Can you guys help me?

[JenJen]

Could be PG allergy or sensitivity though. I know when my allergies flare up, I can get vertigo from the fluid building up in my inner ears. I didn't get that she was vaping all that much to get nicotine poisoning. I think KC and Phoenix would be dead since they are both considering having their VK surgically joined to their lips.

Hard to say, but PG has caused allergic reaction in some people.

 

[bitey]

You guys are way too nice I found some on the vapornine site and I belive I found some VG juice in 3 ml sample bottle on vermont vapor's site I am going to give that a try but thank you so very very much for offering! You all are the BEST!

Unfortunately, I am also extremely sensitive to PG. I have not used juice with PG for quite a while because of this.

Johnson Creek no longer carries VG juice because they changed their formula in an attempt to please the FDA. They have "PG reduced" which is still way too high in PG for most of us who are sensitive to PG.

In addition to the sites mentioned (JuiceLiquid, eliquidplanet, innovapor, vtvapor), you can also get VG based liquid from liquidxpress. Here is a word of warning for you, however. A lot of these sites use VG base, but then use flavors that contain some PG. Personally, I cannot use them without triggering intolerable symptoms.

You need to know this because you could think you are using VG juice and still have symptoms, so you need to be careful.

Vermont Vapor uses VG base, but only some of their flavors have no PG. I'm not sure I'm remembering them all, but Vanilla, Maple, tobacco flavors, chocolate mint, I know are ok. Some of their flavors have PG including Blueberry, apple pie, and more I don't remember. You can email them and ask and they will tell you.

JuiceLiquid has classic flavors that contain PG n the flavoring and Juicy Flavors that contain no PG, but smell perfumery to me (but probably not to everyone since we are all different).

Innovapor and cignot have very limited flavors, but you can get unflavored and flavor it yourself. Be careful - most flavors contain PG including Lorann's and capella. I am still searching for flavorings without PG because almost all of them have it.

Liquidexpress has small amounts of PG in the flavoring (some are too much for me).

I am currently using the VG juice from eliquidplanet and am doing fine with it. They are supposed to be getting more flavors in VG, but we have been waiting for over 2 months for them to get them in stock. This is not a knock against eliquidplanet because they are trying hard to get them and really care about the VG users.

Personally, I wouldn't get this type of ecig until I could get blank carts because even with the rinsing out process, I couldn't be sure of removing all of the PG and just a little tiny bit triggers my symptoms. When I buy an ecig that comes with carts filled with PG, I throw them away unless I can completely dismantle them and thoroughly wash and dry them.

Good luck in your search. Be sure whatever you buy has no PG in it (ask questions of the sellers beyond what it says on the Web site). Be sure the owner of this site gets only VG carts with No PG in the flavoring. Otherwise, you won't know why you are still feeling bad. Lorann's flavoring has too much PG for a lot of us to tolerate.

I know it is a lot more work to have to search this stuff out and mess with it but don't stop vaping and go back to analogs. I still do a very few analogs a day and want to drop them soon but I must vape more to do this. I think the eliquidplanet liquid may well let me do this. Good luck.

 

[JenJen]

Thanks for all the great info Bitey!

 

[booboo]

This is also the reason I don't use my vapor king. Great product and seller, but I can't take the pg (even rinsed out). To save you the trouble and money, the only pure vg formula that works decent that I have found is juicy juice (NOT Classic juice) from Juicyiquid Juicy JuicePaks : JuicyLiquid.com, DIY E-Liquid and Accessories! .
No offense to anyone else, but it is what it is. Glad to hear V4L is working on vg carts though! Been waiting a loooooooong time!

 

[JenJen]

This is also the reason I don't use my vapor king. Great product and seller, but I can't take the pg (even rinsed out). To save you the trouble and money, the only pure vg formula that works decent that I have found is juicy juice (NOT Classic juice) from Juicyiquid Juicy JuicePaks : JuicyLiquid.com, DIY E-Liquid and Accessories! .
No offense to anyone else, but it is what it is. Glad to hear V4L is working on vg carts though! Been waiting a loooooooong time!

He is getting blank carts next week (God and Customs willing) and I am looking forward to trying the vg carts also! Fortunately for me, PG suits me fine.

 

[Cimyss]

Burning sensation in the mouth and throat, salivation, nausea, abdominal pain, vomiting and diarrhoea. Gastrointestinal reactions are less severe but can occur even after cutaneous and respiratory exposure. .

