Chemical smell and taste from venders to avoid

[myeyelash]

Hi folks! I know taste is subjective. In grade school science class we had an experiment where students were given a strip of paper laced with litmus. Some could taste it while others could not. I could.

Many folks have praised the venders I'm listing in this post. I don't mean to offend anybody's personal tastes. I'm merely sharing my experience with anyone who shares the same issue. And hoping to collect suggestions about which venders to avoid and which are safe for me to try.

Some venders juices I've received contain an ingredient in common that smell chemical right in the bottle. The chemical taste while vaping is prevalent in my sinuses. The intensity varies from tolerable (can taste flavor and chemical base); to completely awful (so chemical it obliterates any flavors that may be present).

This is my vender experience so far. I will continue to modify / add to this list as I sample the venders I have in stock.

MtBaker - tastes and smells fine

Alice in Vapeland - tastes and smells exquisite

Nirvana Vapor - tastes and smell very good

Good Life Vapor - chemical base

Gothic Vapor - chemical base

I want to try these venders:
If you have experience with the chemical base I'm describing and think I should avoid any of the following please share

Ahlusion

The vape Kitchen

Heather's Heavenly Vapes

The Plume Room

The Vapor Room

Zen Mind

Virgin Vapers

As I nail down my juice preference profile I'm mostly satisfied when I vape complex flavors such as AiV. Any recommendations or non-recommendations for venders listed above or unlisted is hugely appreciated!!!!

Thanks and have a great day

 

[RAAng]

I don't have vast experience and I know a lot of people on here like Heather's, but I purchased three flavors from them and found two to be quite chemically. The other I haven't tried yet. Strawberry Lemonade (I think) had that sinus feeling. It had steeped for at least three weeks and I tossed it. Island Something (pina colada) was perfumy, but I mix it with other stuff because it has a strong flavor that doesn't wear out and I often like a shot of coconut. I haven't tried the Cherry Blast yet. All three smelled chemically when I got them.

I've also tried AiV, Vapor Chef and Velvet Cloud Vapor and haven't had this chemical thing with any of them.

PS - The Island flavor did not have the sinus hit, just tastes a bit like perfume.

 

[twgbonehead]

You should air out the juices that you find "chemical". Shake them, take the cap off, squeeze out the air a couple of times, then put the cap back on. Do this until the "chemical smell" goes away.

Also, how many flavors from each of these vendors have you tried? Some of the GLV juices I've tried definitely do have that chemical smell (particularly, I think, their fruits). Others (like my favorite, Deadly Sin) do not.

 

[rabernet]

See - now I find MBV has a horrid chemical taste - one that does not dissipate with aging - so badly, I threw all of mine away (about 10 different flavors - no extra flavor shots).

I do not taste chemical in Ahlusion from your list.

 

[Mazinny]

I think you need a more precise term than chemical to explain what you are referring to. For example, every virgin vapor juice i have tried, smells and tastes perfumey to me. Perfume is a chemical,technically speaking, but i don't think it's the smell you are referring to ( is it ? ). Now they use " all natural and organic " products. Technically speaking, everything is a chemical, yeah ? I have used organic and all natural juice that just smelled "off", and ones that used artificial ingredients that smelled " right ". Another example is coffee flavors. A lot of them leave a popcorny aftertaste in my mouth. I don't think of it as chemical, but it's still "off".

I have probably used the term as well, but i am not sure what some others perceive as " chemical " is necessarily the same as your perceptions. A lot of liquids smell and taste inaccurate to their descriptions. Some i find offensive, and some not. If i can't describe the smell ( perfumey, popcorny, etc ...), i usually, call it " chemically " as well, but i have found others may or may not.

 

[myeyelash]

You should air out the juices that you find "chemical". Shake them, take the cap off, squeeze out the air a couple of times, then put the cap back on. Do this until the "chemical smell" goes away.

I have 4 from GLV and blueberry morning was the most offensive of the lot. The other three, including deadly sin, have a milder chemical smell. Airing out the juice does help reduce the chemical smell, but the taste and smell is still detectable in my sinuses.

MBV was my first juice order and I immediately steeped and aired it before tasting so my recollection of chemical scent being present is not as recent. I remember it did not repulse me (like blueberry morning) and it tastes fine to me, though not a reorder.

My second juice order was from AiV. It smelled "natural" in the bottle without airing out. My first vape of lavender was in a tank that had gurgling issues. Even though juice was spitting in my mouth the juice tasted delicious.

The venders I listed above have complex juice flavors I'm curious about, such as cha-yen (thai iced tea), mango lassi, thai mango sticky rice, heavenly waffles (I will gladly skip this and save $, thanks RAAng!), and other dessert and creamy flavors.

I prefer to spend funds on venders whose juices smell and taste natural straight out of the bottle, like AiV. I vape around 3 ml every 2-3 days, so buying from venders that may cost a bit more is better than throwing away juices from venders whose base is perceptibly chemical.

This is a noob question but does 100% organic juice smell and taste chemical free? I know what certified organic foods are but I don't have experience or knowledge with organic e-juice ingredients.

Have a delicious day!

