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Soniclight: “I've basically set this switch-to-ecigs up as my Christmas present to myself giving myself enough time to read all of the feedback here and some elsewhere. I'm taking the tortoise vs. hare route, so please be patient with me. Thanks “

platinum ego set from Tasty Vapors with 2 batteries and 2 cones, atty, carto, drip tip, charger
some sample juices
some juices ( approx 120 ml)
some carts that will fit a 510 atty (MB high) and some food flavorings for DIY
some cartos
to offer you juice
tell me what nic strength, and I'll make you some
808 batteries and chargers to make most of a starter kit
plenty of little sample juices

Soniclight,

My eldest daughter suffers from occasional mild anxiety attacks. She seems almost mentally paralyzed during these events. What has helped her is for her husband to 'bear' some of her 'load' by making a decision or two for her. It seems to take enough pressure off that she can return to her normal routine.

Having said that, may I recommend that you allow the ECF to help you by sending our 'Christmas gifts' to a member of your choice. Then that member can forward the equipment/juice to you.

This will postpone your financial decision until you're ready, give you a chance to 'learn/experiment' at your own pace, provide you a head start on flavor sampling and, most importantly, reduce your cigarette consumption.

Oh, BTW, I have a couple of eGo batts and some joose to add to the above list.

Just one ol' fart trying to assist another...
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A Few Millimeters Closer to Deciding

Well, things have calmed down in my life a bit at this juncture so tiptoeing forward again with all of this. I just spent a couple of hours going through this entire thread and integrating all the other stuff I've read here at EFC into one sum-up offline document.

I'm still concerned a bit due to aforementioned dental expenses so not going to dive in this very second, but the Riva 510 and LibertyFlights seems the best fit for me as starting point (actual starter kit to be decided). I'll be P.M.ing a couple of my "moderator mentors" here within the next week or so to get some final feedback and how to proceed on some of the generous offers proffered.

The Psychological Side of All of This

"When one moves toward love, all that is not of love will surface to be healed or released. ." ~ Anonymous

Now as some have probably noticed...

I can seem to be somewhat of a see-saw in terms of decision-making. But it's not that I'm fickle though I certainly have some problems. While the surface decisions of what and where to get stuff is a large enough load for a newbie, the truth is that perhaps the bulk of my hesitancy is frankly based on the fear that it may not work for me.

Nothing unique to me but there is some loaded history about when I stopped smoking for a few years back in the early 80s as well as a couple of botched attempts to even just cut down in the late 90s. In one sense, cigs have been an alternative to pharmaceutical medication (which messed with my mind and system more than any cigs ever did).

Therefore there is some apprehension of what could happen once I start cutting out all of those MAOI and whatever other chemical crap that analogs have in them. But on the "smoker's behavioral level," the best approach for me would be what has been suggested here: a graceful phasing-in to vaping progressively cutting down on analogs at a level I can handle.

So part of this seeming (pardon the un-intended pun) dragging out of my decision is simple: I have been and still am essentially prepping myself psychologically. I'm not saying that my situation is special but I do have to be mindful of possible Pandora's Box consequences of such a major decision on more levels than one.

In short, there are various mixed emotions going that need to be honored while gently steering myself by the hope and promise that this will ultimately be good for me on all those levels.
 
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Its understandable.Just go for it,take it slow and move at your own pace but you have to just begin.You should not need any financials to begin.We are offering the set up and juices to start.All you have to commit to right now is agreeing to take the stuff and give it a go.If you like it then you can make your choices and purchases.If not then nothing is lost.I plan to include some juice samples and Im sure Salemgold will do the same.Just try it out and see what types of flavors you like and you can make an informed order when your ready.Dont buy a thing yet.Just PM us and try it.Then decide.Im not pushing you at all.I just want you to realize that its only a commitment to try.It may be awesome and you might love it,lol.If not,then nothings lost.

If anyone would like to share with Sonic,I can send stuff when he gives me his address.Just let me know if I can help.
 
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Sonic, my best advice is to not think of it as a way to quit smoking. It is a substitute for smoking. Every time you vape instead of lighting a cigarette, it's a win, but you don't have to stop smoking immediately or completely. In fact, it may take some trial and error to end up with the equipment, juice flavor and nicotine level that makes you think, "I'd rather vape right now than smoke a cigarette."

