CE-2s are inconsistant

[tornado9015]

I know CE-2s have been discussed to death, I'm sorry if anybody is getting sick of reading about it. But after a lot of research, and so much discussion, I couldn't help myself, and I ordered a lot of them from e-liquid.cn. First I just want to say that these are the final r4s, I opened one up to be sure. They come straight from the factory with the royalsmokers packaging, any that don't come in this package are either ordered in bulk, specifically requested without them, or more likely they are repackaged.

So far the first one I tried on my 510 was nearly perfect. Better throat hit than any attie/carto/anything I have tried so far. Plenty of vapor, good taste, great throat hit. The first 808 i tried was terrible. Practically no vapor, no th, burnt awful taste. Second 808 was slightly better but not by much.

The 510s I ordered were in the 2.4-2.6ohm range, the 808s were 3.0-3.2ohm. Oddly enough I was playing it safe by ordering the 3ohm, as I was under the impression that 3.0 would be ideal for the 808s, and anything higher may not give enough vapor or th.

The main point I am trying to get across is that CE-2s can be great, or they can be terrible. They aren't reliable, and if you are willing to look at every box like a lottery ticket, than CE-2s are for you. If you would rather stick to what you know and not take any risk, that is what I strongly advise you do.

 

[Mr.Self_Destruct]

So how many cartos have you tried so far to come to this conclusion?

Surely you have tried at least 5 boxes of each from at least 2 vendors to make such a statement.

Right?

 

[tornado9015]

All ce-2s come from the same vendor originally. Trying them from different vendors would be a waste of time effort and money. To be fair though you are correct, I haven't tried enough of them. That is my initial conclusion, I'm not going to chain vape all day for a week just to prove my point. It is how I feel now. If my opinion changes I will voice my new opinion. If anybody disagrees based on their experience they are free to post here and explain why.

 

[bassthumper]

Of course not. They try them once and draw a conclusion just like everyone else that has bad things to say about them. They're not stepping up like Badkolo and REALLY testing them, or else they'd know that isn't the case.

Anyone that makes these statements either tried them once and didn't like them or haven't tried them at all and dismiss them as "lame"

YES, these HAVE been discussed to death and anyone that wants a REAL review of these CE2's then go read the thread by Badkolo.....

 

[tornado9015]

Did you actually read what I posted? I said that the first one I tried for my 510 was the best method of vaping I had experienced to date. I said that they RANGE, from great to crap. You both focused on one word. You also make no mention as to whether or not you have tried them yourselves.

I apologize if I wasn't clear enough that this was my initial impression. Now I have said it twice. I gave it a glowing review, and explained my problems. The point was that I experienced both, and I was attempting to convey that. Maybe you should actually read what people write before writing them off as uninformed and dismissing the entire concept.

Like I said I plan to continue using these, I do have 10 boxes of them left.

 

[Mr.Self_Destruct]

While they might be made by one manufacturer. I think we all know China is the king of knockoffs. So not all vendors will have the same product, because they could possibly have knock offs and not know it.

I just couldn't see how you can label them inconsitant in the title of this thread when you probably haven't been through one box..

just sayin'

I think you got my point.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

It would be interesting to hear how it turns out once you've sampled several of each type. It would be very nice if these were consistent because when they work well they are very good.

 

[5cardstud]

Another member pmed me about problems that were similar to yours.

 

[tarheeldan]

All the CE2's currently come from RS/Microcig. Now that R4's are finalized, each batch should be the same in design save for QC issues. So, domestic vendor doesn't matter.

I can see them being inconsistent out of the box - the length of the wick loops, and the exact shape and thickness of the heating coil seem hard to perfectly replicate, but I don't know much about the manufacturing process.

I would note, however, that in my experience they are pretty consistent once modded with PTB ala Badkolo. I've had R3's, R3.75 bastomizers, and now R4's, and once they're modded I can't tell the difference - they're all great. EDIT: 510, 510 XL, and 808 XL are the ones I've tried.

 

[roygodbold]

I hate to admit it but I agree with the OP. I so much want these to work. I even have wicking problems with the 3ohm 510 non xl.
I have tried quite a good sampling. My last hope is the PTB mod. I pray that works.

 

[MichaelOz]

Of course not. They try them once and draw a conclusion just like everyone else that has bad things to say about them. They're not stepping up like Badkolo and REALLY testing them, or else they'd know that isn't the case.

Anyone that makes these statements either tried them once and didn't like them or haven't tried them at all and dismiss them as "lame"

YES, these HAVE been discussed to death and anyone that wants a REAL review of these CE2's then go read the thread by Badkolo.....

Link to thread?

 

[Automaton]

Of course not. They try them once and draw a conclusion just like everyone else that has bad things to say about them. They're not stepping up like Badkolo and REALLY testing them, or else they'd know that isn't the case.