I had none of these symptoms

I really wasn't abel to vape . I maybe had 10 inhails all day on a 6 mg coffee cart and maybe 5 analogs
I could feel it pick right back up after only taking one or 2 inhails I would have to put both the E cig or the analog cig down and the effects woudl last 3 to 6 hours or sometiems longer that day. The analog cig didn't make it worse really except how it does when you have a migraine anyways.Iit was the disembodied feeling I could feel more like after the vape inhail, A feeling that my ears needed to pop but couldnt and kinda like swimmers ear minus the ear ache. I am not allergic to many things except opiates in any form so I really didn't think I would be someone who would have a reaction. And the amount of liquid was nothing more then a small inhail on my lips from 6 mg so I really don't think it woudl be nicotine OD or the Analogs would have made it worse instead of the Vapeing.
For the present I have gone back to the analogs
My order should be in on wed with the VG from vermont vapors
and I plan on using boiling water and perhaps a tiny bit of some dish soap to cut the oil then another boiling water rinse then I will let them dry good and see how it goes from there. Hopefully the 15 or so carts I have will last until I can get some blanks by wednesday as well ( this is all pending on timely delivery ) by then Steve will have some I am praying!
Thank you all for being so helpful I really appreciate it! AND any and all advice and tiip are very welcome indeed!

 

[azvagabond]

I had none of these symptoms

I really wasn't abel to vape . I maybe had 10 inhails all day on a 6 mg coffee cart and maybe 5 analogs
I could feel it pick right back up after only taking one or 2 inhails I would have to put both the E cig or the analog cig down and the effects woudl last 3 to 6 hours or sometiems longer that day. The analog cig didn't make it worse really except how it does when you have a migraine anyways.Iit was the disembodied feeling I could feel more like after the vape inhail, A feeling that my ears needed to pop but couldnt and kinda like swimmers ear minus the ear ache. I am not allergic to many things except opiates in any form so I really didn't think I would be someone who would have a reaction. And the amount of liquid was nothing more then a small inhail on my lips from 6 mg so I really don't think it woudl be nicotine OD or the Analogs would have made it worse instead of the Vapeing.
For the present I have gone back to the analogs
My order should be in on wed with the VG from vermont vapors
and I plan on using boiling water and perhaps a tiny bit of some dish soap to cut the oil then another boiling water rinse then I will let them dry good and see how it goes from there. Hopefully the 15 or so carts I have will last until I can get some blanks by wednesday as well ( this is all pending on timely delivery ) by then Steve will have some I am praying!
Thank you all for being so helpful I really appreciate it! AND any and all advice and tiip are very welcome indeed!

Just worried about anyone who claims sensitivity to PG and going back to analogs...PG is an additive used in all tobacco products and many cke icinings and candies.

Cigarette Ingredients | Tobacco Ingredients

 

[nebraskapuffer]

Hey Cimyss
If you contact rob@liquidxpress.com and explain everything to him I know he would be more than willing to do what he can to help. He's an excellent supplier and if I understood him right when I talked on the phone with him he has experiance in the medical field. I'm not telling you what to do but I highly suggest contacting Rob. I hope the very best for you Cimyss.

 

[SMILIN]

I had none of these symptoms

I really wasn't abel to vape . I maybe had 10 inhails all day on a 6 mg coffee cart and maybe 5 analogs
I could feel it pick right back up after only taking one or 2 inhails I would have to put both the E cig or the analog cig down and the effects woudl last 3 to 6 hours or sometiems longer that day. The analog cig didn't make it worse really except how it does when you have a migraine anyways.Iit was the disembodied feeling I could feel more like after the vape inhail, A feeling that my ears needed to pop but couldnt and kinda like swimmers ear minus the ear ache. I am not allergic to many things except opiates in any form so I really didn't think I would be someone who would have a reaction. And the amount of liquid was nothing more then a small inhail on my lips from 6 mg so I really don't think it woudl be nicotine OD or the Analogs would have made it worse instead of the Vapeing.
For the present I have gone back to the analogs
My order should be in on wed with the VG from vermont vapors
and I plan on using boiling water and perhaps a tiny bit of some dish soap to cut the oil then another boiling water rinse then I will let them dry good and see how it goes from there. Hopefully the 15 or so carts I have will last until I can get some blanks by wednesday as well ( this is all pending on timely delivery ) by then Steve will have some I am praying!
Thank you all for being so helpful I really appreciate it! AND any and all advice and tiip are very welcome indeed!

man, what a bummer, being sensitive to PG, my Brother is, as well. The good news is, I will be testing some VG carts later this week, and, If you need, I can send you 901 atomizer, which works well, on all V4L VK products.....I just, do not have the VG juice, at this time.