Don't put so much pressure on yourself. {{{hugs}}}
 
Keyzgirl - Thanks again. I'll be in touch within a day or so. In process of soon consulting with my dentist to see how urgent this situation with my tooth is or is not. Ergo how much dough it's gonna take; this is important to me the issue of diving into vaping with or not withstanding. Having a total net worth of about $1000 left over after normal monthly expenses requires some penny-pinch budgeting--as well as some basic faith-in-life :eek:)
 
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Hi soniclight..i am also a retiree like U(just passed my 60)..but i am in a diff position financially..my advise to U ..please start using e-cig ASAP..this device is so good if U R a smoker..immediate benefits U will experience from day 1..i am a smoker for over 30 yrs( i took up smoking from my ex-wife and has got her an e-cig kit) and now vaping for 8 months(wish i started earlier,but was in a dark until i found ECF)..i see members have come together to get U started on e-cig(do accept from them and i am sure "a thank you " is all that they want from U as acknowledgement..no ifs and buts Vaping is the solution to better health care even now..maybe like U & me..our lungs and god knows what other ailments we have..brought on by smoking,cigarettes..so please do accept the gifts from members to get U started on electronic cigarette..it takes time to understand & use the device properly..learn from reading up here & if U need help..we all here for U..regards mafig ps this yr alone i attended 3 funerals and 1 wedding..my elder bro passed away with lung cancer,my sis-in-law's lung cancer from passive smoking
 

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Just read your post and I too am about your age, on SS Disability (major anxiety and depression) as is my husband (kidney failure) and I know what it's like to live as cheaply as possible. Cigarettes, to me, were an expense I don't need - I couldn't even justify it. But, as so many of us are here on this forum, I'm hooked on the habit of smoking - something! I've vaped for almost two weeks and I enjoyed it MORE than smoking analogs. I'm new to this also and the kit I bought just was not that good but even at that I stayed off cigarettes for almost 2 weeks and I'm a pack/day (or less) smoker. I didn't miss the cigarettes ONE BIT. However, I'm sending my kit back for a refund and these nice people here have pointed me in a different direction so until I get my new kit I'm back to smoking Marlboros. And let me tell u, I'M NOT ENJOYING IT ONE BIT!!! They stink, I stink, my mouth tastes horrible, and I MISS MY VAPES!! My husband is a smoker also and I hope to get him started on vaping but he's one of these "there's a sucker in every crowd" and is still leary about the whole vaping experience even though he did like how they tasted so there is hope. I, like you, am not a big lung-filler, just like the throat hit. You hang in there, make the investment and I'm sure you'll be glad and happy with the result. My parents too were smokers but it wasn't the cause of their deaths but I know it didn't help. I'll be 58 in February, started smoking when I was 18, and I just don't want to say "I have smoked cigarettes for 40 years" - omgosh! It's all psychological but "39 years" sounds better to me - LOL! Kind of like age - 59 sounds better than 60 even though we're almost there. Just wanted to comment and let u know I believe vaping is the way to quit smoking for those of us who have tried and almost killed someone in the process!! Take care.
 

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Its understandable.Just go for it,take it slow and move at your own pace but you have to just begin.You should not need any financials to begin.We are offering the set up and juices to start.All you have to commit to right now is agreeing to take the stuff and give it a go.If you like it then you can make your choices and purchases.If not then nothing is lost.I plan to include some juice samples and Im sure Salemgold will do the same.Just try it out and see what types of flavors you like and you can make an informed order when your ready.Dont buy a thing yet.Just PM us and try it.Then decide.Im not pushing you at all.I just want you to realize that its only a commitment to try.It may be awesome and you might love it,lol.If not,then nothings lost.

If anyone would like to share with Sonic,I can send stuff when he gives me his address.Just let me know if I can help.
I would like to share, if the offer is accepted, I have a few carto's I would be willing to share, 510 threaded. This way he can try and find out what he likes or doesn't like and save money until he knows what he likes. Let me know what you need and I can mail it to you, then when you have every thing together you can mail it to him.
 