Anyone that makes these statements either tried them once and didn't like them or haven't tried them at all and dismiss them as "lame"

YES, these HAVE been discussed to death and anyone that wants a REAL review of these CE2's then go read the thread by Badkolo.....

That's not necessarily true.

I tried several R2's. They were TERRIBLE. All of them. What was really amazing is that they were each terrible in different ways. No quality control at all. It was abysmal.

Before you ask, no, they were not all from the same box or shipment. Different boxes, different shipments. No excuse for that.

I came out strong with that, because I had tried several, from different places, and they all blew harder than... wait, we can't say things like that here.

Then I tried the R3's. Vast improvement. So vast I actually enjoy vaping them better than anything else. I ate some crow and said so.

But are they really consistent? No. Now people are finding with the R4's that some of them have wicks that are too short and only go halfway down the tank. There's the whole "bastarmizer" fiasco.

The CE2's are evolving in a generally positive direction. But the company making them is still one of the least ethical I have ever encountered. Their quality control and customer service is so bad as to be offensive.

And that's a shame, since the product they're making could be perfect if they would just get on top of that. All the elements are there. They're just being utilized by a crappy company.

So when you get a good CE2, it's amazing. That's only IF you get a good one. And yes, it is a little like playing the lottery, even now.

 

[Firefly13]

That's not necessarily true.

I tried several R2's. They were TERRIBLE. All of them. What was really amazing is that they were each terrible in different ways. No quality control at all. It was abysmal.

Before you ask, no, they were not all from the same box or shipment. Different boxes, different shipments. No excuse for that.

I came out strong with that, because I had tried several, from different places, and they all blew harder than... wait, we can't say things like that here.

Then I tried the R3's. Vast improvement. So vast I actually enjoy vaping them better than anything else. I ate some crow and said so.

But are they really consistent? No. Now people are finding with the R4's that some of them have wicks that are too short and only go halfway down the tank. There's the whole "bastarmizer" fiasco.

The CE2's are evolving in a generally positive direction. But the company making them is still one of the least ethical I have ever encountered. Their quality control and customer service is so bad as to be offensive.

And that's a shame, since the product they're making could be perfect if they would just get on top of that. All the elements are there. They're just being utilized by a crappy company.

So when you get a good CE2, it's amazing. That's only IF you get a good one. And yes, it is a little like playing the lottery, even now.

+1.. i agree on everything you said...

These are not ready yet to a standard to take over regular cartos, hence why none of the big vendors are stocking / using them yet, only the small vendors are stocking them as they are a fad right now to turn over some cash. I have tried every revision from 3 different places including Royalsmokers / Microcig, all the same rubbish, i've had a few that worked pretty good but the wicking problem is still far from fixed.

 

[chargerrc]

I got a 5 pack of E2 v4's 2.5 ohm a few days ago, I've tried 3 of them with every mod in the book, all of badkola's tricks. They all taste terrible, no mod fixed them. In my opinion they are junk. I can drip these things and they still taste bad. I'm kind of scared to use them, because I don't recognize the taste. I would have never started vaping if that would have been my first experience, my Smoking Everywhere ecig was better than that.

The Joye 510 cartomizers from Cignot blow them out the water in every way. They do get a bad taste after a few refills, but you can clean(rinse & dry burn) them, and mod them with blue foam. They seem to last a long time. I bought 15 of these over 4 weeks ago, and I'm still using the same 3 that I started with. They are better than the 510 atties modded with blue foam. So far this has been the best I have found, and it is near perfect. Also once it's been taken apart there is no need to use a syringe to fill it, just pop out your foam, drip fill the tank, pop the foam back in, put the housing back on the atty, and your good to go. It's very similar to cart and atty. I do however use these with an Ego, the cone offers some protection against side loads that could cause the housing to come off the atty, they just slip on and off. Cheap, easy, and very effective, give it a try.

 

[hairball]

I'm going to chime in on this. I ordered the R3's for VJ and COV. Got them about a month or little less ago. So far, I love them. They do exactly what they should. Good wicking, good flavor, etc. I'm anxious to try the R4's but waiting a tad to make sure they are the correct ones. It's like buying a new cell phone, when they first come out, they have alot of issues, wait awhile and the issues get corrected.

Some people love them like I do and some don't. Bottom line, stay with what works for YOU and that makes YOU happy.

 

[FeistyAlice]

As a quick FYI.... I ordered a box of regular CE2-4s and a box of CE-4 XL from a trusted USA vendor I've been consitantly ordering from all of the two months of vaping DH and I have been doing. DH and I may be "new" but I've ordered lots of supplies from different US suppliers and formed some allegiance to some vendors especially when they go way far to give the best customer support and quickly answer my email questions. And we are totally addicted to FSUSA juices; the best.

