Deb, I am so sorry for your troubles. I do know a little bit of what your going through my mom's cat had Feline leukemia. It's really tough, I know. We're all here for you. Sending good thoughts your way. Hope things brighten up for you soon.
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I have been speaking to Daisy* girls past owners..finally the truth is out..she tells me she rescued Daisy as a kitten..from bad owners..her dad gave her money to have her desexed..and shes had no vaccinations worm treatment nothing...as shes a very sweet girl...I had to hold back my angershe admits daisy has mostly been a biter and has let her roam all day as she works. god knows how many cat fight shes been in...so daisy most likely has had the leukaemia for awhile..and I wouldn't mind betting..daisy has..fiv as well.as I didn't have her tested for that..im not rolling in money..anyway...im just washing my hands of all of this..i mainly blame myself...for trusting people sorry folks for going on...I just need to down load..thanks for putting up with me.♥
I'm so sorry you have to deal with all of this on the heels of grieving for Alice. Don't blame yourself for having a tender compassionate heart. We are here for you to help get you through. {{{Hugs}}} and more hugs for you from me.
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Here is our pretty camp in the woods.
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Sheep herders have camped here before us. They have a lot of lonely hours out in the mountains so they do carvings. One is from 1984 and one is from 1949.
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Our pretty camp turned into a winter wonderland on Thursday. Still pretty but kind of scary. We listened to NOAA reports and the reports said scattered showers with snow above 6500 feet but what we had was steady snow all day long. At 3pm we made the decision to take down the camp, load up and pull out. Temps were supposed to go cold that night and we were worried that we might not get down the mountain until Sunday once all this snow turned into ice overnight. At 5pm we left and we didn't get to our house until 1am.
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[/URL]Our pretty camp turned into a winter wonderland on Thursday. Still pretty but kind of scary. We listened to NOAA reports and the reports said scattered showers with snow above 6500 feet but what we had was steady snow all day long. At 3pm we made the decision to take down the camp, load up and pull out. Temps were supposed to go cold that night and we were worried that we might not get down the mountain until Sunday once all this snow turned into ice overnight. At 5pm we left and we didn't get to our house until 1am.
Lizzie, those carved trees are so interesting. And the transformation of your camp from dry to snowy is impressive. I'm glad you got out safely before you were stuck there. Staying might have been a frigid experience. I've never camped in snow, but I imagine it's cold, even if you have all the proper clothing and a warm sleeping bag.
Ohhh Deb.
I am sooo very sorry. I would duplicate what Sandy said above because she said exactly what I was thinking and feeling, and I can't do it better. You are doing the right thing for all - including Daisy*.Lizzie the photos are wonderful! They have really brightened Voltville. Thanks! Any more?
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Well, I'm just about crawling out of my skin this morning. The sounds of chainsaws awakened me. There has been a steady stream of sawing, pounding in of wedges, more sawing, more pounding, and then loud crashes all morning. I can't even think clearly or stay in focus. I'm going to head into town if my body will cooperate and then start packing. I'll head into the woods in a different direction and camp out tomorrow night and then maybe another ... weather permitting. I may camp down at The Cliffs which is as far away from the chainsaws as I can get. This just ... eviscerates me.
Good luck camping Rave
I am sorry that its those horrible sounds making you get out but I'm sure the loveliness of your Cliffs will be very restorative for you. Try and have some fun!
I am sorry that its those horrible sounds making you get out but I'm sure the loveliness of your Cliffs will be very restorative for you. Try and have some fun!
Raven - I haven't caught up with everything on Voltville since I went out of town [and maybe I never will ] but I did see where you had to have a tree man come in to harvest some of your dead and dying trees. I feel you. Out here in my area, every tree feels like a precious gift of shade and green softness on the eyes. I'm sure the other trees will benefit from the thinning and will be the healthier for it.
] but I did see where you had to have a tree man come in to harvest some of your dead and dying trees. I feel you. Out here in my area, every tree feels like a precious gift of shade and green softness on the eyes. I'm sure the other trees will benefit from the thinning and will be the healthier for it.
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Lizzie, thanks for sharing your photos and I hope you have some more. The vistas are tremendous and make me jealous for mountains and desert. Glad you got out ahead of the snow even though it meant driving into the wee small hours of the morning.
Rave, I feel for you with the trees. I really didn't want to take the two down I cut earlier this year, but they were fouling our yard, terribly, with sweet gum "nuts" full of spikes. Your doing something that will pay off in the future though, new growth will return and make things look even more beautiful in the future.
Rave, I feel for you with the trees. I really didn't want to take the two down I cut earlier this year, but they were fouling our yard, terribly, with sweet gum "nuts" full of spikes. Your doing something that will pay off in the future though, new growth will return and make things look even more beautiful in the future.