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It really is amazing to me how many of us older folks have kicked the habit recently. I am 61 and loving every vaping minute! My step daughter just got my original starter kit I was no longer using and is starting to vape too, now maybe grandson will want to vape too as he showed an interest. This is so fun turning people onto ecigs :) No matter what age, we can make a difference :) bnrk
 
It really is amazing to me how many of us older folks have kicked the habit recently. I am 61 and loving every vaping minute! My step daughter just got my original starter kit I was no longer using and is starting to vape too, now maybe grandson will want to vape too as he showed an interest. This is so fun turning people onto ecigs :) No matter what age, we can make a difference :) bnrk

Indeed. Heartening too.
And speaking of which....

Got a lil' tribute to all of you here at this new thread.
No need to post there, just inhale it :eek:)

A THANK YOU
 

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It really is amazing to me how many of us older folks have kicked the habit recently. I am 61 and loving every vaping minute! My step daughter just got my original starter kit I was no longer using and is starting to vape too, now maybe grandson will want to vape too as he showed an interest. This is so fun turning people onto ecigs :) No matter what age, we can make a difference :) bnrk

Hey bnrkwest - I'm going to take exception to that "older folks" comment (I'm not far behind u in age) - LOL!! But seriously, I guess sometimes we have the mindset that "oh well, I've already smoked cigarettes for so long that the damage is already done and, besides, something's going to get you anyway". I originally started looking into e-cigs for financial reasons but after being off analogs almost 2 weeks I was amazed at how things SMELLED and TASTED! I've tried to quit in the past (cold turkey) but I was too busy being a collosal nervous wreck and wanting someone to pick a fight with me to notice the difference not smoking can have. So yeah, we "older folks" can say "better late than never"! Take care and congrats to you on putting down the nasty "butts"!
 

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Thank you, Soniclight, (I won't post there, per your request..Got it here instead LOL).
Your post here has probably been a great help to a lot of new people, there were a lot of questions that came up that I'm sure have helped a lot of new members, as well as some not so new, like myself. And it showed how really supportive we can be as a community. We will be here waiting to see how your journey continues, my Friend.
 

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You guys are awesome-- this is a beautiful tribute to this forum. Stop it people--I cry easily.

Sonic I hope you accept what is being offered here when you are ready to.( I know its hard to believe how kind people are here but I had a firsthand experience myself on PIF when I ran out of cartos two vapers in my home in the first few weeks and no money.) You won't regret trying. After accepting the help there are ways to make this as affordable as possible---certainly much more affordable than smoking. I wish you luck- this thread has really touched my heart.
 

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Sonic. I'm not sure if this may help you or not or if you've already started vaping or what's going on.

I'm pretty sure you've just had enough personal information and I'd like to tell you about my vaping "almost-success" story and tell you a little about myself.

I'm only a mere 20 years old and I don't have much to offer to society. After graduating High School I tried going to college to become a Psychological Therapist I wanted to deal mainly with people that have had horrific things done to them. (ie: Rape, murder witness, etc) I got scared and decided not to do it (thankfully before I filled out anything) I got a job at a parking garage called "Standard Parking" in Windsor Locks, Connecticut. I basically sat in a small 5ft by 5ft booth with heating & AC and a hot/cold water machine. I started smoking the beginning of my senior year. I was about 1 pack a day until my job at standard parking. Oh, I also forgot to mention that this was a third shift job, 5 days a week 12am - 8am. Anyways, during my first month I was already up to 2 packs a day. As you could imagine, not many flights come through Bradley Airport at night. I only averaged maybe 30-40 customers per night. Maybe 20 minutes worth the work. I was allowed to step outside my booth and smoke a cigarette if I wanted. So whenever there wasn't a customer you could sure as hell bet on your life I was standing right next to that sand-filled bucket chain smoking away on my Marlboro Menthol 100s. I quickly realized I needed to roll my own cigarettes. I decided to be a real cheap-o. I bought a crank roller (30 bucks) 5 (5ounce) bags of mint pipe tobacco (6.59 each) and 3 cartons of menthol tubes (2.50 each) So, as you could imagine I pretty much had an army of cigarettes just begging me to smoke them and I did. I went from 3 packs a day from that first month. The NEXT day I smoked 4 and a half packs. The next? 5 and a half. The next day was a full 6 packs. I had a cigarette in my mouth from when I woke up right up til I went to bed. Even while I smoked a cigarette in my garage I decided to pee outside (I live in a pretty concealed house, nobody can see you from the road) in the bushes. just to avoid having to put my cigarette out and go inside.

