confused on vv....

[Ladiekali]

ok please help me understand what changing the voltage actually does. i'm trying to figure out if this is something i want to invest in or not.

does it make it hotter, flavor taste stronger? i think i read somewhere that the voltage remains consistant till the battery dies. Please help me out here.

i need another battery, and i'm wondering if i should get a vv or just stick to what i got.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

It means you can change the voltage. some ejuices taste better at a higher voltage, other at a lower voltage. With my provari's I usually just use 3.0ohm cartomizer because I can switch the voltage to where I like it. If you get a vv device(believe me it is worth it) play around with it. You would be surprise at some juices taste like crap on say 3.7 but turn it up to 4 or so and the taste completely changes.

Hope this helps.


p.s. When someone refers to finding their sweet spot, it means that they have found the right voltage for that particular ejuice.

 

[Baditude]

As Sugar & Spice explained, variable voltage allows you to adjust the temperature of the heating coil. This is useful to adjust the voltage to each different flavor you have. It is also useful to adjust the heat content of the vapor; some people prefer a warmer vape and others like myself prefer a cooler vape. You are also able to adjust voltage to different ohm attachments.

Regulated mods, also known as variable voltage or VV/variable wattage mods, use booster circuitry to accomplish this. The various models do this more or less better than others. The Provari is the most accurate. It's patented Accuset technology monitors the battery's voltage continuously, and adjusts the voltage that the user set on the run with 1% accuracey. You will get the same set voltage from the beginning of a battery until it needs to be replaced. Unlike a set voltage battery like an eGo or mechanical mod whose vaping performance goes gradually downhill as the battery's voltage drops.

For more detailed explanations on variable voltage, check out the articles in this link: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...unately-im-no-sherlock-ohms.html#post10765581

 

[AttyPops]

You adjust the heat of a frying pan by turning the dial on the stove.

Some things low heat, some medium, some high. Depends on the nature of the things. Yes?

Same for vaping.

In the OLD days, and for some current setups, you had to select the proper resistance coil (that's the ohms thing) to limit the electricity and change the heat. And you can't adjust it for different juices. It is what it is. The regulated e-cigs try to maintain X volts, but that's consistency not adjustment. And the mech ones follow battery voltage which changes as the cell is depleted.

With regulated VV....(Or VW) you can adjust the heat and it will also keep it consistent. And adjusting it gives you a better vape than just "being in the ballpark".

 

[wilsonlab]

ok please help me understand what changing the voltage actually does. i'm trying to figure out if this is something i want to invest in or not.

does it make it hotter, flavor taste stronger? i think i read somewhere that the voltage remains consistant till the battery dies. Please help me out here.

i need another battery, and i'm wondering if i should get a vv or just stick to what i got.

I would definitely invest in variable voltage. Heres a quick lesson on how your vaporizer works. Assuming you use a tank style setup, you have a battery and a tank with eliquid and an atomizer inside it. The atomizer is the thing that heats and it has a wick in it that soaks up the liquid. Wattage is the amount of power being produced, pretty much the more wattage the warmer it gets. Your battery produces volts/voltage/V and a non variable voltage battery generally runs at 3.7V. The atomizer has coils which are wrapped to be rated at a certain resistance called ohms. The lower the resistance the better the flow, in a sense, and it creates more watts/heat at a lower voltage with a lower resistance atomizer. Depending on the tank you have you usually can buy different ohm atomizers. Heres how voltage and resistance/ohms affects watts/heat output. watts= volts*volts/ohms. So, with your non variable voltage battery at 3.7V your eliquid is vaping at 3.7*3.7/2.5 = 5.476 watts or "heat level". The vaping "sweet spot is considered to be 8 watts. Many say it produces the optimal cloud/throat hit/taste ratio. I personally vape at 8.8 watts, think thats the best for my all day vape flavor. I like other flavors at different levels. So with a non vv battery you're stuck at that 5.476 power level, with the only other option being getting a lower ohm aomizer. I run 1.8 ohm in my kanger pro tank II so with a non vv at 3.7v your wattage would be (3.7*3.7)/1.8 = 7.6 watts. But, why not spend the $20 and try adjusting the voltage to see what wattage you like your eliquid vaped at. It completely changes flavors, throat hit, and cloud size. Its fun and addictive. I recommend a simple ego twist and a kanger pro tank II or the itaste vv v3 is nice I use both.

 

[Ladiekali]

wow everyone thanks so much. i definately NEED a vv now haha.
I'm currently using a halo triton 650. I've gone with halo because everything else has been too complicating to figure out. I know total newbie here though.

I have been looking at the triton vv. I thought about going with ego but there are too many to know which is legit. And what's compatible with what. Halo's website was easy to decipher what was what. and what went with what. Although the customer service there is pretty much NON existant. So they are NO help what so ever.

I have no stores locally that i have been able to find. so all my research is limited to online. which has been very exhausting in the short 3 weeks that i've started this. first with white cloud, then south beach smoke, then halo g6, then halo triton, again all in about 3 weeks. so my funds are getting limited.

any suggestions on sticking with Halo? since i have a charger it will be $35 for my battery. Or would i maybe be better off with one of these ego twists?

thanks so much every one. my brain has become scrambled with all this new info.

 

[Baditude]

All the devices that you listed are proprietary devices that pretty much only their gear works with their setups, and are not likely compatible with other vendors's gear.

Going with an eGo class battery, which has a much wider selection and more universally compatible gear from multiple vendors, you would be making a wiser choice in finding other attachments when you feel like advancing farther into vaping.

