Clearomizer Confusion for SI Volt Auto Spinner - Larger tank suggestions

[analogkid12]

I recently purchased an SI auto volt spinner. Love the battery and have successfully used the V2 Beta Liquimax Clearos and The Kanger M3 both standard 808D threads. The SI product page for the spinner states that it has inner and outer threading, what does that mean? Can you use any other thread pattern and if so, which ones. I guess I am just looking for compatible clearomizers that work with the SI spinner Auto batteries. I have tried using a Kanger MT3S eGo Bottom Coil Clearomizer with a Thread Adapter | 808D-1 to eGo , threads on both ends properly, but when attempting to vape, get no vapor and appears the battery is not powering as the small blue light on top of the spinner does not illuminate with the drag. Would love suggestions for clearomizers with a minimum 2.0 ml capacity (prefer 3 ml), would love to just be able to change the coil like I would be able to on the Kanger MT3S and reuse the metal tank and base, really just looking for anything with a larger capacity if possible....Please help, sorry for the ramble, still relatively new to this, Thanks

 

[cindycated]

We're kinda discussing this on another thread here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/smokeless-image/422993-ego-808-clearos-work-x2-battery-revisited.html

What SI has are the X2 Clearos, T3 and mini T3.

I also read on another thread that the Kanger eVod will work with your 808 to eGo adapter here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/smokeless-image/411354-replacement-heads-got-eta-7.html#post9806738 (starts there, then read on).

I'm getting ready to try the Vision VT, and maybe what JoAnnW did with the eVod. If those don't replace cartos for me, I'll probably have to use carto tanks and drill my own holes into SI Volt XL cartos.

 

[dr_mah]

I recently purchased an SI auto volt spinner. Love the battery and have successfully used the V2 Beta Liquimax Clearos and The Kanger M3 both standard 808D threads. The SI product page for the spinner states that it has inner and outer threading, what does that mean? Can you use any other thread pattern and if so, which ones. I guess I am just looking for compatible clearomizers that work with the SI spinner Auto batteries. I have tried using a Kanger MT3S eGo Bottom Coil Clearomizer with a Thread Adapter | 808D-1 to eGo , threads on both ends properly, but when attempting to vape, get no vapor and appears the battery is not powering as the small blue light on top of the spinner does not illuminate with the drag. Would love suggestions for clearomizers with a minimum 2.0 ml capacity (prefer 3 ml), would love to just be able to change the coil like I would be able to on the Kanger MT3S and reuse the metal tank and base, really just looking for anything with a larger capacity if possible....Please help, sorry for the ramble, still relatively new to this, Thanks

Let me see if I can help a fellow CT resident here....The "inner" threading is the thread at the top of the battery, this is an 808 connection. The "outer" threading is the other set of larger diameter threads you see lower down from the top, these are standard eGo threads. Some devices attach using the top threads, some using the eGo threads.

Any auto battery needs airflow to activate the switch for it to fire. Sounds like the adapter you are using may be sealed. These won’t work with auto batteries, since a sealed adapter will stop airflow from getting thru the adapter. You need an unsealed adapter, these have the hole going thru the middle of the connecter part allowing airflow thru. I own an eGo style auto battery device from another vendor and my 808/eGo adapter (bought from evcigarettes.com) works fine with it. Other than all that wouldn't know what it could be, I'm sure someone will follow after me with some thoughts.


There's a thread in the SI forum discussing devices which attach directly to the X2/Spinner batteries and work, see Cindycated's link in the previous post.

Of course using an 808/eGo adapter will allow any device which uses standard eGo threads OR the 510 connection to attach. Using a regular 808/510 adapter allows any device using the 510 connection only.

 

[analogkid12]

Thank you so much for the information. I tried the Kanger MT3S on a small 808d manual stick battery with the 808d-1 to ego adapter I also purchased from EVcigarettes.com ( Thread Adapter | 808D-1 to eGo - EVcigarettes.com ) and it worked perfectly. Sounds like I may have a sealed adapter. Any ideas as to where I can get an unsealed adapter? Most sites I have seen do not make the distinction. Would love to use the larger capacity MT3S on my spinner with a higher voltage

Thanks again, BTW, any central CT ecig shops you know of locally? I have heard of a couple places in Branford, just wondering if any in the Hartford area you might be aware of.