I also have chronic anxiety which is the reason for my speech impediment. My anxiety is just all the time. I always have to play with something. As a kid I always chewed on pencils or pens or any type of plastic whether it was a McDonald's straw or a Coca-Cola bottle cap. I always had to have something in my mouth at all times or I just freaked out. I never wanted to start smoking but ever since I was 16 I always had the feeling "One day this pen cap or straw is going to turn into a cigarette" Two years or so later it did. One of my newer friends saw me chewing a pen cap and just offered me a cigarette. You know Big Dan wanted to look cool "Hell yeah I'll smoke it!" I lit it up and smoked it like a champ. I coughed a couple times but I managed to finish it even though it looked disgusting. I regret doing that every day of my life. From that day on I was a smoker. I'm completely aware that one cigarette doesn't make you addicted but now EVERYBODY who was at that party was going to offer me cigarettes when they saw me outside of school. Sure enough they day. I decided to call myself a "social smoker" I was only letting it happen and I gave it a loose-ended term with loose-ended boundaries. So I decided I would only smoke when I hung out with my friends and only if they offered me one. Which wouldn't have been that bad if I didn't live in the town of Tobacco Barons. You see, I live in Suffield, Connecticut. This is a small town of about 13,000 people and there's a tobacco farm or more on almost every street. Just to give you an example, I passed by 7 farms on my 5 minute drive to school every morning. Anyways, with that being said. All of my friends were fairly well off and had 20 dollars a day for "lunch money" So they had no problem giving me cigarette after cigarette after cigarette. I was smoking a pack of my friend's cigarettes whenever they hung out with me which was all day all the time because what else is an 18 year old in a farming town supposed to do? The only local entertainment was the local skate park and I don't even skate board.. So life was boring.

I find that now is a good time to say that I also have a very fast-paced racing memory. I think of one thing, then I think of another in a snap. So that's why my story is kind of jumpy. I apologize for that. Back to the story.

Anyways. So you can see that I was an 18 year old teenager with NOTHING to do but hang out by the rail road tracks (maybe a 300 yard walk from my friend's house) We had about 10 lawn-chairs set up, a BBQ Charcoal grill and a fire pit. After we got out of school we would go home, take a shower do home work (if we even felt like it. I sure as hell never did) Then go to Chris' house and chain smoke around the fire. I quickly learned that my parents could never find out about my smoking so I always carried Listerine and body spray/deodorant in my backpack to get rid of the smell on my body and in my breath when I went home. I kept on 1 pack a day until I got my job at Standard Parking. The mere isolation just made me smoke cig after cig after cig after cig and I couldn't stop. After my first month I told my mother that I was a smoker and she was very angry of course. But my mother basically said "Go ahead, but I hope you know you're killing yourself" and me being myself was like "whatever, I'm gunna go smoke one right now in the garage" and she said "ok have fun!" I went and smoked one. That was the same day I went out and bought my rolling stuff (as stated before) After 7 months of smoking 6 packs a day I got laid of from Standard Parking. They closed down one of their many lots, Lot 5B. They had the parking garage, Lot 1, Lot 3, 4, 5A, 5B and 5C. 5C and 5A were rented out to a Taxi Company and the others were used. Lot 5B, being so far from the air port was usually never used and was shut down. Since this company was 24/7 with one booth there were 3 shifts that covered it. I was 2nd last in the seniority ranks. Only one person was hired after I was. So I got the boot. I now had to depend on my poor mother to spot me ( I did the math, about 7 dollars a day) to support my filthy habbit. It's been a year since Sept. 23rd.

It has been 24 days and 21 hours since my last ENJOYED cigarette. (approximately) I've smoked cigarettes since then, but they were disgusting and I didn't even like them.

Anyways, I'm sure everyone reading this is getting very bored and wants me to sum it up so here it is. On that day, my grandmother randomly showed up at my house with an electronic cigarette from "Nicotek" that she purchased at a gas station. The kit came in a little aluminum box and came with three cartomizers, 1 battery (automatic) and a USB charger. I tried it and it took some getting used to but I stuck with it and vaped until the battery died. I immediately went outside and chainsmoked while the battery charged. After 2 hours I went back inside and vaped some more. The next day I begged my mother to buy me another gas station eCig so I wouldn't have to smoke analogs during charge-ups.

