Cloudy Poly carbonate Tank

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Just accidentally put my tank cracker juice in the wrong tank, vaped two short hits. Noticed then went and emptied out the tank and replaced it with non tank cracking juice in my kayfun. Is it still okay to use or should I buy a new tank? Just wondering if it's hazardous I've been hearing yes and nos everywhere so just need peoples' opinions here. It's only cloudy empty, with juice it's clear as a whistle. Just wondering how bad the damage is.
 

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Rinsed it for 2 minutes, soaked it in 99% isoproopyl alcohol for 1 minute and swashed it around then re rinsed another minute.

Yeah, I think you're OK. I'm willing to listen and be educated further on it, but it's my understanding that you're basically compromising the structure as it's an acid, and if you'd left it longer enough would have been removed that it'd crack along stress points -- but it isn't as though the plastic left is made poisonous, but it's good you dumped the eliquid instead of vaping it.
 

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I heard it continues to peel or w.e. like maiar suggests. I dumped it back to its correct bottle, and left it there as I don't think much harm was done neither did I leave it in there for the longest of time. I noticed it after leaving it in there overnight but since I didn't even spark it I didn't think much happened. I looked at stress points in high light and everything and was only slightly cloudy after the two hits I did with it, I ordered a new plastic tank just in case but wondering if it's still vapeable without dying aha.
 

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I heard it continues to peel or w.e. like maiar suggests.

The thing is, I can't see how that'd happen based on my understanding of how acids and plastic work. It isn't like there's a good layer of plastic on top of a skunky layer that has been exposed.

e.g., plastic is made of oil, which is formed into polymers out of smaller monomers. Much of it is chemically inert, it's why your gas can is plastic or isopropyl alcohol or... But some (if you want to see through them) aren't, and if you expose them to acids two things can happen: attack & absorption.

Plastics Chemical Resistance Chart | Plastics International

Attack basically means it starts breaking apart the polymers, and absorption means the plastic might pull the substance into it. However it's like dropping gold or something into an acid-bath -- the acid bath will have gold in it, but it isn't like the gold will now start leaching into water because of it.

I dumped it back to its correct bottle, and left it there as I don't think much harm was done neither

I hope you mean tank, not that you dumped it back into the bottle of eliquid that it came from. I wouldn't vape that then, you wouldn't die but I'm not 100% sure what the acid broke that plastic down into -- but that's where I err on the side of caution.
 
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I would definitely listen to smarty pants drunkenbatman. I'm just sorry this happened to you. If you knew me, it wouldn't make you feel better than I have done the same thing.
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The thing is, I can't see how that'd happen based on my understanding of how acids and plastic work. It isn't like there's a good layer of plastic on top of a skunky layer that has been exposed.

e.g., plastic is made of oil, which is formed into polymers out of smaller monomers. Much of it is chemically inert, it's why your gas can is plastic or isopropyl alcohol or... But some (if you want to see through them) aren't, and if you expose them to acids two things can happen: attack & absorption.

Plastics Chemical Resistance Chart | Plastics International

Attack basically means it starts breaking apart the polymers, and absorption means the plastic might pull the substance into it. However it's like dropping gold or something into an acid-bath -- the acid bath will have gold in it, but it isn't like the gold will now start leaching into water because of it.



I hope you mean tank, not that you dumped it back into the bottle of eliquid that it came from. I wouldn't vape that then, you wouldn't die but I'm not 100% sure what the acid broke that plastic down into -- but that's where I err on the side of caution.

When you say it like that it makes a lot of sense, but I got an extra one just in case and yes....I kind of put it back...sadly T_T its a big batch but I will probably dispose of it or perhaps vape it I don't know...T_T

I would definitely list to smarty pants drunkenbatman. I'm just sorry this happened to you. If you knew me, it wouldn't make you feel better than I have done the same thing.
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So you vaped from them still and yes...he is hella smart!
 
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When you say it like that it makes a lot of sense, but I got an extra one just in case and yes....I kind of put it back...sadly T_T its a big batch but I will probably dispose of it or perhaps vape it I don't know...T_T

Aha what you do with the eliquid with the now dissolved plastic in it is your call. A new tank makes sense if it puts your mind at ease, but I wouldn't call you crazy if you used it. I might if you didn't use it, but then used the tainted eliquid. ;)

*gives the horns*
 

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The thing is, I can't see how that'd happen based on my understanding of how acids and plastic work. It isn't like there's a good layer of plastic on top of a skunky layer that has been exposed.

e.g., plastic is made of oil, which is formed into polymers out of smaller monomers. Much of it is chemically inert, it's why your gas can is plastic or isopropyl alcohol or... But some (if you want to see through them) aren't, and if you expose them to acids two things can happen: attack & absorption.

Plastics Chemical Resistance Chart | Plastics International

Attack basically means it starts breaking apart the polymers, and absorption means the plastic might pull the substance into it. However it's like dropping gold or something into an acid-bath -- the acid bath will have gold in it, but it isn't like the gold will now start leaching into water because of it.



I hope you mean tank, not that you dumped it back into the bottle of eliquid that it came from. I wouldn't vape that then, you wouldn't die but I'm not 100% sure what the acid broke that plastic down into -- but that's where I err on the side of caution.

I would definitely list to smarty pants drunkenbatman. I'm just sorry this happened to you. If you knew me, it wouldn't make you feel better than I have done the same thing.
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Aha what you do with the eliquid with the now dissolved plastic in it is your call. A new tank makes sense if it puts your mind at ease, but I wouldn't call you crazy if you used it. I might if you didn't use it, but then used the tainted eliquid. ;)

*gives the horns*

Wise words from a the batman, I will keep this in mind. I was just thinking what the heck? As if I ruin the threads by accident I wouldn't have to go buy another one...go wait....not vape....and the slowness. But my kayfun is dry hitting like no tomorrow need help with that aha. got any advice? Furthermore I'm a creamy vape type of guy (pause) and I just know there's hazardous chemicals so a few ml won't do no harm as its not my main vape anyways (fruitpunch...does not get easier) aha. My main vape is still in progress as I plan on mainly vaping Alice in Vapeland's Zombie Apocalypse due to the raging reviews.

I replace my tank when cloudy like that. Kayfun tanks are only a dollar a piece from FastTech and free shipping. I buy 20 of them at a time. I will not buy any plastic tank unless I can order extra tanks for it at the same time.

Just picked one up off of ebay for 4.50 didn't seem too bad as mine's the xl tank.
 

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I vaped once and did that, cinnamon. Its the polycarbonate slowly deterioating. From where the juice is.

Get a glassomizer. Youll be better for it. Just grab a protank or aspire.

Yeah I have 2 aspires. but it was a mistake nonetheless on my kayfun. So I vape tank crackers in the aspires and non crackers in the kayfun. As any tank crackers are not all day vapes for me
 
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