Cloud9vaping pulls Five Pawns and other liquids from the shelf after testing.

[Lemwise]

Cloud9vaping also had some liquids tested and it doesn't look good for FP in particular.
From the webpage:

It's worth noting that the 2500 ppm Acetyl Propionyl detected in the five pawns Absolute pin is the highest result that's ever been seen in any e-liquid so far - including those that tested positive in the recent Vapor Shark tests, and all the liquids tested by Dr Farsalinos in his 2014 study. It is further worth noting that the nicotine level detected on the five pawns tests was outside acceptable tolerances on half of the samples submitted. The actual lab certificates are available on request.

Liquid test results - Blog - Cloud 9 Vaping

 

[zoiDman]

Cloud9vaping also had some liquids tested and it doesn't look good for FP in particular.
From the webpage:

Liquid test results - Blog - Cloud 9 Vaping

Thank you for Posting this Lemwise.

 

[Mazinny]

About nine months ago when the Suicide Bunny thing happened, i asked them point blank if their liquid had any diacetyl and/or AP in them. Their answer was an unequivocal no, and they said their results will be on their site soon. I guess we now know why the results didn't go up.

 

[Lemwise]

Here's another titbit of info. Cloud9 says they notified FP of the results on may the 5th. So far FP hasn't released any statement. It seems they have no problem with letting people vape their garbage.

 

[GrandSam]

Jeez, you would that after deciding to charge 5 times what's it worth, they would make their juice safe. Never been a fan of FP...solely because of the price.

 

[redordead]

Unbelievingly disgusting. Nic levels way off. The most "premium" and most expensive brand there is. Terrible. Should be put on the main pages imho

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[schismz]

Great, I actually really like Gambit. So there goes Five Pawns out of my daily rotation. Anybody know the results for Milkman? I'm really liking it lately, doubtless this means it'll probably set a new world record or tie Five Pawns for most toxic sludge. Sigh.

I take it that what's left on Cloud 9's site, has been deemed safe, therefore Johnson's Creek is ok. It's starting to feeling like 2010 all over again. Is there any generalized listing of brands of e-juice and their relative ratings? I know that study which mentioned the potential dangers when Suicide Bunny got nailed, failed to list a best/safest collection, even if they didn't want to name the negative ones to trash different companies.

EDIT: OMFG Vaping Rabbit came up clean! Since they're the same company that makes Milkman, I'm hoping for the best despite the fact that it's not tested.

 

[dionysuskiss]

But they cost so much because, they make the best e-juices from the most quality ingredients.

 

[Cullin Kin]

But they cost so much because, they make the best e-juices from the most quality ingredients.

I wonder if the AP seeps in through the oak barrel aging methods they use...

 

[dionysuskiss]

I wonder if the AP seeps in through the oak barrel aging methods they use...

You better tell 5P. They seem to be clueless.

 

[schismz]

Man reading the numbers is depressing. There was the whole Suicide Bunny is evil noise a while back, but Five Pawns is running at over 6x more toxic. I guess they've set a world record for the most toxic sludge ever produced.

This was what got Suicide Bunny nailed, they're at 221-400ppm DA; some of Five Pawns is over f-----g 2500ppm.

 

[mechhunter]

Testing costs 200 dollars a pop. Five Pawns and other premium juice companies are raking in the money hand over fist. Money is not an issue for them. Greed and morality apparantly is.

Just a guess, but I think 5P already tested their liquid and witheld the results.

For the record I loved FP juice.

 

[Sergiu1967]

Okay. Now I'm flipped out. My two all day e juices are queenside and looper.
Should I flush the Queenside? How do I know that lopper is safe?
How do I know in general what brands are safe??
Help!!!

 

[Racehorse]

more discussion here:
Dimitri Goes Off on Rant About Dishonest Liquid Vendors | Page 11 | E-Cigarette Forum

 

[TKS]

Tbh, just got some unflavored from ITC, im done with most of these companies till I see official spec sheets. Surprisingly unflavored is pretty sweet tasting, not bad at all, and coil/wick (especially rayon) is lasting forever it seems.

 

[440BB]

At least the pretty bottles will look good in the curio cabinet. Too bad more thought didn't go in to their customers' safety.

 

[jrenae4]

Great, now I don't feel crazy for getting nauseated when I vaped them when everyone else loves them! The nicotine was probably way off! Wow. I never understood how people could stomach it.

I've wanted to try Vaping Rabbit for awhile, so now I think I will

 

[Falco78]

This is rather concerning.

 

[TraceyS]

FP was giving away liquids a few weeks ago on their FB page....I have almost a whole bottle of Castle Long.....but to be honest I stopped vaping most flavors when Nicoticket confirmed 'anything bad for you is good' mentality....thus selling it all. Unflavored is for meeeeeeeeeeeee!

Tracey

 

[Thrasher]

"Pawns" - what an appropriate term right about now............

Just went to reup on TFA last night. Even they list which have diac, and have started offering reformulated versions of their popular flavors for those concerned, they also now have a disclaimer about the safety unknowns regarding inhaling food flavoring as well.