barn others his suggested Nic River I guess to each their own I've just heard good things about nicotine River but now that I've been reading up on the stuff and I watch them videos and stuff like that it's sort of pulling me in different directions I just need to get it my order sent out like ASAP not to mention sitting down and going through the flavors. I also need to get a little mixer and I guess some syringes and glass cylinders is all that stuff a really must have or does it just make it easier on the person making the juice? Just wondering

 

[ShowMeTwice]

So if they do pass this ban will they still be allowed to sell VG and PG?

Yes, we will be able to buy VG/PG. Both have many many uses besides DIY juice.

tailored house strawberry Crunch

There are DIY clones of Strawberry Crunch (<--- link). The top one has many fans. But there are others.

I've Heard nude nicotine is good but it has more of a harsher throat kit and I don't like that I don't know how true it is.

Nude nicotine has no more, or less, throat hit than any other nic.

I was going to get one of those little handheld mixers if they wasn't very expensive.

I use this one. Works great. https://www.amazon.com/Badger-Air-Brush-Co-121-Paint/dp/B000BROV02

I really don't know the difference in a PG VG base when it comes to nicotine

PG based nicotine is much easier to work with. VG being thicker can be more difficult for some.

So whatever nicotine that isn't harsh and does not turn my juice a dark brown

Nude nicotine isn't harsh. It is always crystal clear.