I've accumulated 1 Nicotek battery 1 nicotek carto (it's still going strong, haha. I lost the other two.) 2 Cig2o Batteries and 20 cartos (still going) and a Revolver Infiniti Ion Deluxe Starter kit (don't buy this, it's horrible) with a PCC, 5 cartos, 5 carts and an atty w/ wall adapter and mini-usb cord to charge the PCC. The revolver is gross but it came with 30mLs of menthol which have lasted me this long.

I have just ordered the E-Power 14650 1050mAh Kit I just gave you the link because I didn't feel like typing the stuff that came with it. I also purchased some juices in 3mL samples (total of 10 flavors) which are still being shipped along with my e-power.


Anyways, I just wanted to let you know that if I can quit smoking almost on the dot via an electronic cigarette when I was a 6 pack a day smoker for almost a year. I would recommend an electronic cigarette to anybody I know.

I hope you're able to quit soon,
-Dan


EDIT: Wow after reading that, I realized how many typographical errors are in there. I apologize, haha. To get the summary. I was smoking 6 packs a day for almost a year and I pretty much switched to electronic cigarettes the day I got my first one.
 
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The kindness of everyone here is overwhelming me and I am not even the OP. America is full of wonderful grateful folks willing to help out one another. I am in awe!

Soniclight, did you read my mind? Your experience is so familiar to me. The panic and fear that struck me whenever I thought about ditching my perceived best friend, cigarettes. Lucky for me I found these wonderful folks and stories much like yours that gave me hope. Be easy on yourself, take your time, you can accomplish everything you have asked for. No doubt.

Thank you all from the bottom of my heart and thank you Soniclight for posting your concerns. All of it helps someone, at sometime....
 

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Hey bnrkwest - I'm going to take exception to that "older folks" comment (I'm not far behind u in age) - LOL!! But seriously, I guess sometimes we have the mindset that "oh well, I've already smoked cigarettes for so long that the damage is already done and, besides, something's going to get you anyway". I originally started looking into e-cigs for financial reasons but after being off analogs almost 2 weeks I was amazed at how things SMELLED and TASTED! I've tried to quit in the past (cold turkey) but I was too busy being a collosal nervous wreck and wanting someone to pick a fight with me to notice the difference not smoking can have. So yeah, we "older folks" can say "better late than never"! Take care and congrats to you on putting down the nasty "butts"!

LOL I hate that term older folks myself, because my brain still says I am 25 ha ha! But my bod sometimes tells me different. But I feel so good not smoking, I feel 10 yrs younger, so lets see I am really only 51! YIPPE!!! And you are so right, better late than never :) bnrk
 

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Amazing life story. Thanks for spewing all your guts. I hope that I don't sound sarchastic or anything, but that was REALLY amazing. Thanks :)


....aaaand I'm a forum noob....

No problem. I kind of have a hard time opening up to people in real life and this forums has so many nice, supportive and helpful members. If you ask me. ECF should be a smoking cessation option, haha! :) Everyone is so helpful!
 

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Soniclight

As someone who has suffered from anxiety and some pretty bad panic attacks in the past myself, let me just say that e-cigs are better than analogs by a long shot. You still get the calming nicotine and the sensation. But I would recommend breathing long and deep not short and fast. This applies to vaping and analogs. The nicotine will calm you down more if you breath it in deep and slow. But it's way better with vaping.

Of course I don't have time for anxiety anymore. So I don't.

You're choice in a Riva 510 is the best choice. The prices are great, the two batteries will last you all day and the system is versatile. Remember that the federal government has recently classified vaping as a tobacco product rather than a drug. They forced the FDA to lift import bans and so long as there is money to be made, you'll be able to find what you need for years to come. The market has increased 400% between 2009 and 2010 alone. It's only going to get bigger.

From one Vegas editor to another (I started with Vegas Video 3) you have nothing to lose and everything to gain by transitioning to e-cigs. Consider it a cross dissolve to a better scene. :D Happy vaping.
 
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