Cool Fire 4 VS Kanger Subox mini VS VIP SKystorm VS Joytech Evic VTC MINI

[Hotwire]

Basically I've gone from ego-c to evolving to ego batterry with Kanger EVOD which gives more flavour and more vape.

NOW I have now tried out a Kanger subox mini set up and an Cool Fire 4 with I think it was an iSUB tank.

Okay WOW. If Ego-c is a slice of luncheon meat, EVOD is a slice of decent carvery ham but the Kanger subox and Cool Fire 4 were like pork chop even at ZERO NIC. Totally the way to go for me.

I know now that I want 3mg - zero nic juice and that if I vape it on a sub ohm set up it will be more flavourful, warmer and satisfying than anything on an ego could ever be - even a super best clearo tank at higher nic levels.

So I've narrowed it down to these 4 - using 3mg juice that I will probably cut with the 0mg juice I like to make 1.5mg juice as I'm not in it for the nicotine, just a decent amount of vapour and strong flavours and the sub ohm ones I tried blow the EVOD on an ego battery out of the water and there's no going back now.

1. Cool Fire 4 with iSUb tank

2. Kanger Subox Mini set up and tank

3. VIP Skysorm AM30

4. JOYTECH e-VIC vtc MINI with EGO ONE MEGA atomizer.

I have tried the Cool Fire 4 and the Kangertech Subox set ups but not the other 2.

I prefer the Cool Fire 4 as it has a battery included and I preferred the smaller tank to the larger Kangertech tank that comes with the SUBOX KIT as I'm not a guy who vapes a lot but when I do I want that sub ohm warmth, smoothness and flavour now.

If you think these two are better than choices 3 or 4 - let me know and also where is a good place to get a decent deal on them at the moment please. I really liked the Cool Fire 4 tbh so if that gets good feedback, I'll probably get that set-up.

Cheers

HW

 

[rallykid]

The only one I really have a personal opinion on is the Subox mini, I loved mine. I upgraded to a Sigelei 75w TC that I got for a stupid cheap price from a friend that won it and recently picked up an ipv3 li.

I still use the sub tank minis that I picked up for my Subox on my Sigelei and may actually buy another Subox just because it was so small and light and I miss it. I sold it to a friend. He uses it and the Evic VTC mini equal amounts and likes both. I also have a friend who loves his cool fire.

For me it would be the Subox but I do have about 12 spare batteries though so for me getting another 18650 unit is a non issue, if you don't have batteries and charger then it adds to the expense. I would like to have a cool fire as a backup for my travel kit as it is a small handy unit and the internal battery fills that role.

 

[Karen Powell]

I love my cool fire 4. Very solid and well built. excellent battery life. Small a very comfortable to carry around.

 

[erikbal]

I love my cool fire 4. Very solid and well built. excellent battery life. Small a very comfortable to carry around.

What resistance coil do you run with it and at what wattage?

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[Hotwire]

I was only smoking 5 a day and when on the ego, vaping less than 1ML a day, my 650MAH ego battery would last me 3 days or more. Not a chain vaper. Battery life is not a big worry, just good vapour production and deep flavour, no fiddling around and nothing breaking, easy to maintain tanks and coils and good quality product etc...

 

[rallykid]

I would go Subox mini. Great flavor and the occ .5 coils are great. Rock solid and easy to maintain. Buy a couple of Samsung 25r batteries and a good dual charger and you will be set to go for a long time with your vape style and needs.

 

[Karen Powell]

What resistance coil do you run with it and at what wattage?

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Right now I have a nautilus mini on it but sometimes the regular nautilus. All the coils are 1.8 and I vape between 14-18w.

 

[erikbal]

Right now I have a nautilus mini on it but sometimes the regular nautilus. All the coils are 1.8 and I vape between 14-18w.

Oh ok that explains the good battery life. If you were running lower resistance higher wattage itd drain faster.

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[Karen Powell]

I also have an istick 30w which is very good also.

 

[stylemessiah]

Evic VTC Mini with any other tank (even the Subtank Mini - which i call Subleak Spitty) than the tank that comes in the full kit, just buy the mod....

Evic VTC Mini will go up to 75w, has temp control (currently nickel and titanium, but apparently soon getting stainless temp control via an update - did i mention you can update the thing?) and has been 0 drama since ive had mine. I have mine topped with the trusty Lemo 2 (after the Crown tank turned out to be a major dissapointment)

Currently running a 0.09 (normally i use 0.15, but i thought id try sub 0.1x for kicks last night) nickel build (only had nickel TC wire in the drawer..i have to get some some Titanium) at 450f 35w ceiling (about 16w in use) and its the same vape every time i hit the button, which is how vaping should be, i hate fiddling.

 

[seebo]

either the Joyetech VTC or Kanger subox. IMO innokin really screwed up by not allowing removable 18650 battery on the cool fire.. perhaps their hoping the battery deteriorates so you buy another one. it's pretty much my primary reason for not considering the cool fire.. if you get the VTC i would go with just the mod and use with a subox tank.

