Canada Customs is outright lying now, but backs away QUICK when called on it!

[tygertyger]

Whoa! Called Canada Customs today to try to find out what's going on with a parcel they're sitting on. In the course of the discussion, I was asked about the contents. I told her it was personal vaporizer parts and accessories. She pressed for more details. I repeated myself adding that there was no liquids or nicotine in the parcel. She asked what "nature" of vaporizer. I laughed lightly and finally said "well in the simplest terms, it's e-cigarette stuff!" but again stressed there was no liquids or nicotine.

She stopped me right there and told me it was illegal to bring that in. That e-cigarettes are illegal in Canada.

I jumped on her. Informed her that was utter misinformation and that hardware, parts and accessories are PERFECTLY legal as was liquid containing no nicotine. *Only* the nicotine is barred from import which was why the parcel in question contained no such thing! I went on saying that there is no law barring me from owning, buying, or importing any of my tools and that in fact it is only a Health Canada advisory that bars the import of nicotine.

I took a deep breath and waited for the argument.

But there was none. She honestly just said "oh, ok" in a subdued voice and left it at that!! She went on to explain the usual time frames and process for parcels being cleared by Canada Post.

Talk about anti-climactic! But I still got off the phone just plain ANGRY. Tell me it's illegal will you? And hope I simply don't know enough to exercise my rights? grrrrr.....

The bad news is that my parcel is still in process and I have no idea when they're finally going to clear it and give it to me. *sigh* I really really really hope it shows up this week. There's stuff in there I wanted to be able to give to a smoker for Christmas

 

[Nubbie]

Glad to hear they are going to clear it. What a pain that they grabbed to begin with.

 

[tygertyger]

Welll actually, at no point did I get an answer about my parcel in particular. She ascertained that it would be Canada Post clearing it through Customs, and at that point she basically offloaded it as CP's problem. There is no legal grounds to refuse it, but until I have it, I can't rule anything out.

 

[the alchemist]

Electronic smoking products (i.e., electronic products for the vaporization and administration of inhaled doses of nicotine including electronic cigarettes, cigars, cigarillos and pipes, as well as cartridges of nicotine solutions and related products) fall within the scope of the Food and Drugs Act. All of these products require market authorization prior to being imported, advertised or sold in Canada. Market authorization is granted by Health Canada following successful review of scientific evidence demonstrating safety, quality and efficacy with respect to the intended purpose of the health product. This evidence is provided by the sponsor seeking market authorization. To date, no electronic smoking product has been authorized for sale by Health Canada.

To All Persons Interested in Importing, Advertising or Selling Electronic Smoking Products in Canada - Health Canada Notice 2009-03-27

 

[tygertyger]

Electronic smoking products (i.e., electronic products for the vaporization and administration of inhaled doses of nicotine including electronic cigarettes, cigars, cigarillos and pipes, as well as cartridges of nicotine solutions and related products) fall within the scope of the Food and Drugs Act. All of these products require market authorization prior to being imported, advertised or sold in Canada. Market authorization is granted by Health Canada following successful review of scientific evidence demonstrating safety, quality and efficacy with respect to the intended purpose of the health product. This evidence is provided by the sponsor seeking market authorization. To date, no electronic smoking product has been authorized for sale by Health Canada.

To All Persons Interested in Importing, Advertising or Selling Electronic Smoking Products in Canada - Health Canada Notice 2009-03-27

Until they come to my house and find cartos and tanks filled with nicotine, they can't state that I'm using nicotine in them. No one from Health Canada has rung my bell to date.

 

[IanK1968]

Ive had this argument several times with Customs, and they say its illegal, I told them it isnt and to quote me the law from the Law Society of Upper Canada, Quote me when the law was passed who signed the Law into effect. Well they say uhhhhhhhh just like Moose from the Archies. They said well we were told, I stopped them as asked by whom? they said Health Canada. I asked if he knew anything about Canadian Law, he claimed he did. I asked, can you quote me any law EVER that was passed without going threw Parliament and was created by Health Canada, he said again UHHHHHHHHHHH no. I asked is Health Canada allowed to enforce Laws they created? he said no. I said allrighty then, when can I expect my parcel to be cleared. He told me the usual mumbo jumbo, I checked the tracking 2 hours later and it was cleared. This is when they held a package of ikenvape attys. I think however im now flagged lol, things to me seem to be held alot longer then before.

 

[Royaldrunker]

i go down to my mailbox in the states every month, an pick up my e juice and rba and what have you

as long as i have my doctors prescription for nic juice its all good...and im talking 8-10 30 ml bottles...also e cig goods are duty free

cheers

 

[IanK1968]

This should appease HC lol

This is a parody/satire image manipulator This is not a real prescription

 

[SoUnique]

Hey Dr Ian, can I get one of those prescriptions please

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This should appease HC lol

This is a parody/satire image manipulator This is not a real prescription

 

[Krusin_]

Hey tyger, how did you know Canada Customs was holding your package? I'm waiting for a shipment from MBV, but I don't know where it is...

 

[Nubbie]

They let you know when they have grabbed it. How long ago did your package disappear from tracking Krusin?

 

[Nubbie]

How does one get a doctors note for ejuice, other than Ian's? Cause I don't want to know what you need to do to get his.

 

[IanK1968]

How does one get a doctors note for ejuice, other than Ian's? Cause I don't want to know what you need to do to get his.

LOL it was just one of those text to pic programs, no one will give you a prescription because no pharmacist has it, and no big pharma makes it and I hope it stays that way. it just HC's way of making it impossible to get e-juice. you hust by any e-juice from any supplier or reseller,

 

[Krusin_]

Ordered November 28, last seen in LA December 02. First-Class Mail International
I'm not worried yet, mostly curious.

 

[IanK1968]

it can take up to 4 weeks to clear customs, allthough not usually that long, it can be. Ive had stuff go threw in 2 hours and other stuff take 4 weeks

 

[tygertyger]

I just checked the tracking number at Canadapost.... it told me it's awaiting clearing...

 

[Krusin_]

How did you get a Canada Post tracking number from a US company?

 

[tygertyger]

I didn't. I used the tracking number that CHINA post issued. When it arrived in Canada and Canada Post took possession of it, it started showing up on their system.

 

[Krusin_]

Nevermind, apparently the tracking numbers are interchangeable from the USPS and Canada Post...I love google.

My bad, I assumed it was from the US. Thanks.

 

[Royaldrunker]

thats funny, you must be a doctor yourself to know this seeing customs was the ones that suggested i do this..

and yes my doctor did prescribe nicottene for e cig 30 ml 18-25 mg with 1 renewel ....customs doesnt care about the renewal or how many bottles as long as you have reciepts and not unreasonable