cleaning 510 attys

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Automaton

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Just so I'm sure, PGA = Pure Grain Alcohol? I'm sure it will also aid in cleaning the atty.

Yup. I use PGA in cartos, and isopropyl for atties. Isopropyl really is ideal, since it evaporates cleanly, it's just too much of a risk in a carto, with the filler packed in and confined the way it is. Inhaling isopropyl is seriously bad news.

But in an atty, it will evaporate cleanly and relatively quickly.
 

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Cozz,

I've got a bag of spent kr808d-1 cartomizers that I topped off a few times before setting aside. I assumed it was the filler material wicking that was degrading but now understand the atomizer side of the equation.

Have you used your method on cartomizers before with any success? removing and replacing the filler on these are not an option as the atty tears out too easy. Surprisingly the attys on my V4L cartos are great until they have been refilled too many times.

I have three 901 attys that all died within 2-3 days use of dripping. From the very first drip I was in love as the flavor is 10 times better than the same juice in a cart. I was heart broken when they died. After over a week back on on cartos only I just ordered (tonight) some 901 to 510 adapters and 510 attys and just came across your thread.

I will be using your method to try to revive my dead 901 attys as well as maintain my new 510s when they come in, and will test it our on spent cartos. I'll post back after I get some data.

I have no idea with cartomizers.

There's an order coming to me soonish with some KR808 stuff that I bought in order to simply try. It took me a couple of months of fooling around with atomizers to get the idea of what I could do with them. No idea whether this applies to cartomizers.

It does work well on 901 atties. I have three that I use as part of an Eluma 902 setup.

Edit: Nomad answered that question well. *poof*
 

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I used cozzicon's method, but now it just tastes stale... I can't taste the flavor at all. Wouldn't describe it as burnt... just stale. Primed with about 5 drops, puffed a few times, stale, added another, few puffs, still stale, added another... repeat until almost flooded...

I haven't really cleaned an atty since I got purge from vape the rockies..
I use 3-4 drops, wait couples seconds, blow threw cartrigde unto papertowel, wipe atty, and put atty away for the night.. Next day like brand new and no nasty taste!! best thing ever for hmm lazy non cleaning atty people like me lol

when ya use high vg or strong menthol juices, ya sometimes do have to repeat step one more time to get it all out... still well worth money, wish I knew what was in it though!!
 

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I haven't really cleaned an atty since I got purge from vape the rockies..
I use 3-4 drops, wait couples seconds, blow threw cartrigde unto papertowel, wipe atty, and put atty away for the night.. Next day like brand new and no nasty taste!! best thing ever for hmm lazy non cleaning atty people like me lol

when ya use high vg or strong menthol juices, ya sometimes do have to repeat step one more time to get it all out... still well worth money, wish I knew what was in it though!!

It's not perfect, still a really minor off taste... but 100x better than yesterday. Thanks for the tip!
 

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I tried your cleaning method on three different attys- the results were very impressive. None of them were failing but were getting very sluggish and hard to draw. After the 92% alcohol soak and rinse method as you described, they now work as good as new. I will be doing this nightly from now on-thank you very much for the great advice- nice of you to share
 

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I tried your cleaning method on three different attys- the results were very impressive. None of them were failing but were getting very sluggish and hard to draw. After the 92% alcohol soak and rinse method as you described, they now work as good as new. I will be doing this nightly from now on-thank you very much for the great advice- nice of you to share

You are welcome :)
 

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Cozz, very good video . I have been using the "soak in hot water" method and get pretty good results. Now I am very interested in trying your alcohol soak method. I am concerned about some posters complaining of paint coming off of the attys. I know that the Everclear or grain alcohol can do this. My question is will the paint come off of my Totally Wicked 510 attys? I have the white one. Aren't they made by Joye and sold to TW with the TW devil logo on it? Has anyone had a problem with the paint coming off from their TW 510? I will try this method on just one of mine and see what happens. Thanks for the great posts to Cozz and all the members!
 

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Cozz, very good video . I have been using the "soak in hot water" method and get pretty good results. Now I am very interested in trying your alcohol soak method. I am concerned about some posters complaining of paint coming off of the attys. I know that the Everclear or grain alcohol can do this. My question is will the paint come off of my Totally Wicked 510 attys? I have the white one. Aren't they made by Joye and sold to TW with the TW devil logo on it? Has anyone had a problem with the paint coming off from their TW 510? I will try this method on just one of mine and see what happens. Thanks for the great posts to Cozz and all the members!

No idea from me.

All my hardware is strict Joye or 901/902 stuff. My suspicion is that *some* rebranded Joye stuff gets a different finish.

But it's only a suspicion.
 

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No idea from me.

All my hardware is strict Joye or 901/902 stuff. My suspicion is that *some* rebranded Joye stuff gets a different finish.

But it's only a suspicion.


From TW's website:
"The White Totally Wicked 510 TITAN E-NIC is probably the best Electronic Nicotine Imitation Cigarette currently available anywhere in the world; it is the latest in a long line of products from JOYTECH one of the world’s premier designers and manufacturers of Electronic Nicotine Imitation Cigarette."
So the Titan 510 is made from Joytech who also makes the Joye 510.
I did the 91% alcohol soak and I didn't have any problems with the finish!!
I"m very happy about that.
 

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From TW's website:
"The White Totally Wicked 510 TITAN E-NIC is probably the best Electronic Nicotine Imitation Cigarette currently available anywhere in the world; it is the latest in a long line of products from JOYTECH one of the world’s premier designers and manufacturers of Electronic Nicotine Imitation Cigarette."
So the Titan 510 is made from Joytech who also makes the Joye 510.
I did the 91% alcohol soak and I didn't have any problems with the finish!!
I"m very happy about that.

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Couple to add to this. IPA is a solvant, so if the finish on the atty is a cheap finish it may very well remove it. typically it won't affect enamel finishes though.

Now those that are concerned about IPA residue. I work in the Semiconductor industry, We Use Semiconductor grade IPA (just means it has been filtered to remove more particles) for cleaning.
We use it for two reasons. IPA is naturally hydrophobic (heated IPA is used to dry wafers as a matter of fact) and dries quickly. It also Leaves NO residue.
I will not go into the levels that we are talking about here. but will say that a Flake of skin is a Killer in my industry, and that Is a HUGE HUGE particle in comparison to particles that can cause
damage.

If you can smell the alcohol then it hasn't completed drying. even then one pulse of the atty with any ipa remaining would be instantly burned off.

I am new to the vape side of things, but don't have any issue with this cleaning technique.

El
 

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Rubbing Alcohol is IPA, usually in the 68% range state side, although it is easily found up to 95% to 98% also.
I would go for the high concentration as it usually doesn't have perfumes and other impurities added.
It is also fairly easy to find ethanol based Rubbing Alcohol.

Although the Surgical Spirits sounds a little interesting and I wouldn't recommend it just from the stated composition.

A typical modern composition for Surgical Spirit BP is: ethanol, methanol, water, castor oil, methyl salicylate, diethyl phthalate. It has a strong smell of wintergreen due to the presence of the methyl salicylate.

Ethanol is grain alcohol. Methanol is wood alcohol.

The castor oil would concern me especially from a cleaning perspective, as well as the two remaining chemicals.

I personally wouldn't use it, unless I can find it with only the alcohols in it.

Thanks for finding the info. Had never heard of surgical spirits, and quite surprised that the use of methanol in human medicine is still practiced given its spotty history. (wood alcohol was commonly cut into grain alcohol during the time of prohibition to cut costs of the producer, led to blindness and up to death.

El
 
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