Cold weather and tank atomizers

[MattyTny]

I live in New York and the weather has been cold recently, low 30s to 40s. I've noticed if I left my MVP and kayfun in the truck for extended hours it doesn't perform very well when cold. I've had to hold the battery and RTA in each hand to warm them up.

I vape velvet cloud vapors and their juice is composed of VG and distilled water. I was wondering if this has any impact as well. I notice the juice is much thicker, probably lending hand to wicking issues.

Anyone have similar experiences? I've read that a cold battery doesn't perform as well. The cold tank on the other hand is what bothers me since a fine wick job that yields air bubbles starts to stop working well. I also use rayon as a wick.

I'll probably start brining my gear into work so they stay room temperature.

 

[The Ocelot]

Tanks can be fussy when they get too cold. I keep my house very cold and it something I deal with every year. If you don't take the time to warm them up they will gurgle, spit and sometimes leak. My conclusion has been that the tanks (mine are mostly glass, a few metal) keep the juice cold and the coil can't warm it fast enough to wick properly. Think about it - there's cold juice in a cold tank and the coil(s) are fighting an uphill battle.

 

[MattyTny]

Thanks for the response. I also feel the pull tighten up with the cold thick liquid, I'll probably end up bringing my battery and RTA inside for now on. My RDA seems to do better, although the heat change causes a lot of popping/crackling for the first few draws.

Maybe a small heated container or a thick knitted material will help if exposed to the cold.

 

[AndriaD]

Thanks for the response. I also feel the pull tighten up with the cold thick liquid, I'll probably end up bringing my battery and RTA inside for now on. My RDA seems to do better, although the heat change causes a lot of popping/crackling for the first few draws.

Maybe a small heated container or a thick knitted material will help if exposed to the cold.

Another thing you may notice, when bringing a mod+atty in/out of radical temp differences, is perhaps a small leak -- I saw it this summer when I'd be outside in 90+ degrees, then come in to 75-ish -- and sometimes the temp differences between indoor/outdoor in the winter are far greater. It wasn't a great deal, just a slight ooze from someplace; it was a Kayfun, so I suspect the air hole.

Andria

 

[Foggyroomz]

I work outside year round and I carry my SVD with a protank2 on me in subzero temps. I use those hand warmer packet things in my carhartt pocket to keep the liquid from becoming like sherbert LOL! works really good at making sure the battery doesn't drain prematurely too. This year I'm probably going to carry my 100 watt box mod and a big dripper atty and see how that works in the cold. I never leave my vapes in my vehicle regardless of the temperature ever, and that's probably like an OCD thing or something I guess. I have a special case for all my stuff and I will put it in my locker at work or bring it in the house after work but never in my vehicle. I wouldn't leave my kids or animals in a vehicle and my vapes are my babies so they don't get left in it either LOL!

 

[cocacola31173]

I have Kayfuns and have noticed they are fussy when the weather changes,,,for me especially if its stormy outside. I think it has something to do with the pressure. I always make sure to keep spare Protanks around for when they don't behave.

The summer however they are wonderful!

 

[SweeneyTodd79]

Things we know for sure about temperature, oil, and batteries:

1: Oils get thicker in lower temperatures. This is why they say to use different oils in some engines, and why oil comes in xWy wieght, it actually lists how thick it will be at different temperatures.

2: Batteries can get sluggish or lose power when they are cold. Ironically, electricity likes the cold just fine... but a power cell can flop in the cold.

3: The greater the temperature change for an oil, the greater the chance of it 'breaking down'. Instead of doing what it should, if the temperature change is too great you can get separation, whus spitting out any water or other liquid contents as separate parts of the vapor.

4: Vapor + Cold = liquid. That means more condensation in the chimney and more spludder.

I can undestand that pocketing your PV might not be the best option for some people, and the lanyard solution is very much not some people's thing.

But leaving any battery operated gadget in the car at temperatures below 40 is bad maintenance.

That's my from where I sit, north of Canada

 

[Mike 586]

Another thing you may notice, when bringing a mod+atty in/out of radical temp differences, is perhaps a small leak -- I saw it this summer when I'd be outside in 90+ degrees, then come in to 75-ish -- and sometimes the temp differences between indoor/outdoor in the winter are far greater. It wasn't a great deal, just a slight ooze from someplace; it was a Kayfun, so I suspect the air hole.

Andria

I have Kayfuns and have noticed they are fussy when the weather changes,,,for me especially if its stormy outside. I think it has something to do with the pressure. I always make sure to keep spare Protanks around for when they don't behave.

The summer however they are wonderful!

I've been working in a large building occasionally going to temperature extremes, i.e. obnoxiously far below freezing temperatures (this week anyway) to boiler rooms well over 100 degrees. Anyway yeah, I've noticed two things with kayfun type devices that work on a pressure differential. A big temperature swing will make them leak, or a big pressure change will make them leak. They'll make them leak every single time.

Two ways around it for me, I carry them pointed down so the air bubble is at the build deck when going from one heat/pressure zone to another, flipping it back upright once I think its made the transition or I just use a Kraken and not worry about it at all. Though with the Kraken I just cant lay it on its side...pretty much a non issue for me.

 

[caramel]

I keep my house very cold

I envy the furry members here

 

[HMav]

The bitter winter cold won't just affect the juice, it can also reduce the effective capacity of your battery by as much as 80%. Combined with higher heat requirement for atomizing cold liquid in a cold tank, and you're having a very bad day.

Treat your vape like a delicate baby kitten and keep it close to your body heat in a padded pocket. Warm batteries are happy batteries, and warm juice wicks better, vaporizes better, and works in your tanks better.

 

[chickennuggets]

My Emow mega tanks leak really bad due to the temp changes. I have stopped taking them with me when I go out. haven't had the same trouble with my nautilus mini's though

 

[CMD-Ky]

In the winter, I have thinned my 100% VG with a little de-ionized water to keep it flowing easily.

 

[havinfun1]

I work outside all day. Use a 30W box mod with a kayfun, keep it in my shirt pocket so it is always at body temp. No leaks, battery lasts all day, vapes great.