Thought i'd share this motivational news with my brothers and sisters of the constitutional republic.
Vaping - Canada.ca
Great news and an interesting read.
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Congrats to those in Canada! Hope the other countries will follow soon.
Not yet.
The same Bill empowers Health Canada to make a unilateral decision on flavours whenever they feel like it.
Just because there isnt a ban now doesnt mean there wont be. At the same time, theres nothing to stop provinces from banning flavours. Ontario banned all flavoured tobacco, including menthol.
Worst thing anyone can do is put their guards down on this or assume all is good because they read it on the internet.
Congrats! It's good to know that more established countries are accepting reality. When someone positions vapes next to cigarettes... just feels so corrupt, or stupid. I'm not sure if the third option is there at all
Not really losing money, the money would have otherwise been spent on healthcare here, kind of a moot point.
The treatments for various cancers/diseases caused by smoking cost our system pretty much the same as what they will lose in tax money, not about a cash grab here.
The way I see it is this:
The Government of Canada has openly stated that they understand that flavors for vaping are an integral part of making a smoking cessation program for established tobacco users successful.
It's going to be pretty difficult for the provinces to come along at some point in the future and say they are going to ban flavors once that's been put out there by the feds.
Provinces have their own rules on tobacco, alcohol etc. Ontario brought in vaping legislation well ahead of the Feds. Why would you think vaping is some sacred cow that wont or cant be touched?
Essentially correct. 65mg is the limit now for manufactured eliquids and nicotine bases for DIY. I already have an 18 year supply of 100mg in my freezer so this won't affect me for a while. I'm just happy we still have access to nic.
The indoor vaping rules have not come into effect in Ontario yet but will soon. We're still fighting it:
Pledge To Vote Vape Friendly Candidates in Ontario 2018 #vapingisntsmoking #onpoli
Did you get any response from the candidates in your riding when you sent this to them? My Green Party candidate was the only one to respond to me and I also got follow up emails from higher up in the Greens. I was surprised that I didn't even get a "thanks for your email" from the other parties.
It's true that tobacco companies in the U.S. are hanging on by fingers and toes in America. They still reap large profits in countries that haven't fought smoking, though. So many people have quit smoking here that they aren't enjoying huge profits in the U.S. anymore. The profits come from increased prices and that will eventually cause their demise as some smokers decide that it's cheaper to quit and others turn to vaping.
Fewer People Are Buying Cigarettes, But Tobacco Companies Are Raking In Profits
Fewer People Are Buying Cigarettes, But Tobacco Companies Are Raking In Profits
I got ZERO replies. But then I expected as much.
I have a Green party candidate in my area. Haven't heard a word from anyone.
Not smoking in vape shops is normal here as well. There is always the possibility that a non-vaper walks in with a vaper and the non-vaper shouldn't be exposed to 2nd hand vapor (even though it's pretty much harmless).
They solve it here by having separate rooms where people can try equipment and juices without the vapor coming in the shop itself. There are usually backdoors for laws like that. It just takes a while for shops to discover them
They solve it here by having separate rooms where people can try equipment and juices without the vapor coming in the shop itself. There are usually backdoors for laws like that. It just takes a while for shops to discover them
Not smoking in vape shops is normal here as well. There is always the possibility that a non-vaper walks in with a vaper and the non-vaper shouldn't be exposed to 2nd hand vapor (even though it's pretty much harmless).
They solve it here by having separate rooms where people can try equipment and juices without the vapor coming in the shop itself. There are usually backdoors for laws like that. It just takes a while for shops to discover them
If it were my vape shop, I would have a sign on the door, "Vaper's Only". That would solve that problem. If you don't want to breathe vapor don't come in my vape shop.
To paraphrase Eddie Murphy: "It's my shop, and if you don't like it, get the
out."
Well after reading what happened in LA this is uplifting to know Canada is moving in the right direction. But this ban of flavours is going to spread like wild fire but that concerns me less as I make my own. Still glad Canada is not being unreasonable.
I did try and talk to the Green Party but got very little back. Will work on that again now that Federal and Health Canada have made things clearer. I am more interested in the Green Party for provincial not federal as I hope in the next Provincial election the Green Party gets more seats and power so I really would like to know what they are thinking about vaping. Work in progress here
My local green party candidate had the most encouraging reply, it let me believe she understands what the vaping community has been talking about and advocating. She used the terms healthier and safer alternatives!!!! The responses from the party itself were more "thanks for your email" with little substance. And I agree, we need to see some green sitting in our legislative houses, it is a voice that needs to be heard.
Perhaps it is because the canadian gov is more progressive, I did not say liberal. They know and realize that vaping is a way to cut out smoking among their citizens, and know that's a good thing. The same way they realize that having universal health care for their citizens is a good thing as well.
Right now I see some people praising big tobacco for fighting against what happened in SF, but really were everyone to suddenly just decide to vape, and not smoke they would be the first to "buy" their very on politicians here in the US. And that too is another reason Canada has things we don't and likely will not in my lifetime. They do not allow companies to buy their very own politician. They actually pass laws in Canada that try to actually better the person, not the companies, who could care not one whit about the well being of the people but of their wallet.
Right now I see some people praising big tobacco for fighting against what happened in SF, but really were everyone to suddenly just decide to vape, and not smoke they would be the first to "buy" their very on politicians here in the US. And that too is another reason Canada has things we don't and likely will not in my lifetime. They do not allow companies to buy their very own politician. They actually pass laws in Canada that try to actually better the person, not the companies, who could care not one whit about the well being of the people but of their wallet.
Our government is practically controlled by lobbyists from just about every large company in America. They've gone from wondering if the cost of a lobbyist in Congress was worth paying for to the point now where a lobbyist office in Washington is considered to be a profit center.
How Corporate Lobbyists Conquered American Democracy
How Corporate Lobbyists Conquered American Democracy
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Someone that wants to start vaping isn't going to whine about breathing it in. Only an ANTZ would.
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