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Evilcon666

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Been building and vaping and cig free for 3 years now.
Went from a turtleship v2 mech to an ipv3 and happy for now lol. Always new toys and RDAS and other stuff coming out.

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Just a few questions on Clapton coils. I watched a few different builds of them. Failed miserably when I tried them and ran out of wire lol. But I learned a easier way to build them.

I watched Riptrippers do a build then watched Twisted Messed do a totally different one with twisted 28g as the wire, then wrapped with 28g over it.

Vapor Hut's video also suggested using differing gauges to build as well.

My questions are.

If I were to twist 28g wire resistance would that be equal to another gauge? For example would it make it equal to 26g 24g?

Second question.

What would the results be.... was to wrap for example 24 gauge over 26 gauge

Or 28g over 26g?

Oh side note. Is there a chart or something that I can view so I can know if I were to twist a certain gauge what would that twisted gauge now equal?

Like twisting 28g makes it equal to (x)g
Twisting 26g makes it equal to (x)g
Twisting 32g makes it equal to (x)g

Thanks for the input and answers from ahead of time.

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Evilcon666 said:
Been building and vaping and cig free for 3 years now.
Went from a turtleship v2 mech to an ipv3 and happy for now lol. Always new toys and RDAS and other stuff coming out.

Anyways....

Just a few questions on Clapton coils. I watched a few different builds of them. Failed miserably when I tried them and ran out of wire lol. But I learned a easier way to build them.

I watched Riptrippers do a build then watched Twisted Messed do a totally different one with twisted 28g as the wire, then wrapped with 28g over it.

Vapor Hut's video also suggested using differing gauges to build as well.

My questions are.

If I were to twist 28g wire resistance would that be equal to another gauge? For example would it make it equal to 26g 24g?

Second question.

What would the results be.... was to wrap for example 24 gauge over 26 gauge

Or 28g over 26g?

Oh side note. Is there a chart or something that I can view so I can know if I were to twist a certain gauge what would that twisted gauge now equal?

Like twisting 28g makes it equal to (x)g
Twisting 26g makes it equal to (x)g
Twisting 32g makes it equal to (x)g

Thanks for the input and answers from ahead of time.

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The only way to reliably tell what resistance a twisted build is is to measure the pitch (distance between each twist) and put that into steam engine. The resistance can vary quite a bit depending on pitch. Barring that, take a length of the wire needed to make your coil and put it between the positive and negative post of your atty, then use an ohmmeter or multimeter and measure the resistance.
 
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I'm curios too. What would happen if one wrapped Clapton coils close in gauges?

What if I wrapped 28g over a 26?

Or if I wrapped the 26g over 24g

I also noticed that most clapton builds the gauges differ a lot.

Like 32g over 28g.

So what would happen would the coil still get same results?


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I'm not sure about the resistance, but the ramp up time would be ungodly long if you used almost the same gauge wire to wrap the core. It's possible, but you'd have to have a lot of power going to it.
 
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I've been Lazy and bough UDS clapton wire which is on a roll 26awg Kanthal wrapped with 32 awg Kanthal. It works well but I'm a bit let down on flavour it could be better. I have had better results on flavour with dual Nichrome 2mm diameter 10 wrap coils.
That said I love the look of the clapton and I'm going to make a fused clapton single for my velocity RDA. I have 100w at full tilt available from a regulated 2x18650 mod what would be best awg for the twin centres and the outer wrap. Plus what amount of wraps keeping in mind I don't want to have to make a pot of coffee whilst it ramps up.
Lazy asking and not trying or experimenting first but I'd be thankful of an experienced claptonists view.
 
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you guys are missing the boat on all this.

First off, rip trippers is a pansy... "im gonna clapton a guitar string first, then de-core it, cuz the kanthal core is to hard to clapton (at the speed of an invalid I might add), so this makes it easier..." well, he could spend less time scamming people on junk juice and more time developing skills.

Anyway, now that I got that off my chest...

