I have bought alot of stuff since I started vaping. I have only posted about it a few times. I have to say Bigbuyer at Clouds of Vapor bends over backwards to make his customers happy! He went above and beyond for me. In a time when customer service has been forgotten by some I hope you will try Clouds of Vapor! I could not be any happier!
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Yep. He is an awesome guy. I met him at Vapefest.
You got the high drains doots? Let us know how they work out.
You got the high drains doots? Let us know how they work out.
I agree..
Yes, Got the High Drain 14500,, Want to see if there is a difference in them.
I have a lot of 14500's and these things are blue too.. Now all I have to do is figure out which ones Im using,, Lol without a magnifying glass standing by me at all times..
Ill let every one know...
Well they are both charged and I put one in my BB to try out.
YES> There is quite a difference IMO. They supply current much more readily to the atty for sure and for a sustained time. Hit the button and almost instant vape whereas before it would take a second or so and not give me as much vapor..
How long they last with a LR 510 on this thing, I dont know yet.
Well worth the investment, IMO...
They are definitely better than the regular Trustfires and Aws I have been using.
Now I need some 18650's..
YES> There is quite a difference IMO. They supply current much more readily to the atty for sure and for a sustained time. Hit the button and almost instant vape whereas before it would take a second or so and not give me as much vapor..
How long they last with a LR 510 on this thing, I dont know yet.
Well worth the investment, IMO...
They are definitely better than the regular Trustfires and Aws I have been using.
Now I need some 18650's..
doots,
I totally agree with your well made observations. I received my IMR batts on saturday from CoV. I really like them. I just received this am a couple of LR 510 attys. Combine those two things and put them on my MrPuffer MP1, and, WOW! really nice TH, taste, vaper, and warmth. This just keeps getting better and better!!!!!!!!!
I totally agree with your well made observations. I received my IMR batts on saturday from CoV. I really like them. I just received this am a couple of LR 510 attys. Combine those two things and put them on my MrPuffer MP1, and, WOW! really nice TH, taste, vaper, and warmth. This just keeps getting better and better!!!!!!!!!
I have heard that the battery chemistry is different than Li Ion. Don't know if this makes them safe or not. I charge my batteries when the slighest hint that vapor is changing. I am not too concerned. I used LIFEPO4s 16340 for a year without any problems at 6v..
Good to know! I only use 14500s for my box mod, so if I order them, hopefully they fit. The Ultrafires don't fit, but my AWs do. Do they look about the same size as the AWs?
they are a hair shorter than the Aws..
I found this about the batty chemistry used in there:
LiMn li-ion cells are a new breed of safe chemistry cell, available commercially as loose cells only in 16340 (RCR123) size from AW, but coming soon in 18650 size, with 18650 and 26670 sizes already available to li-ion powered tool manufactures. (they can be torn down to get at the cells, which many of us have done) This cell chemistry is similar to LiCo in that it shares the same charging requirements and has the same nominal voltage rating of 3.7V. The similarities end there. I would consider these cells to be a notch safer than the LiCo cells based purely on chemistry, as they can not generate their own oxygen during an out-gassing and therefor are incapable of accelerating their own burn in an oxygen deprived environment. (regular lithium CR123s and LiCo chemistry both share this trait of fueling their own fire when something does go wrong, with the potential to become a full blown metal fire). LiMn chemistry cells are good for responsible adult users who know to shut the light off before the battery is over-discharged, as over-discharge will reduce the cycle life of these cells. While this cell chemistry is safer, I would not consider it to be an ideal option for use in a flashlight that is given to a child to play with for fear that the cells may be ruined if the flashlight is left "on" and unattended to completely deplete the cells. Energy density on LiMn cells is about 30% less than LiCo cells, however, in the smaller RCR123 size, since they do not have a PCB consuming a large piece of real-estate (as compared with the overall size of the cell) these cells actually come surprisingly closer to the capacity of the protected RCR123 LiCo cells than do the larger LiMn cells when compared against equivalent size LiCo cells.
LiFeP04 li-ion cells are also a relatively new breed of safe chemistry cell. Commercially they are popping up in many sizes, with RCR123s being the most popular. These are a very safe cell, but suffer from the problem of not being nearly as tolerant to over-discharge as a NIMH cell would be. Since these are "safe chemistry" cells, they, Like LiMn cells, are not sold with PCB circuits to prevent over-discharge. They really do require the user to actively participate in the prevention of over-discharge to prolong the cycle life of the cells, just like the LiMn cells. I would be perfectly comfortable handing a child a light with these cells in it as far as safety is concerned, but the issue of whether or not the cells would survive the attempts to keep the light on long after the battery has gone dead is another issue all-together. As for energy density, combine these cells lower nominal voltage rating (3.2V) with roughly HALF the AH storage as compared with LiCo cells, and these have only about 1/3rd (give or take) the energy density as compared with CR123 primaries or LiCo cells.
It seems that the LiMn cells have slightly higher energy density than LiFePo4 and do not evolve o2 from the oxide chemistry of the Cobalt and others, they do not feed their own destruction.
Good luck with the new pack.
They will fit cause I just tried and they're looser than my Ultrafires. I read that the chemistry is safer also. I have used unprotected before but just get a little concerned. Probably nothing to worry about.
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I think the main danger as I have read is that you don't want to discharge past 2.5v as it would ruin the battery, but not explode or catch fire.
You would most likely not be getting any vapor at all when it reached that level of discharge.
I guess I'll find out but as you said Doots I don't think vapor production would be there at all.
I just got an e-mail from Bruce and he assured me they are safe because of the chemistry. Chemistry wasn't one of my strong suits. Thank you too Doots for the info.
I just got an e-mail from Bruce and he assured me they are safe because of the chemistry. Chemistry wasn't one of my strong suits. Thank you too Doots for the info.
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Great product those 14500 high drains!!! There is a very noticeable difference in supplied power to the atty over standard Li-ion.
One complaint about my order though........it was shipped to the wrong address. I have everything delivered to my work address and this was shipped to my house. Not a huge deal, but I had to wait to get home to charge them rather than charging them at work.
One complaint about my order though........it was shipped to the wrong address. I have everything delivered to my work address and this was shipped to my house. Not a huge deal, but I had to wait to get home to charge them rather than charging them at work.
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