I understand your confusion as a novice. We've all been there, done that. If you like, I'll suggest an ideal eGo battery setup from a well known and reputable vendor approved by ECF.

A Good Starter's Setup for a Beginning Vapor

 

[Ladiekali]

is that the link to a store? or is there another link?

 

[Ladiekali]

sorry it was taking forever to load on my ipad haha. Yes i really just see too many options to get started.
I can't even seem to find where the ecf approved retailers are lol. i know they are here some where. I think i really am just that brain fried. and now anxious. I would definately appreciate guidance!

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

At the top of every page of this forum there is menu. Click on forum suppliers. This will bring you to a page that lists website and ecf forums. There are lots of them. So scroll down the page and check out a few that catch your eye.

 

[Baditude]

is that the link to a store? or is there another link?

It is a link to one of my blogs that I created to help novice vapors get a good start with vaping. Within that article is a link to the AltSmoke store where you can order online.

 

[MikeWhy]

If your budget allows, consider a mod with an ohm meter first. This probably means spending a bit more for a VV/VW (variable watts). This way, you can know what each of your coils actually measure, and then set the voltage on your VV batts correctly.

For example, I have two iClear16's from the same batch that meter out at 2.1 and 2.3. If I had figured volts for 8.5 watts using the labeled nominal resistance of 2.0 ohms, the result would be 8.1 and 7.4 watts respectively. The one running a bit cool at 8 watts would be OK, but the second would be too cold for my liking. The seemingly small difference ends up being noticeable.

Constant power is what you want. Power translates to heat, and heat is what makes the vapor. Set wattage to suit the juice.

Holding constant power is easy with a VW. I like to set the VV Spinners to match. They're easier to carry in jeans pockets than the much larger MVP brick.

 

[Train2]

One other benefit - your coils may vary. Even if the box says 2.4, some will REALLY be 2.2 and many will be 2.6, etc. The VV lets you adjust for this, and get a good vape anyway.
Here's a good vendor with a good selection of simple VV batteries.
here's another.
There are, of course, dozens and dozens, but it sounded like you hoped for a referral

 

[RedNBlack]

ok please help me understand what changing the voltage actually does. i'm trying to figure out if this is something i want to invest in or not.

does it make it hotter, flavor taste stronger? i think i read somewhere that the voltage remains consistant till the battery dies. Please help me out here.

i need another battery, and i'm wondering if i should get a vv or just stick to what i got.

Hey There Ladiekali,
If you have a battery that can adjust voltages, you can manually adjust to fit the ohms of the "tank" on your battery.
Yes, if you are looking for the next battery, go for the VV battery, or one that does VV/VW, just the next step in the "hobby evolution"
If I can sweet talk the better half, I want to add a couple of
https://www.vaperite.com/ego-batter...-batteries/innokin-itaste-vv-battery-kit.html
to our "hobby" collection. These will adjust to what ever "tank" we put on them. Just the next step in "our evolution" on the vape ride.

 

[Ladiekali]

I love you all!

Ask and you shall recieve. I was lost now i am found! Hahaha
Hot diggity.

My funds are tight so i think anything with a meter reader ( or whatever its called) will have to wait for taxes.

Train2 thanks for the link, at minimal it shows me what i needed and explained the differences of tanks and such.
Really really appreciate it.

 

[slackhouse]

After all of my ''testing'' the itaste mvp works for me...

 

[Ladiekali]

another question.
kanger evod and kanger MT3.
the description looks the same other than one holds 2ml and the other 3ml. but it seems the evod is the most reccomended.
why is that?

I'm still torn on Halo VV, eGo Twist or the Vision Spinner.
Seems to me the Halo VV is reliable but limited on battery and limited on tanks and has a top coil clearo
the Ego twist has uglier colors Haha, is good quality but hard to read Voltage and has bottom coil clearo
and the vision spinner is easy to read, great colors, but is fragile and has the BC as well. but also cheapest route considering the battery.

am i correct with this so far?

 

[Ladiekali]

If your budget allows, consider a mod with an ohm meter first. This probably means spending a bit more for a VV/VW (variable watts). This way, you can know what each of your coils actually measure, and then set the voltage on your VV batts correctly.

For example, I have two iClear16's from the same batch that meter out at 2.1 and 2.3. If I had figured volts for 8.5 watts using the labeled nominal resistance of 2.0 ohms, the result would be 8.1 and 7.4 watts respectively. The one running a bit cool at 8 watts would be OK, but the second would be too cold for my liking. The seemingly small difference ends up being noticeable.

Constant power is what you want. Power translates to heat, and heat is what makes the vapor. Set wattage to suit the juice.

Holding constant power is easy with a VW. I like to set the VV Spinners to match. They're easier to carry in jeans pockets than the much larger MVP brick.

hahaha i just bought the itaste vv/vw.... its like i ate my own words.. hope i love it.

 

[dice57]

But of course vv & vw pvd's are worth it, why would I spend $$$$$ of dollars if they are not. lmao

The main benefit of a vv or vw device is it allows you a great choice of atomizers. If you are thinking of getting an re-buildable atomizer, rba, then it's a must have. One never gets the exact same ohm's on every coil they build. You can get pretty close with practice. Also it allows experimenting with different ohm coils. Lower ohm coils heat up faster and require less voltage for the same watt out put.

AS said previously, getting a device with a built in ohm meter is highly recommended. When you know your ohm's then you can figure out your target voltage to start your test fire at. If you have a short, many have an error code for that to, you can fiddle with the coil to ty and un-short it.

Basically, if you are extremely satisfied with what you are using, the don't give vv & rba's a second thought, but, if you are searching for more, then search till you find something you like.