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Cigar rebuild - PICS (Bling v2)

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  1. RjG

    RjG Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 16, 2008
    Edmonton AB Canada
    Blings are wicked, I love em. Really cold though, so they don't work great with my favorite Riskee. No vapor at all... so here's a rundown on replacing that coil. I've done several generic cigars as well. The innards are almost identical, but a bit different atomizer in a silicon sleeve.
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    Rings pull off without too much effort. Shown is​
    an aluminum rod threaded for a bit more leverage to
    wiggle it out

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    Here's the LED. There's also a very thin ground wire that​
    was soldered to the end ring


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    The ring on the other side comes off the same way​


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    Hard to see, but the LED is on, just testing,yep it still works :)


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    Atomizer innards yanked out of it's shell​


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    wire mesh peeled off carefully​



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    teeny leads left there, have to replace those​



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    The coil removed, and the bottom mesh pad​



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    acid core first, to get the silver to stick
    to the nichrome
    The white wick stuff is "fire wick" silica




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    Wound up new wick, 3.3 ohms
    (instead of 4.3 factory Ruyan, too cold)





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  2. RjG

    RjG Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 16, 2008
    Edmonton AB Canada
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    Put all the outer stuff mesh back on, and push it
    back into the shell



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    Attach the wires (nice long ones now) , push it back into the tube, solder the end ring back on and press those in too.

    All done :)




    VIDEO of working final product :
    http://members.shaw.ca/RandyG/BlingV2/BLING_V2_2.wmv
     
  3. ainako

    ainako Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 25, 2008
    Southern California
    Wow, just, wow. The amount of talent on this forum always amazes me. Stellar job!
     
  4. fenez

    fenez Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 15, 2009
    N.Y
    man that is very nice.
     
  5. BeRight

    BeRight Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Awesome-might try on my Njoy cigar when the time comes.
     
  6. kinabaloo

    kinabaloo Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Excellent intricate work and great photos.

    BTW, any thoughts on what the crusting is - on the mesh and the coil? Same crust material in each case?
     
  7. bracky1

    bracky1 Full Member

    Feb 12, 2009
    Scotland
    Thanks for this. How easy would it be to get the innards out of a generic cigar and fit a manual switch, over-riding the rubbish auto switch?
    Thanks
     
  8. D_Struct

    D_Struct Super Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 9, 2009
    Lufkin, TX
    That's really impressive.

    I'm actually looking into modding one of the Ruyan disposable cigars.
     
  9. RjG

    RjG Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 16, 2008
    Edmonton AB Canada
    The generics I have are RN ones, and they come apart the same way, same threads even. The insides look the same too, but the atomizer is a bit different design.

    I suppose you could leave the outer wire disconnected, short the vac switch out, and rig some kind of switch into the LED end.

    If you think of some better way to put in a nice switch, let me know. I have two GREAT vapin puresmoker cigars, both died from switch issues a couple weeks old :-(

    I might try an LED cap switch - I never thought of that before you asked :)
     
  10. MonkeyMonk

    MonkeyMonk Super Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 17, 2009
    Great informative pictures!!!
     
  11. bracky1

    bracky1 Full Member

    Feb 12, 2009
    Scotland
    Thanks for the reply RjG

    I was thinking more along the lines of taking the vacuum switch out completely and using that space to fit a manual switch, with a hole in the side of the cigar body for the switch to pop through.
    I'm not hugely worried about the led operating so, the right spacing and finding a suitable switch would seem to be the major issues.
     
  12. RjG

    RjG Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 16, 2008
    Edmonton AB Canada
  13. bracky1

    bracky1 Full Member

    Feb 12, 2009
    Scotland
    That's the very thing :) As with everything else it's out of stock :(
     
  14. TheBandit

    TheBandit Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    I just checked out the patent drawings for Ruyan and along with this explanation, I just wanted to run my understanding of this atomizer theory by you all.

    Firstly, it seems that the chip does most of the work. I didn't notice here or in the schematic, but you would have to have a vacuum switch to sense the change in pressure, which activates the circuit.

    The circuit allows the batteries power to go an amplifier that... and this is the part where my 15yr. old electronics training is failing me...steps down the voltage, increasing the current?

    This voltage is then applied to the Nichome, and when met with the increased resistance creates a nice current spike. This current spike converts to heat, transfers to the wick, which then transfers the heat to the mesh.

    That seems right, but like I said it's been a while, and I've been getting rusty, and I may have this all wrong and just totally made a fool of myself :p
     
  15. Nuck

    Nuck Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 14, 2009
    Ontario, Canada
    Damn RjG..great pictures. Next time I get some spare time from work I'm really gonna have to start learning how to mod this crap. It looks like way too much fun. Expect to get a flood of noob PM's when the time comes :)
     
  16. Slender

    Slender Full Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 2, 2008
    Odessa
  17. kinabaloo

    kinabaloo Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    RjG - So impressive, rebuilding the atomiser with a new coil - and getting good photos of the steps too, with informative ccomments. Good work.
     
  18. mjp808

    mjp808 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Does anyone have any idea how long they have been out of stock on the good stuff, like DSE901s and battery eCigars? Should I get my hopes up?
     
  19. kinabaloo

    kinabaloo Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    RjG - as you are able to create a new coil, have you considered changing the design further, other than going for the lower resistance? For example, using thicker wire but a longer length - so more sturdy and larger heating area.
     
  20. RjG

    RjG Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 16, 2008
    Edmonton AB Canada
    Yes, I've made several. The only change that did any good was making the cold coil in to a hot coil (ruyan specifically have cold coils, RN cigars are nice and hot).

    I've tried bigger wick, and smaller wick for mods. And wick with "tails".
    All worked worse than the original design.

    I have some thinner nichrome wire from a longtotem atomizer, but it burned out in two shots, lol

    I never tried thicker wire, since that would require a longer coil that won't fit in the hole, and it would need way more power to run it.

    I think pretty much concluded any deviation from a good working atomizer leads to a worse working one... ;-)
     
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