Let me see if I can help a fellow CT resident here....The "inner" threading is the thread at the top of the battery, this is an 808 connection. The "outer" threading is the other set of larger diameter threads you see lower down from the top, these are standard eGo threads. Some devices attach using the top threads, some using the eGo threads.

Any auto battery needs airflow to activate the switch for it to fire. Sounds like the adapter you are using may be sealed. These won’t work with auto batteries, since a sealed adapter will stop airflow from getting thru the adapter. You need an unsealed adapter, these have the hole going thru the middle of the connecter part allowing airflow thru. I own an eGo style auto battery device from another vendor and my 808/eGo adapter (bought from evcigarettes.com) works fine with it. Other than all that wouldn't know what it could be, I'm sure someone will follow after me with some thoughts.


There's a thread in the SI forum discussing devices which attach directly to the X2/Spinner batteries and work, see Cindycated's link in the previous post.

Of course using an 808/eGo adapter will allow any device which uses standard eGo threads OR the 510 connection to attach. Using a regular 808/510 adapter allows any device using the 510 connection only.

 

[dr_mah]

Thank you so much for the information. I tried the Kanger MT3S on a small 808d manual stick battery with the 808d-1 to ego adapter I also purchased from EVcigarettes.com ( Thread Adapter | 808D-1 to eGo - EVcigarettes.com ) and it worked perfectly. Sounds like I may have a sealed adapter. Any ideas as to where I can get an unsealed adapter? Most sites I have seen do not make the distinction. Would love to use the larger capacity MT3S on my spinner with a higher voltage

Thanks again, BTW, any central CT ecig shops you know of locally? I have heard of a couple places in Branford, just wondering if any in the Hartford area you might be aware of.

Ha! mean's we've both got the same adapter and it's not the sealed variety...it's got the hole going thru the center connector part. A sealed adapter is probably the extreme exception anyway. I own a Vapor Zeus from V4L (not my main device SI, your Spinners are!), which is essentially an 808 ego style auto battery, tested and screwed my adapter on it, attach a device and it works fine. Some kind of an airflow issue happening, because your battery light isn't going on when you draw. If it were a connection problem I'd think the draw would allow your battery to light up but the device wouldn't fire. I've heard of adapters performing inconsistently on auto batteries, hopefully someone follows in with some helpful info, or maybe post the question in the "ask the vets" forum, they're good.

Like you, the only B&M's I've heard of in CT are in Branford. Never been to them. I live 10 mins south of Hartford, that's down on the shore, would be a 50 min to an hour drive for me. Around here there's nothing, none in Hartford, Wethersfield, Manchester, etc. which is kind of surprising.

 

[JoAnnW]

The 808/ego adapter that I have works beautifully when used with a manual X2 and SI Volt spinner but does not work with my auto X2s. I do not have an auto spinner but I would assume it will not work on those either.

I would also like to add... the same can be said for the 808/510 adapters when attaching 510 threaded vivi novas and UDCT tanks.

 

[analogkid12]

I sent a message to SI customer service about this issue...will let you know what they say

The 808/ego adapter that I have works beautifully when used with a manual X2 and SI Volt spinner but does not work with my auto X2s. I do not have an auto spinner but I would assume it will not work on those either.

I would also like to add... the same can be said for the 808/510 adapters when attaching 510 threaded vivi novas and UDCT tanks.

 

[cindycated]

Oh, I bet it's because SI's center posts don't have holes on the tops, huh?

 

[analogkid12]

Ok..I spoke to SI about the issue with no battery power or draw when using an 808 to ego adapter on the automatic VV spinner. Although they have yet to tell me why it does not work, they did offer a solution. I am using the MT3S Kanger clearos, they suggested I use the T3 replacement heads they sell at SI that have an 808 thread pattern. No adapter needed in that case. The only down side is it is a 1 pc head, not 2 pc with separate base like the MT3S replacements that you can buy each piece separately as needed. Giving it a shot and will let you know when I receive the SI T3 heads. Thanks to all for your help

 

[analogkid12]

Here is the link to SI 808 T3 head replacements

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[dr_mah]