We will getcha vapin happily again soon

Steve

 

[Cimyss]

Just worried about anyone who claims sensitivity to PG and going back to analogs...PG is an additive used in all tobacco products and many cke icinings and candies.

Cigarette Ingredients | Tobacco Ingredients

Since I have had this kind of reaction will I now not be abel to eat cake ? This would suck!

 

[Cimyss]

Just worried about anyone who claims sensitivity to PG and going back to analogs...PG is an additive used in all tobacco products and many cke icinings and candies.

Cigarette Ingredients | Tobacco Ingredients

Since I have had this kind of reaction will I now not be abel to eat cake ? This would suck!

THanks Bitey for all the awsome Info! this helps tons!

Steve THANKS! for offering the 901 atomizer. I was abel to get some blank carts from vapornine
so I am going to try those and keep my fingers crossed your samples are awsome! I am so sorry your brother has the same problem ! it is not very convienient but atleast there is a solution Hint hint if you could get your suppliers to make VG cartomizers you would be a very rich man! I think all of us woudl prefer ready made cart to having to fool with mixing our own juice and trackign down a good supplier for ready made ones and blank carts!


Nebraskapuffer I I checked out LiquidXpress Hompage website but it doesnt show VG unless you want to mix it yourself I am really not into mixing myself but I sent rob an email though as you suggested maybe if more suppliers were interested in providing ready made VG juices and cartomizers this would not be so tough for the non PG users. THanks for the sugeestion!

I also ordered some juice from eliquidplanet because everyone says how weaksauce Vermont vapors juice is and how it doesn't wick well in the carts. Hopefully I will get something I can use

Kc0mp has been working on gettign the Greencig carts to wick the VG jucie for me so if All else fails I can adapt my VK to use those.

JenJEn thanks for the moral support! *hugs*

AZVagabond I understand where you are coming from and I am glad you out there makeing people question because nicotine posioning is something we should all be very aware of! Don't stop questioning peeps!

BooBoo hang in there Steve is on the case! Thanks for the advice about the juciy juice I woudl have chose them but I didnt want to spend 20$ on 1 flavor without knowing if I woudl like it I may just have to but i hope not, WIsh they sold VG samplers

Pheonix and Gib thanks for the offers of the carts and the moral support! you guys rock!

Kc0mp making a new toy just so I can vape *super hugs*

I love you guys! THanks so very much for being here for me through this!

 

[~Gazoo~]

I don't know how all this got started about VV not working well in cartomizers because it does and it vapes like crazy.... True...the flavors are a bit on the weak side in comparison to Steve's. But still satisfying. The only one I was dissapointed in was the Mocha...it tastes more like vanilla. The other 5 VV flavors I tried are all good. No special cartomizer or whatever is needed...

 

[Cimyss]

Not so much that it doesn't work as it doesn't work quite as well. Or so I have been told. Something about it being thicker and burning faster. ALthough It does produce alot of vapor, I have more of a chance of burning through carts, becasue it burns faster and that I will have to be more careful to stop vapeing at the slightest sign. I belive this is a tiny issue. Kc0mp found that the material inside a GC cart more then likely will allow the VV jucie to burn longer ( waiting to hear back from him on that) and that if I wanted to use those then I could somehow.
Sorry if I was misleading. I have no idea how well it will work but I am heartened by your review of it working great!
Thanks Gazzoo!

 

[~Gazoo~]

Cimyss, I wasn't referring to you specifically. My intention is to squelch the rumors that VV liquid doesn't work well in a cartomizer. I don't know why KC has so much trouble with it. Maybe VV changed the formula. I don't know but KC has stated it is good stuff and I agree.

I have refilled one of my blanks 4 times with VV. And its still just like new. One of the liquids was thick and didn't want to absorb. So I used the trusty plunger method..lol. Once the batting started to absorb the liquid, filling it was no problem. I do think it burns faster, but follow the normal precautions and you will not be burning up cartomizers...there is no more risk of that then there is with PG. To be honest, I didn't even know VV was VG until after I received it and tried it.

Now you may ask would I order from them again? The answer is yes. But only the Choco Mint and maybe the grape. I have not tried the grape but my roommate loves it. I have grape coming from Steve to try too.The mint was good and so was the vanilla. I really liked the flavor of the apple cinnamon too but that one fell on the very weak side and the mocha is a no no..IMO.

The bottom line is I have not had any issues using any of the 6 VV flavors I tried in a cartomizer. Hopefully you will get some blanks when Steve gets them back in...I am praying hard for that..lol. Do not be afraid to use a cartomizer with VV liquid or any other VG liquid. BUT VV is some good stuff all in all.