The boxes they came in are the standard RoyalSmokers box. The very first XL I took out was dripping filler... I opened the rest and all were filler free; same with the regulars. I did an initial dry burn on all of them and didn't get any whisps of vapor coming off of them. It took me over 20 minutes to clear out the first, and only XL with filler, with extremely hot water and dry burning; bunches of times. After filling it it had a bit of foul taste but after sitting for 24 hours it is vaping nicely. BTW... I haven't contacted the vendor yet but I'm fully sure they want to know and sure they will send me a replacement. I guess this one is one of the basterdized ones that somehow got slipped into the box at the factory; no way for my US vender to tell as they are individually wrapped and sealed.

I'll be sending it back to vendor with a mod box that they replaced when the battery lid compartment nib broke. I already have the replacement and dripping it right now. I'm fairly sure the vendor will take it apart to check just what's inside it. At any rate, after I cleaned it out well and let it sit it is vaping well with no odd taste. I'm anxious to try the other after they sit for a day or so. BTW... I like it on my mod box and eGo battery but not on my 510 pass thru. I have no idea what voltages and ohms all are.

Just wanted to add this as sometimes our US vendors aren't aware of boo-boos in the pre-packaged items they send out.

Alice

 

[FeistyAlice]

Oh, and yes, my jury is still out on whether I'm going to like the CE-2s. They may be too much trouble but I don't know that for sure. The only one I'm using now, the .......ized one with filler and one of the regulars are not wicking fast enough for my vaping style. Maybe the other XLs will be better. I mostly drip a PT 510 and a mod box and carry an eGo with carto when I'm out and/or driving or getting ready to fall asleep in the recliner. (Recliner sleepers only can relate to the "Christmas Day" feelings when the recliner is pulled out for a good cleaning. Glasses, lighters, money, pen lights, PVs, batteries, adapters for gadgets, etc... I could always count on finding some ciggies under a recliner when I was getting low.) Or sometimes slip a 4081 in a small pocket to vape discretely out in public. Always have a small bottle of juice with me no matter what.

Alice

 

[badkolo]

I know CE-2s have been discussed to death, I'm sorry if anybody is getting sick of reading about it. But after a lot of research, and so much discussion, I couldn't help myself, and I ordered a lot of them from e-liquid.cn. First I just want to say that these are the final r4s, I opened one up to be sure. They come straight from the factory with the royalsmokers packaging, any that don't come in this package are either ordered in bulk, specifically requested without them, or more likely they are repackaged.

So far the first one I tried on my 510 was nearly perfect. Better throat hit than any attie/carto/anything I have tried so far. Plenty of vapor, good taste, great throat hit. The first 808 i tried was terrible. Practically no vapor, no th, burnt awful taste. Second 808 was slightly better but not by much.

The 510s I ordered were in the 2.4-2.6ohm range, the 808s were 3.0-3.2ohm. Oddly enough I was playing it safe by ordering the 3ohm, as I was under the impression that 3.0 would be ideal for the 808s, and anything higher may not give enough vapor or th.

The main point I am trying to get across is that CE-2s can be great, or they can be terrible. They aren't reliable, and if you are willing to look at every box like a lottery ticket, than CE-2s are for you. If you would rather stick to what you know and not take any risk, that is what I strongly advise you do.

Its not that they are incocnsitant, its that they are sending out bad ones, thats 2 different things.

I know what your saying but everyone is kind of wrong, if they sent you all good e2's then they wouldnt be inconsistant, but i think its done on purpose versus the line pushing out bad and good e2's, they made so many versions of the r4 in the first few weeks theat they are sending out the bad with the good.

so yes your right but not in the way you think.

 

[MikeDeason]

They are ok. They taste burnt after a couple refills. Much better than a regular carto on the first fill but go downhill quickly from there.

Stick w/the Vapornine Turbo cartos...they are hands down the best cartos. And no...they're not the same as V4Life CoolCarts.

 

[badkolo]

Once again, many of the issues people are having with the working e2 r4 is the ohm, to many vendors still are selling the 2.5 ohm e2 r4 and thats not meant for 3.7 period. now this isnt the users fault but im just letting you people know,for the e2 to work properly the 2.5 ohm should be used at 3. 0 to 3.2 volts.

for 3.7 voltss you need the 2.8 to 3.1 e2 r4 which will not give you the bad dry taste.

this applies to working good e2r4 becuase right now many have bastomizer r4's and others are selling r4's that dont vape and those are bad plain and simple while others are selling the real r4 but at 2.5 ohms and that aint gonna cut it.

i sent out many real r4's with proper ohms 2.9 to 3.1 and they are not experiencing these issues.