Ok..I spoke to SI about the issue with no battery power or draw when using an 808 to ego adapter on the automatic VV spinner. Although they have yet to tell me why it does not work, they did offer a solution. I am using the MT3S Kanger clearos, they suggested I use the T3 replacement heads they sell at SI that have an 808 thread pattern. No adapter needed in that case. The only down side is it is a 1 pc head, not 2 pc with separate base like the MT3S replacements that you can buy each piece separately as needed. Giving it a shot and will let you know when I receive the SI T3 heads. Thanks to all for your help

Well sure, that'll definitely solve it for your MT3S's, they're just the T3 without the clear tank tube and they have 2pc coil/base. The base/coil heads (1pc/2pc doesn't matter) work on on all the Kanger T3-type products (mini T3 included), this includes the T3's and base coil/heads SI sells...would've loved them to explain why the adapter doesn't work though, that perplexes me....

 

[analogkid12]

Here is what SI CS had to say, and yes, I did try to raise the center post, still did not work...

"Hello Mark, I just spoke with my manager and he stated that because the T3 head is recessed, the center post will of the Kanger head will not reach the post of the adapter. This is why they will not function with the adapter. This is the only thing that we here in the customer service department can figure. Hopefully this helps you and anyone else who reads that thread. I'm sorry I don't have any other ideas for you, but these heads should fix your non-firing issue. "All the best, Jason

With best regards,
Smokeless Image | Jason

 

[analogkid12]

Well sure, that'll definitely solve it for your MT3S's, they're just the T3 without the clear tank tube and they have 2pc coil/base. The base/coil heads (1pc/2pc doesn't matter) work on on all the Kanger T3-type products (mini T3 included), this includes the T3's and base coil/heads SI sells...would've loved them to explain why the adapter doesn't work though, that perplexes me....

See below for SI comments

 

[dr_mah]

Here is what SI CS had to say, and yes, I did try to raise the center post, still did not work...

"Hello Mark, I just spoke with my manager and he stated that because the T3 head is recessed, the center post will of the Kanger head will not reach the post of the adapter. This is why they will not function with the adapter. This is the only thing that we here in the customer service department can figure. Hopefully this helps you and anyone else who reads that thread. I'm sorry I don't have any other ideas for you, but these heads should fix your non-firing issue. "All the best, Jason

With best regards,
Smokeless Image | Jason

But your battery wasn't lighting up..means no airflow to activate the switch, and of course the device won't fire if the battery doesn't light up. If the battery lit up and the device didn't fire, absolutely could've been the old center post contact issue...ah, forget it, all will be OK once you get your coil heads...

 

[charlzrocks]

Ok, I will say it...... if SI had a better working bottom feed tank, most of us would not be looking for something better. The T3 and mini both have leaking and gurgling problems that we as the consumer should not have to tinker with to try to get them to work better, period. There I said it.

SI, I issue you a challenge to build a FLAWLESS bottom coil tank for the X2 battery. It is high time we as the consumer were satisfied with your product and not be forced to look to other manufacturers for what we want.

 

[Jingles]

I love my mini T3s- no leaking or gurgling here and the flavor is just about the same as an EVOD. Granted they are minis, so they don't hold a lot of juice. That's O.K. with me though, since I'm a flavor junkie. I just have around eight batteries with me most of the day with different flavors in each mini T3, so I don't need huge tanks.

 

[analogkid12]

Good to know on the no leaking or gurgling on the mini T3. I wanted larger capacity and a changeable coil so the MT3S is for me. Hope they work as good. We will see, I have a ego vision spinner , some 808 T3 coils from SI (for my 808 Volt spinner auto that started this thread!) and some Kanger ego T3 coils coming, will let you know how the various coils work with the MT3S.

I love my mini T3s- no leaking or gurgling here and the flavor is just about the same as an EVOD. Granted they are minis, so they don't hold a lot of juice. That's O.K. with me though, since I'm a flavor junkie. I just have around eight batteries with me most of the day with different flavors in each mini T3, so I don't need huge tanks.

 

[EleanorR]

Jingles and I must be very special people, because (like her) I have had absolutely no leaking or gurgling with any of my skillion or so T3s and Mini-T3s.

 

[cindycated]

The mini-T3 is definitely better than the T3 IMO. I had fewer problems with those, and they hit way better. Until I dropped it. Leaks like a sieve now, and no way to replace the tube (even though I can't see any cracks). Loving the Vision VT though, and with those you can replace the tubes. I reviewed it on another thread here somewhere.