Going camping somewhere to get away from the noise may be the best thing, so long as you stay warm. Can you go visit a relative? Use headphones to listen to music?
Hi Trit - Haven't seen you in awhile!!! How have you been?
Gotta head out to the dentist, yuck.
Gotta head out to the dentist, yuck.
I'm so sorry, Rave. I hope your campsite is far enough away that you can't hear the noise. I'm sending hugs and vibes that it's all over soon and you get through the trauma OK.
I am playing Awsum this AM - cleaned bathroom and kitchen, doing laundry and cleaning as the wife is dutifully working at the Christian Shelter handing out food. RETIREMENT, The pay sucks, but the hours are Great!
Lizzie, us Eastern Suburban Folks really enjoy your pictures. The last time I camped was about 57 years ago in scouts. I have been hunting, fishing and boating ever since, but no camping. I saw a saying that struck me as appropriate for your camping and snow experience:
Sometimes Bad Decisions make Good Stories!
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Lizzie, us Eastern Suburban Folks really enjoy your pictures. The last time I camped was about 57 years ago in scouts. I have been hunting, fishing and boating ever since, but no camping. I saw a saying that struck me as appropriate for your camping and snow experience:
Sometimes Bad Decisions make Good Stories!
Still Lurking as usual
The Wabbit
I've got a dilemma. I got this e-mail from the barn owner this morning: "I also want to talk to you about putting Penny by herself. I want to put my horses together after the 15th of this month and have them separate from the boarded horses. However I do not want to put Penny with Boots and Bella either due to your getting run into when Penny was in heat. I will make sure there is a gate you can get her in and out of during the day without crossing through my horses. I could let her out with my horses after dark and separate her in the morning if you would like her to have interaction with other horses during hours you would not be there."
The problem is, Penny gets frantic when she's by herself. There's a possibility that she'll get used to it, though it will never make her happy and content. Then there's also the possibility that she'll be so distressed that she'll colic. Being separate will not be good for her. I could put her with the barn owner's horses during the day, too, but if I want to get Penny out of the pasture, I'll have to deal with the horse that ran me down last year about this time. I really don't want to do that. Boots and Bella, the other boarder's horses, aren't acceptable, either. Boots is a gelding, and he may get too interested in Penny, and though Bella is a mare, she is very pushy, and I don't need to deal with that. Also, I'm not sure if the barn owner will keep her herd up near the barn during the day, and if the horses are allowed to go into the far pasture, I'll have to wade through a rocky, swift-moving creek to get her. I did wade that creek a few times and found that the footing is very tricky, and it would be only a matter of time before I slipped and fell in. That isn't pleasant in cold weather, even if I kept a change of clothes at the barn, just in case. I just don't want to go there.
Another option is to move Penny back to the barn where she lived before this barn. The main problem there is that the board is twice what I'm paying, which is why I moved Penny in the first place. It would be a severe financial strain to keep her at the old barn. And I don't know if now there's an open stall, though it would be easy enough to find out by asking the old barn owner. An advantage there would be that there's an indoor ring for winter riding when it's too icy on the trails. A disadvantage is that there's horrible mud near the gates, and once I actually got stuck in the mud and couldn't move till Penny came and saved me. I was able to lift a foot when she stood by me and I could lean on her and use her for support. She slowly and carefully walked me to the gate through the mud when she saw me in distress. I was very grateful. Ordinarily, Penny is reluctant to walk in that mud when I lead her, so she went way above and beyond the call of duty, coming to get me when she saw I was in trouble. I'll never forget that. If anyone tries to tell you that horses are incapable of being compassionate, tell them that story.
So what should I do? I e-mailed the barn owner back and asked if she could keep one of her horses with Penny, but she may not agree to that, or she would have suggested it. I also mentioned to her that I may have to leave for the winter. Why is nothing ever simple?
The problem is, Penny gets frantic when she's by herself. There's a possibility that she'll get used to it, though it will never make her happy and content. Then there's also the possibility that she'll be so distressed that she'll colic. Being separate will not be good for her. I could put her with the barn owner's horses during the day, too, but if I want to get Penny out of the pasture, I'll have to deal with the horse that ran me down last year about this time. I really don't want to do that. Boots and Bella, the other boarder's horses, aren't acceptable, either. Boots is a gelding, and he may get too interested in Penny, and though Bella is a mare, she is very pushy, and I don't need to deal with that. Also, I'm not sure if the barn owner will keep her herd up near the barn during the day, and if the horses are allowed to go into the far pasture, I'll have to wade through a rocky, swift-moving creek to get her. I did wade that creek a few times and found that the footing is very tricky, and it would be only a matter of time before I slipped and fell in. That isn't pleasant in cold weather, even if I kept a change of clothes at the barn, just in case. I just don't want to go there.
