CDC TV Ad - A $2,500 Dirty Trick?

[DC2]

How many Times did you see me Edit a Post or Fat Finger something I wrote in the Last Two Days?

That Vein on my temple Doesn't throb much. But for the Last 2 Days it has looked like the Keystone Pipeline.

LOL

It's hard to type when your hands are shaking.
I've fat-fingered a whole lot lately.

 

[Gato del Jugo]

Thank You DetraMental.

Hopefully with your Help, and the Help of Others, we can Prevent a TV Ad like the one below from airing where they Inject e-Cigarettes into the Mix.

Simple solution..


Take this right out of their own playbook & use that kind of imagery to our advantage, like the CDC tobacco Free & other ANTZ groups do all the time for decades now...

Examples in their Photos section of Facebook..

https://www.facebook.com/cdctobaccofree


One can easily make a "meme" out of something along those lines, but with a photo overlaid by something like: "She might be a lot healthier today had she been able to use an e-cigarette instead..."


Then spread it around a little (Facebook, Twitter, reddit, etc.).. The people of the internet will then do the rest.. they're good like that...

 

[~Sue~Feb2012]

Simple solution..


Take this right out of their own playbook & use that kind of imagery to our advantage, like the CDC tobacco Free & other ANTZ groups do all the time for decades now...

Examples in their Photos section of Facebook..

https://www.facebook.com/cdctobaccofree


One can easily make a "meme" out of something along those lines, but with a photo overlaid by something like: "She might be a lot healthier today had she been able to use an e-cigarette instead..."


Then spread it around a little (Facebook, Twitter, reddit, etc.).. The people of the internet will then do the rest.. they're good like that...

good idea, do it!!!!!!!!

 

[Vocalek]

Simple solution..


Take this right out of their own playbook & use that kind of imagery to our advantage, like the CDC tobacco Free & other ANTZ groups do all the time for decades now...

Examples in their Photos section of Facebook..

https://www.facebook.com/cdctobaccofree


One can easily make a "meme" out of something along those lines, but with a photo overlaid by something like: "She might be a lot healthier today had she been able to use an e-cigarette instead..."


Then spread it around a little (Facebook, Twitter, reddit, etc.).. The people of the internet will then do the rest.. they're good like that...

On their graphic of health effects at various time points post quitting (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...75345509.77567.134234289975376&type=1&theater) I posted:

Elaine Keller I'm happy to report that my stroke risk is reduced to that of a nonsmoker, as I am over 5 years smoke-free thanks to switching to an e-cigarette.

Let's see how long it takes for CDC to delete that, because they must silence dissenters.

 

[zoiDman]

Elaine Keller I'm happy to report that my stroke risk is reduced to that of a nonsmoker, as I am over 5 years smoke-free thanks to switching to an e-cigarette.

Yeah... Don't think the CDC is going to make a Commercial about you Any Time Soon.

 

[beebopnjazz]

But we love her!

 

[JeremyR]

Yeah governments/ media/ big money is up to their same old games. I've been on this side of the media attacks and false hoods with many things I've done and been involved with in my life. They are going to do what they want to do. The interests involved don't much care what you say. They will try to crush us but they will find out that thier old tricks do't work in the new world. They still underestimate the Internet. The people behind many of these things are old and old money. When they can't convince enough people and their claims get more outlandish; people, even stubborn ones, will start to see through it and we will rein supreme. They can not hide a publicly know truth for long... Ecigs are a safer alternative.

Should we do something sure. Regulation is what these fake ads are about. Trying to mind control people by putting a message in Their heads about something they know nothing about. They plant the seed.

*We need to plant out own seeds, our message will spread to enough people to a cause doubt in the plans for regulation... I know this sounds bad to ya'll but I'm gonna say it, sending them a message is something that could just be ignored & deleted by them.

We need to counter the opposition with our own positive publicity or media. **Getting congressman and senators in the know and on our side would be a very big deal.**

 

[zoiDman]

But we love her!

That, is Not Debatable.

But People Like Her Do NOT Fit In very well with the Agenda that the CDC Wants to Promote.

It's Funny. If the CDC came here and said they were making a TV Ad, and they would Give $2,500 + Travel Expenses to Anyone who Had Quite Smoking and their Health was Confirmed by a Doctor to have Improved, their e-Mail Inbox would Explode.

And they would have to Draw Name out of a Hat, a BIG Hat, to choose the Lucky person to be on their TV Ad.

 

[zoiDman]

Funny how this person talks about "Choices"...



... but the CDC wants to take our Choice of using an e-Cigarette to Quit away.

Does that seem Ironic to You? Or it just Me?

Contact the CDC and tell them you Don't Want your "Choices" Taken Away!

 

[~Sue~Feb2012]

Funny how this person talks about "Choices"...

... but the CDC wants to take our Choice of using an e-Cigarette to Quit away.

Does that seem Ironic to You? Or it just Me?

Contact the CDC and tell them you Don't Want your "Choices" Taken Away!

Yes. . .and how about this first paragraph from their "Scientific Integrity" page:
"Integrity is a core value relevant to all of CDC/ATSDR activities. The integrity concept involves consistency of actions, values, measures, principles, expectations, and outcomes. Integrity can also involve responsibility, trustworthiness, respect, caring, overall fairness and doing the right thing because it is the right thing. The mission of CDC mandates that its activities have the highest level of integrity to promote top quality public health. The Office of Scientific Integrity (OSI) was established within OADS to ensure that CDC science and research activities comply with various federal laws, regulations, and policies. OSI also combines similar scientific functional areas to facilitate the streamlining and effectiveness of critical scientific support functions often processed in sequential order."