You can clapton dental-floss with a garden-hose if it tickles yer fancy... BUT, why reinvent the wheel when guys that are light-years ahead of you in experience/experimentation have already ironed-out a unanamously agreed upon framework for claptoning?.. i. e. Squidoode, Ohmboy-Ock :D, Twisted Messes, Blue-eyed Goon83, M.Terk, etc.

Clapton with at least 36... or smaller.

Its all about many, tiny juice channels.

Next, the clapton wire doesnt really add anything practical to the resistance of the wire, so do not worry about 43 or 46 gauge giving you a resistance of 8 ohms on yer Octocore Alien-Reef-Boneyard Coil. So theres no need to clapton with re-bar as far as resistance; but... did you ever notice that a simple 24-gauge coil takes longer to heat up compared to say, 28?.. thats cuz you have to consider the "amount", or "volume" of material that needs to heat up.

Furthermore, clapton wire acts as a heat sync to your core, so everyone uses thinner wire for this reason as well.

If you watch all of the videos from the following youtube channels, all the questions you could ever have X 90, will be addressed.

As these guys are doing a tutorial, youll catch all these little tips, tricks and tidbits of application/theory-based what-have-you.

Channels to check:

- The Art of Vaping
- Twisted Messes
- Local Vape (Ohmboyoc)

Notice RipTrippers isnt in the list?.. that guy is a proven "Rip"-off artist... dont get vape-Tricked by his punk-a55.


happy trails mates!!
 
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Also fitting the coils in your RDA if you don't have monster post holes. The smaller the gauge to wrap over 24,26,28 etc will make it easier.

Plus when you clapton you will venture off to staggered clapton, fused clapton, helix stapled, ribbon clapton, transformer coil and so on.

Trying to do those "other" coils wrapping with the same gauge will probably not fit.

Ramp up time is key also. Check out the coil build here on the last 20-current page and you can see all the crazy clapton builds going on.

https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...s-of-your-working-wick-and-coil-setup.382676/
 
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G-weezy said:
Also fitting the coils in your RDA if you don't have monster post holes. The smaller the gauge to wrap over 24,26,28 etc will make it easier.

Plus when you clapton you will venture off to staggered clapton, fused clapton, helix stapled, ribbon clapton, transformer coil and so on.

Trying to do those "other" coils wrapping with the same gauge will probably not fit.

Ramp up time is key also. Check out the coil build here on the last 20-current page and you can see all the crazy clapton builds going on.

https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...s-of-your-working-wick-and-coil-setup.382676/
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you are right about venturing off... man o man.

Currently though, I am having trouble claptoning 3 cores. Keeping them flat, and preventing them from collapsing into a triangle proved to be less than simple. This was my first try though (3-26Ni80 X 40gNi80)... all in preparation for the classic alien.

I read on M.Terks instagram about using a paperclip, but it did not help... perhaps it was too small or not strong enough.

Will never, ever, never, ever give up though.
 
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Penumbra said:
you are right about venturing off... man o man.

Currently though, I am having trouble claptoning 3 cores. Keeping them flat, and preventing them from collapsing into a triangle proved to be less than simple. This was my first try though (3-26Ni80 X 40gNi80)... all in preparation for the classic alien.

I read on M.Terks instagram about using a paperclip, but it did not help... perhaps it was too small or not strong enough.

Will never, ever, never, ever give up though.
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Using 3 cores couldn't you straightened them out with some pliers when they are finished? I use nylon tipped pliers to do fused claptons.
 
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Penumbra said:
Currently though, I am having trouble claptoning 3 cores. Keeping them flat, and preventing them from collapsing into a triangle proved to be less than simple.
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For a 3 core fused clapton, the only way I've found that works is fusing 1/2" stopping and pinching flat with nylon pliers. It's really impossible to keep 3 cores aligned without stopping and pinching due to the tension required. It's a lot easier to alien wrap 3 cores then to regular fuse them, as the alien wrap frames the cores keeping them aligned.
 
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Using 3 cores couldn't you straightened them out with some pliers when they are finished? I use nylon tipped pliers to do fused claptons.
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Put 1 wire in a drill hold the other end with a pair of pliers twist for 5sec bingo a straight wire do that to all the 1 at a time then try wrapping them


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