Another option is to move Penny back to the barn where she lived before this barn. The main problem there is that the board is twice what I'm paying, which is why I moved Penny in the first place. It would be a severe financial strain to keep her at the old barn. And I don't know if now there's an open stall, though it would be easy enough to find out by asking the old barn owner. An advantage there would be that there's an indoor ring for winter riding when it's too icy on the trails. A disadvantage is that there's horrible mud near the gates, and once I actually got stuck in the mud and couldn't move till Penny came and saved me. I was able to lift a foot when she stood by me and I could lean on her and use her for support. She slowly and carefully walked me to the gate through the mud when she saw me in distress. I was very grateful. Ordinarily, Penny is reluctant to walk in that mud when I lead her, so she went way above and beyond the call of duty, coming to get me when she saw I was in trouble. I'll never forget that. If anyone tries to tell you that horses are incapable of being compassionate, tell them that story.
So what should I do? I e-mailed the barn owner back and asked if she could keep one of her horses with Penny, but she may not agree to that, or she would have suggested it. I also mentioned to her that I may have to leave for the winter. Why is nothing ever simple?
I'm late to the scene, as usual. We've had our share of rain the past few days, but today is sunny and bright, a beautiful fall day. My crud seems to be almost gone, I can breathe and everything!
Deb, I am sooo sorry about how things have worked out with Daisy*, you have done your best, like everyone already said, and you can do no more than that. With the boy situation, that is a tough one. It's hard to watch friends and family repeating mistakes and not be in a position to help. I'm hoping your mate, as you call him, is able to make good decisions with this. It is good that you can vent a bit about your troubles here, even typing it out can release some of the pent up emotions. Sending you my biggest hug.
Lizzie, Thanks so much for sharing your trip, what a beautiful area you went to, I love looking at all the pics. The phrase "big sky country" kept coming to mind, I bet the stars were glorious each night! I know how quick things can change with incoming snow, glad you were able to get out of there before things got too too hairy. Still, no fun driving home late at night in those conditions. Glad you are safe at home now.
Rave, I know you are hurting over the trees, I think you are a smart to remove yourself as much as you can until the deed is done. Loss is loss, and it's painful! Like Zero said, maybe some headphones would help block some of the noises? Maybe a fishing trip off the property? Hugs going out to you too.
Waving to all of my Voltie friends and back to lurking I go!
Deb, I am sooo sorry about how things have worked out with Daisy*, you have done your best, like everyone already said, and you can do no more than that. With the boy situation, that is a tough one. It's hard to watch friends and family repeating mistakes and not be in a position to help. I'm hoping your mate, as you call him, is able to make good decisions with this. It is good that you can vent a bit about your troubles here, even typing it out can release some of the pent up emotions. Sending you my biggest hug.
Lizzie, Thanks so much for sharing your trip, what a beautiful area you went to, I love looking at all the pics. The phrase "big sky country" kept coming to mind, I bet the stars were glorious each night! I know how quick things can change with incoming snow, glad you were able to get out of there before things got too too hairy. Still, no fun driving home late at night in those conditions. Glad you are safe at home now.
Rave, I know you are hurting over the trees, I think you are a smart to remove yourself as much as you can until the deed is done. Loss is loss, and it's painful! Like Zero said, maybe some headphones would help block some of the noises? Maybe a fishing trip off the property? Hugs going out to you too.
Waving to all of my Voltie friends and back to lurking I go!
Sandy, I am sorry about your dilemma. I'll be thinking of you (and penny) and your hardship.
I absolutely love and adore horses. They are very majestic creatures. They are also a herd animal, very comfortable in groups (except for a few loners). I don't understand why they wouldn't let another horse stay with her. Like another sweethearted female or something. Thats a tough situation and I'm sorry your going through that.
I absolutely love and adore horses. They are very majestic creatures. They are also a herd animal, very comfortable in groups (except for a few loners). I don't understand why they wouldn't let another horse stay with her. Like another sweethearted female or something. Thats a tough situation and I'm sorry your going through that.
That would be reasonable.
Being with others at night, and able to see and hear others during the day might ease that.
That by itself would make it worthwhile if you can afford it.
One simple answer. Life is complicated.
Deb, my son is very troubled, but getting a lot better. We live in separate units, but he is just around the corner. I am taking him to AA and NA meetings on a regular basis. Maybe your old mate could find a situation like that, or you could move out. "Either me or him."
Hey lizzie.
Haven't got much to say, but i watch from time to time.I am fine i guess.
Have fun at the dentist
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