I call BS on that one!

Here's that handy link CDC- Contact CDC-INFO

 

[Katya]

Contact the CDC and tell them you Don't Want your "Choices" Taken Away!

Well, I did, as you know.

And I received a response:

"Thank you for your comments to CDC-INFO regarding e-cigarettes.

Your comments have been forwarded to the appropriate division within the CDC for their information. They will contact you directly if they have questions.

Thank you for contacting CDC-INFO. For more information, please call 1-800-CDC-INFO (800-232-4636), visit Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and click on “Contact CDC-INFO,” or go to CDC- Contact CDC-INFO. This e-mail is being sent from an unmonitored mailbox and CDC-INFO will not respond. If you have questions or comments, please send them via our online form at www.cdc.gov/info."

I'm waiting for them to contact me.

 

[zoiDman]

Yes. . .and how about this first paragraph from their "Scientific Integrity" page:
"Integrity is a core value relevant to all of CDC/ATSDR activities. The integrity concept involves consistency of actions, values, measures, principles, expectations, and outcomes. Integrity can also involve responsibility, trustworthiness, respect, caring, overall fairness and doing the right thing because it is the right thing. The mission of CDC mandates that its activities have the highest level of integrity to promote top quality public health. The Office of Scientific Integrity (OSI) was established within OADS to ensure that CDC science and research activities comply with various federal laws, regulations, and policies. OSI also combines similar scientific functional areas to facilitate the streamlining and effectiveness of critical scientific support functions often processed in sequential order."

I call BS on that one!

Here's that handy link CDC- Contact CDC-INFO

Yeah... It is kinda the Same as when the Head of GM comes out and says...

"GM is Committed to Making the Safest, Most Reliable Cars on the Market!"

 

[zoiDman]

Well, I did, as you know.

And I received a response:

"Thank you for your comments to CDC-INFO regarding e-cigarettes.

Your comments have been forwarded to the appropriate division within the CDC for their information. They will contact you directly if they have questions.

Thank you for contacting CDC-INFO. For more information, please call 1-800-CDC-INFO (800-232-4636), visit Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and click on “Contact CDC-INFO,” or go to CDC- Contact CDC-INFO. This e-mail is being sent from an unmonitored mailbox and CDC-INFO will not respond. If you have questions or comments, please send them via our online form at www.cdc.gov/info."

I'm waiting for them to contact me.

Thank you Katya.

 

[Katya]

I sent them a bunch of links to actual scientific studies.

This is a very good one. "This document has been produced in partnership with Public Health England."

http://www.ncsct.co.uk/usr/pub/e-cigarette_briefing.pdf

If somebody else wants to email CDC, that is a great link to forward to them.

ETA: Discussion here:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...eport-electronic-cigarettes.html#post13165551

 

[~Sue~Feb2012]

Well, I did, as you know.

And I received a response:

"Thank you for your comments to CDC-INFO regarding e-cigarettes.

Your comments have been forwarded to the appropriate division within the CDC for their information. They will contact you directly if they have questions.

Thank you for contacting CDC-INFO. For more information, please call 1-800-CDC-INFO (800-232-4636), visit Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and click on “Contact CDC-INFO,” or go to CDC- Contact CDC-INFO. This e-mail is being sent from an unmonitored mailbox and CDC-INFO will not respond. If you have questions or comments, please send them via our online form at www.cdc.gov/info."

I'm waiting for them to contact me.

I didn't get a response yet!
(maybe they didn't like the tone or my wording

 

[zoiDman]

I didn't get a response yet!
(maybe they didn't like the tone or my wording

That's OK.

I don't think they Liked what I said Also.

That, or they are still pouring over the Links I sent them.

 

[Katya]

That's OK.

I don't think they Liked what I said Also.

That, or they are still pouring over the Links I sent them.

Does it mean that they ignored my links?

 

[zoiDman]

Does it mean that they ignored my links?

No. What I think they Don't Like is that in the course to 48 Hours, that more than 1 Person sent them an e-Mail which Contained Pro e-Cigarettes study links.

That Almost gives the Appearance of being Organized. And that is About the Last thing Any Government Agency wants. Organized Opposition.

 

[~Sue~Feb2012]

No. What I think they Don't Like is that in the course to 48 Hours, that more than 1 Person sent them an e-Mail which Contained Pro e-Cigarettes study links.

That Almost gives the Appearance of being Organized. And that is About the Last thing Any Government Agency wants. Organized Opposition.

That's true! If you hadn't started this thread zoiDman with the link to contact them, I might not have done it by myself, thinking something like, I'm just One person, what good would it do? But with many people doing it, it definitely worthwhile!

 

[zoiDman]

That's true! If you hadn't started this thread zoiDman with the link to contact them, I might not have done it by myself, thinking something like, I'm just One person, what good would it do? But with many people doing it, it definitely worthwhile!

Thank you Sue.

Think if 1 out of 10 here on the ECF did what I did? And we could get Hundreds of e-Mails going everyday to Government Agencies. Or the CA AB-1500 Authors of the World. Or the Publishers of the e-Cigarette FUD that we read on the Net.

Instead of Having 1,000's and 1,000's of Post where all people do is Complain. And engage in Sudo-Intellectual Debates about Rights and Freedoms.

The House is On Fire. Now is Not the Time to Talk about what is the Best thing to Do when your House is On Fire. Now is the Time to Turn the Water On and Try to Put It Out.