Cloupor Mini Mod 30W

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Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Or even that you have to create an account to use a code- what a nice way to get some email addresses. The fact that this is the 2nd time in a week or so, and add in all the bad reviews they have....I would bet something foul is in the air.

Definitely sketchy. My email receipt state that I paid $31.74, but I confirmed with PayPal that only $21.04 was authorized (I paid extra for a tracking number). I'm with KTMRider though...I'm not sure why we are giving these folks our money. :)
 

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Would a Panasonic ncr18650PF (10 amp) be enough for the mini cloupor (http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/batteries-chargers/469979-panasonic-ncr18650pf.html)

According to Watts - volts - amps - ohms conversion calculator even at 30W and 0.5 ohm i should only draw 7.74596669, which should be enough.
But would the chip handle it ? Or should i order some other batteries like LG

I generally use a kayfun lite plus v2, (1.2 - 1.3 ohm - 11-12W) but also got a kanger subtank coming in. I am gonna use the rebuildable base anyway at 1.2 ohms or so. So not really going to subohm
 

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Just when you thought the cloupor mini was gonna steal the thunder from the istick, along comes another contender from heat vape called the "Defender" check this puppy out. production model will be a 36watt with a 2600mah lipo battery Looks pretty slick to me and priced at $35
http://youtu.be/Xh6FImdFrSo

I saw this yesterday. kinda like it... @ KTM, it fires straight out of sleep lol ;)
 

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Would a Panasonic ncr18650PF (10 amp) be enough for the mini cloupor (http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/batteries-chargers/469979-panasonic-ncr18650pf.html)

According to Watts - volts - amps - ohms conversion calculator even at 30W and 0.5 ohm i should only draw 7.74596669, which should be enough.
But would the chip handle it ? Or should i order some other batteries like LG

I generally use a kayfun lite plus v2, (1.2 - 1.3 ohm - 11-12W) but also got a kanger subtank coming in. I am gonna use the rebuildable base anyway at 1.2 ohms or so. So not really going to subohm

At 30W on a full charge you'll be pulling 7.94A from the battery assuming 90% board efficiency, regardless of resistance. Atomizer resistance in a regulated, variable wattage mod has no affect on battery current drain (amps drawn from the battery). At 30W with battery voltage of 3.6V you'll be pulling 9.26A. If voltage goes much lower than that you'll be right up against your battery's 10A limit at 30W.

The simple Ohm's Law calculators are not applicable to variable wattage mods. Rather, use Steam Engine's battery drain calculator.

Battery drain | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators
 

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Are these three Samsung batteries people are recommending?
 

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At 30W on a full charge you'll be pulling 7.94A from the battery assuming 90% board efficiency, regardless of resistance. Atomizer resistance in a regulated, variable wattage mod has no affect on battery current drain (amps drawn from the battery). At 30W with battery voltage of 3.6V you'll be pulling 9.26A. If voltage goes much lower than that you'll be right up against your battery's 10A limit at 30W.

The simple Ohm's Law calculators are not applicable to variable wattage mods. Rather, use Steam Engine's battery drain calculator.

Battery drain | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators

Ow did not know that one, but if i stay at around 15w tops i'll should be safe, but going to order som inr-18650-25r's anyway, its just it arrived at home and i want to test it already with my kayfun at 11-12w :)

I just do not want to damage the mod by using a lesser battery or so
 
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All the above is true......but one should also consider Battery Lag. In general, the lower Amp-rated (and more so, lesser quality) batteries will exhibit a more significant lag/sag in voltage each time the fire button is depressed. I've seen this first hand in a number of different high wattage regulated devices. Specifically, Efest purples sag quite a bit more drastically than say, the Samsung 25r's and Sony VTC4/5's.
 

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Are these three Samsung batteries people are recommending?

Yep.


Ow did not know that one, but if i stay at around 15w tops i'll should be safe, but going to order som inr-18650-25r's anyway, its just it arrived at home and i want to test it already with my kayfun at 11-12w :)

I just do not want to damage the mod by using a lesser battery or so

Most likely, the mod will just reset.
 

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Yep.

Most likely, the mod will just reset.


It works with the ncr18650PF batteries at 11W just fine. I could not wait, but i did order some LG 20amp batteries
Anyway its my first box mod, but i do like it alot, it has a nice touch and does what it is supposed to do
 

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Would a Panasonic ncr18650PF (10 amp) be enough for the mini cloupor (http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/batteries-chargers/469979-panasonic-ncr18650pf.html)

According to Watts - volts - amps - ohms conversion calculator even at 30W and 0.5 ohm i should only draw 7.74596669, which should be enough.
But would the chip handle it ? Or should i order some other batteries like LG

I generally use a kayfun lite plus v2, (1.2 - 1.3 ohm - 11-12W) but also got a kanger subtank coming in. I am gonna use the rebuildable base anyway at 1.2 ohms or so. So not really going to subohm

With regulated mods ohms don't really matter when calculating the amp draw, you need to take into account the efficiency of the buck-boost circuitry, and amp draw will increase as battery power decreases (because you're pushing the batteries harder to get the same power out of them).

According to steam-engine.org, with an 90% efficient device you're fine at 30w when the battery is fully charged. When the battery's down to 3.2v, however, you're drawing 10.42 amps, a bit more than the cdr of the Panasonic pf.
 

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With regulated mods ohms don't really matter when calculating the amp draw, you need to take into account the efficiency of the buck-boost circuitry, and amp draw will increase as battery power decreases (because you're pushing the batteries harder to get the same power out of them).

According to steam-engine.org, with an 90% efficient device you're fine at 30w when the battery is fully charged. When the battery's down to 3.2v, however, you're drawing 10.42 amps, a bit more than the cdr of the Panasonic pf.

This is simple to calculate on your own. Watts-In-Watts-Out: Max Wattage Output, chipset efficiency and low-voltage battery cut-off. That's all you need. Assuming the Mini chipset's efficiency is 90% (like KenD's example):

30+(30*.10)/3.2=10.3125

Batteries degrade slightly as they age. Li-Ions also have increasing voltage drop as you reach their maximum current limit.


Manufacturers tend to over-spec batts for the above two reasons and attempt to ward off litigious personalities and fools.


I haven't seen Cloupor's specs for this chipset. Has anyone seen an efficiency rating, low-voltage cut-off or max current draw?
 
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