Catfish atty mods.

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I'm taking a shot in the dark here but can you open a reo door with a magma on it if you remove the afc ring? I'm guessing no but if you can I just read that the zenith ring will fit in the magma and makes it flush, which will look better anyway. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

I'm looking at my magma right now and I'd say that if you threw it on the lathe and turned the whole thing down it would be just fine, might need to cut the afc groove deeper and make a new ring, but it would also keep it cooler being thinner walled, as the thick, heat retaining body of that atty is something I don't like about it.

Why not just slide the door down to take it out?


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Lol, makes sense, again sorry not a reo guy. I just saw someone say that n assumed it only opened up. Still not a fan of the overhang. .

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I want to get a Magma but the Infinite clone I have doesnt sit flush on my LP REOs. Are you having any leaking issues?

It sits flush on all three of my SL/LP Grands...

The flush question is asked frequently but there is truly no definitive answer. The current 510 on any Reo will crush to your atty however it doesn't snap back as well as most would like. If there is an atty that you want to keep on your Reo almost any atty will stretch the 510 to the point it will work perfectly and flush. The real problem lies in going back to a shorter 510'ed atty after a longer atty. The bushing just doesn't snap back and requires a trip to the Spa. If you want to preserve your 510 you will need attys with a throat of less than 4mm which is a short and boring list. Almost all of my attys are 5mm +\- .1mm. If you stick with 5mm depth attys you should have no problem. The issue comes up when going back to a shallow throat atty. My personal Reos have 5mm throats so almost anything fits flush.

The option is yours, either use a 1- 1.5mm oring as a spacer and or leave a gap to retain a perfect 510. The other option is stretch to 5mm and know that if you want to go back to a shallow atty you will have to send it for a re-bush. There are no magic solutions here. Personally I wish there was a decent atty that had a shallow throat and an extendable center pin. The VA stuff (Cyclone and Divo) has this via the threaded center pin but only on the 2013 models. The new 2014 lacks the threads and slot. Big fail on VA's part IMO.
 

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I got one of these in the mail today. Haven't taken it apart but it looks like it would be a tough one to mod. I looked through the AFC slots and the center pin has an air hole that's in line with the slots. Air is pulled in through the slots into the center pin below deck and out through the center pin hole above deck.
Seems to me that the below deck portion of the pin would have to be replaced with a solid pin and drilled up from the bottom. The AFC would become useless and the glass would have to be drilled.
Tom you know a lot more about this stuff than I do, you wanna take a look at it?
I haven't tried taking mine apart either. It does look unlikely as a bottom feeder.

The only possibility I was thinking was it might be possible to drill the insulator down to the 510 pin which also would have to be drilled. Not sure there's straight enough shot there or not.
 

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Lol, makes sense, again sorry not a reo guy. I just saw someone say that n assumed it only opened up. Still not a fan of the overhang. .

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This is the first bottom feeder I made, it's all Billet Aluminum, holds ten ml's. I run dual coils netting 0.33ohm mostly but I've run it down to 0.12ohm, all day long no problem. It's 22.5mm wide actually so if you throw it down on its side the atty won't hit the ground.
 

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That's true actually, it's as tough as they come, I'll post more pics if you want. Don't wanna hijack the thread.

The cap depends on the atty, nothing magic.

Sorry, I meant the top assembly of the mod itself (I think I see a join there where comes off like a Dibi?) I don't want to hijack the thread either, though.
 

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I haven't tried taking mine apart either. It does look unlikely as a bottom feeder.

The only possibility I was thinking was it might be possible to drill the insulator down to the 510 pin which also would have to be drilled. Not sure there's straight enough shot there or not.
Yea but with the air holes below deck you've got juice and air in the same pathway. Not workable. Pretty sure you would have to have a hollow center pin below deck with no air holes and drill up from the bottom making a sealed path for the juice. That would make the air hole above the deck your juice hole and it's way too high with such a deep juice well. That would also leave you without an air intake which would have to somehow be through the glass. After studying it I'm thinking it's a candidate for the classies. Unless Tom has a solution I'm not seeing. Which is entirely possible. He's the expert.
 

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Yea but with the air holes below deck you've got juice and air in the same pathway. Not workable. Pretty sure you would have to have a hollow center pin below deck with no air holes and drill up from the bottom making a sealed path for the juice. That would make the air hole above the deck your juice hole and it's way too high with such a deep juice well. That would also leave you without an air intake which would have to somehow be through the glass. After studying it I'm thinking it's a candidate for the classies. Unless Tom has a solution I'm not seeing. Which is entirely possible. He's the expert.
It's got amazing flavor though. I'm using it in a pipe right now and it's essentially leak proof. It might not work as BF but it's a great atty.
 

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Yea but with the air holes below deck you've got juice and air in the same pathway. Not workable. Pretty sure you would have to have a hollow center pin below deck with no air holes and drill up from the bottom making a sealed path for the juice. That would make the air hole above the deck your juice hole and it's way too high with such a deep juice well. That would also leave you without an air intake which would have to somehow be through the glass. After studying it I'm thinking it's a candidate for the classies. Unless Tom has a solution I'm not seeing. Which is entirely possible. He's the expert.


Send it in! I am always looking for a challenge. The CLT was a pain in the ice but I figured out that one. The plume looked impossible by the pics.. It may end up with a squonk tube running through the center but I think I have a solution.
 

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That's true actually, it's as tough as they come, I'll post more pics if you want. Don't wanna hijack the thread.

The cap depends on the atty, nothing magic.

Well if it means anything to you; I want one. I'm sure a trade could be worked out in pm if you were to consider making one for your old buddy Chowderhead. Feel free to post info and pics.
 

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Have you guys tried any quasar's? That's my favorite to date. . . Super reduced chamber, it's a simple 3 post but it's really the best flavor, I'd say better than my magma.

I have Quasars in stock ready to go. It seems like they are like the Zenith in that they are top performers but not "Cool".

Personally my favorite atty is the Zenith v2. I wouldn't mind doing a run of Zenith v2.5 but I need to find a great clone. I'm open to ideas.
 

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I have Quasars in stock ready to go. It seems like they are like the Zenith in that they are top performers but not "Cool".

Personally my favorite atty is the Zenith v2. I wouldn't mind doing a run of Zenith v2.5 but I need to find a great clone. I'm open to ideas.

I thought the Zenith v2.5 to be BF from the get go? In other words no work for you to do?

BTW, a friend of mine proudly showed me his Veritas he got from SlowTech, turns out he ordered the Veritas styled version. That thing had a short on arrival, but the biggest surprise was that this version is shorter than the original. The juice well is at least 2mm less deep than my Veritas has. That shorter well could actually be an advantage to convert into a BF.

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The zenith v2 that I got from you is quite impressive. It's actually an ice cold vape with my gplat dual coils at .31 ohms. But oh man, the clouds. Got some acb from Nicoticket in there and it's fantastic.

One of the smoothest vapes I have.

The clt is close, but I have dual twisted 30 gauge parallel coils with twisted leads in there at about 0.25 ohms and had to switch the drip tip to delrin due to the heat even wide open. If I were to rebuild at my normal 0.3-0.5 range, it'd be much smoother, but I really wanted to push it.

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