 

[Lurch]

I picked up a juice from a local B&M (I think they mixed it there, but not certain). When I tried it at the store it was great. Got it home and it was horrible, real perfume taste. I put in a drawer and forget it. About a month later I found them and decided to try again. they were great! Guess it was just one of those that needed to age for awhile.

 

[myeyelash]

I think you need a more precise term than chemical to explain what you are referring to.

What I'm referring to is not perfumy or popcorn like. It's not related to food or nature I have come in contact with.

It's a sharp note, like something I might smell in a machine shop, or when I open a shoebox with a new pair of cheap sneakers. Sort of metal and rubber. I find it so offensive it may be causing an allergic reaction in my sinuses. It's so piercing that it overpowers any other flavor present.

I'm sorry, I don't mean to condemn any vender people may be very happy with. It's just that my reaction is so visceral that I'm wondering if it's detectable to anyone else? I'm hoping to be informed by other's experiences and to inform others.

Though my SO is not nearly as picky as I am, he won't vape it either. That says a lot.

 

[myeyelash]

About a month later I found them and decided to try again. they were great! Guess it was just one of those that needed to age for awhile.

The juices I ordered steeped (sat unopened) for 3 weeks at a friends house before I arrived home and picked up our mail. I tasted the AiV juice without airing which was delish. I assumed the others were ready to vape also.

The few I tried that were awful I uncapped and aired them in a sealed food container. They smell better, but I can still detect that chemical smell. I will leave caps off another few days and if that smell is nearly all gone I may try them again.

I'm an interior designer and have experience with VOCs in paint, carpet, etc. I'd rather not vape juice that requires off-gassing. Off-gassing something I intend to ingest just feels wrong.

 

[bman1977]

Some of Halo's have this "chemical" problem. I've been steeping soem of their juices for months now with no change. I tried Dragon's Fire from HHV and found it to have that perfumey taste even after steeping.

 

[bman1977]

The juices I ordered steeped (sat unopened) for 3 weeks at a friends house before I arrived home and picked up our mail. I tasted the AiV juice without airing which was delish. I assumed the others were ready to vape also.

The few I tried that were awful I uncapped and aired them in a sealed food container. They smell better, but I can still detect that chemical smell. I will leave caps off another few days and if that smell is nearly all gone I may try them again.

I'm an interior designer and have experience with VOCs in paint, carpet, etc. I'd rather not vape juice that requires off-gassing. Off-gassing something I intend to ingest just feels wrong.

I feel the same way. Anything I have to "air out" because it has a horrible smell shouldn't be inhaled. From my experience the only juice that NEVER has that weird chemical thing to it is Alien Vision's stuff. I vape their stuff right out of the mail. Never steep and never stinks.

 

[jefsview]

Some of Halo's have this "chemical" problem. I've been steeping soem of their juices for months now with no change. I tried Dragon's Fire from HHV and found it to have that perfumey taste even after steeping.

But did you follow the instructions and let them "breathe" for 12 hours? Breathing is the simple act of taking the cap and dripper off and letting the liquid air out. Halo uses synthetic flavors and require it for best flavor. HHV uses alcohol to mix their liquids, and the breathing is required to allow that alcohol to evaporate.

Liquids should be shaken before and after the airing out before any steeping, if any, is needed.

Halo can come off as medicinal/chemical. HHV -- I've never had that experience with them -- just the intended flavor profiles of the many liquids I've purchased.

 

[bman1977]

But did you follow the instructions and let them "breathe" for 12 hours? Breathing is the simple act of taking the cap and dripper off and letting the liquid air out. Halo uses synthetic flavors and require it for best flavor. HHV uses alcohol to mix their liquids, and the breathing is required to allow that alcohol to evaporate.

Liquids should be shaken before and after the airing out before any steeping, if any, is needed.

Halo can come off as medicinal/chemical. HHV -- I've never had that experience with them -- just the intended flavor profiles of the many liquids I've purchased.

I tried Dragons Fire from HHV. I'm steeping it now for another week or two and i'll retry it. Seems like it could have potential. And yes i've done every possible steeping trick on here with some of Halo's. It aint working with some of them.

 

[Thunderball]

See - now I find MBV has a horrid chemical taste - one that does not dissipate with aging - so badly, I threw all of mine away (about 10 different flavors - no extra flavor shots).

I do not taste chemical in Ahlusion from your list.

If you go to many vape meets, this is the one juice makers juice that ends up in a pile at the "leave one-take one" swap table.

 

[jefsview]

I tried Dragons Fire from HHV. I'm steeping it now for another week or two and i'll retry it. Seems like it could have potential. And yes i've done every possible steeping trick on here with some of Halo's. It aint working with some of them.

That's the weird thing about individuals and body chemistry -- everyone tastes something different. I never realized this until I got into vaping. It's more evident since new vapors still have numb tongue from the cigarette chemicals and then take that journey of the senses "waking up" or resurrecting and a flavor you love at first will turn horribly wrong in a few weeks, months, etc. Some get "vapor's tongue," while others do not, and some never recover their senses.

 

[rabernet]

If you go to many vape meets, this is the one juice makers juice that ends up in a pile at the "leave one-take one" swap table.

Which one? MBV or Ahlusion? Because if it's Ahlusion - tell me when the next meet is - I'll be there! LOL