 

[Capt.shay]

either the Joyetech VTC or Kanger subox. IMO innokin really screwed up by not allowing removable 18650 battery on the cool fire.. perhaps their hoping the battery deteriorates so you buy another one. it's pretty much my primary reason for not considering the cool fire.. if you get the VTC i would go with just the mod and use with a subox tank.

And the built in battery is one of the things I love about the CFIV. That and it's built like a tank, has great battery life and is one of the most comfortable mods I have ever held. I love the charge anywhere convenience of a built in as my daily carry (I don't trust 18650 built in chargers.) That and no battery and battery door going flying every time I drop it. By the time the battery wears out (something like a year and a half if you for an average vaper using the same mod all day, every day ) I will be ready for the another mod.

 

[herb]

Innokin makes much more solid and dependable mods than most others mentioned here , Coolfire is quality through and through and lasts.

 

[seebo]

And the built in battery is one of the things I love about the CFIV. That and it's built like a tank, has great battery life and is one of the most comfortable mods I have ever held. I love the charge anywhere convenience of a built in as my daily carry (I don't trust 18650 built in chargers.) That and no battery and battery door going flying every time I drop it. By the time the battery wears out (something like a year and a half if you for an average vaper using the same mod all day, every day ) I will be ready for the another mod.

sure it can be built like a tank on the outside, but does that mean it will be a long lasting device? it's what's in the inside that counts..
i will say that many users including myself have dropped itaste devices in the past and one drop = dead device.. the itaste vv is plagued by this problem.

just because you're getting good battery life ATM, doesn't mean it will be like that 6+ months later after a hundred of charges.. whereas a removable battery you can just put in a new one.

there is really no difference between the safety of charging a 18650 inside the device...it's more about the quality of the battery and making sure it's a protected cell. plus you can use an external charger and just put in a new one on the go. can't do that with your built in battery. besides, what kind of battery do you think it has built in? it's most likely a 18XXX cell.. nothing beats the ability to just remove the battery and pop in a fully charged one. innokin realizes this mistake and from what i can tell and read, they're thinking (or already working on) a CF V2 which will have that removable 18650 people want.

Innokin makes much more solid and dependable mods than most others mentioned here , Coolfire is quality through and through and lasts.

Uhm ok.. Joytech and Kanger have been around for years and were the first few to basically create all the devices we see today. almost all of the ecig devices, including ALL of the clones coming out today are inspired by these two companies, Joyetech and Kanger.
I'm not discrediting innokin, because i own several of their devices.. but to say the Cool Fire is a better device because it's made out of metal is just BS. as that saying goes.. you can't judge a book by it's cover..its what's in the inside that counts and it think both Kanger and Joyetech excel in this area..

cheers.

 

[Hotwire]

Yeah but if an Janty ego 650 MAH battery lasts me ages, I doubt the Coolfire 4 battery is ever going to be an issue with me really. On the ego-c even on a heavy vaping day I'd vape only a 1ml tank... I don;t chain vape, just have about the same number of draws \I'd have on a cigarette about 5 times a day, that's all. Cheers

 

[Hotwire]

I might even just get some 510 dripping atties and a drip tip for my ego battery... Then again the vape on the coolfire was like dripping plus better....

 

[Capt.shay]

i will say that many users including myself have dropped itaste devices in the past and one drop = dead device.. the itaste vv is plagued by this problem.

The level of wrong you are spouting here is almost epic. The innokin MVP is known as one of the toughest mods on the market. A device even Provari owners admit is tough as nails. The VV 3 is iconic for it's toughness with dozens of testimonials in the innokin group thread. Their toughness is legendary, I have no idea where all these "many" users who have them fail reside, but they don't post on ECF.

just because you're getting good battery life ATM, doesn't mean it will be like that 6+ months later after a hundred of charges..

Did you read what I wrote? Seriously did you read it? Do you understand how these batteries work? Have you ever done any math on the matter ? The theoretical half life of the batteries in an MVP is a year and a half under normal conditions used as a solo mod with no other devices used (as I stated above in case you missed it). Most users have reported much longer. And yes, when it's dead it has to be discarded, just like an 18650.

there is really no difference between the safety of charging a 18650 inside the device..

Aaaaaaaargh. OK, now you are just totally throwing bull excrement against the wall and hopping it sticks. There are literally hundreds of stories from varied 18650 devices that catch fire and melt down from on board charging. Just for one example, go take a look at the Mini Clapour thread. For another example, look at the hundereds of other stories listed on these pages!

Joytech and Kanger have been around for years and were the first few to basically create all the devices we see today.

Bwaaaahhhhhhhh! Ok, that one doesn't even merit a response.



To the OP, you really cant get hurt with any of these three devices (not familiar with the Skysorm). I would lean toward the CFIV for its ease of built in battery, unparalleled dependability, and for the fact that it is one of the most comfortable ergonomic mods I have ever held in my hand. Best of luck in your choice and please let us know what you decide.

 

[Hotwire]

Got CF4 and subtank nano.

I like it between 25 - 30 watts on the .5ohm coil. It says you can run this at 15-30 Watts though the guys in the shop said not to go below 30, I find 25 okay.

Question - does higher wattage = runs through juice quicker? If so I'll run it at 25W which is fine anyway.

Also what differences should I notice when I use the 1.2ohm coil which it says you should run at lower wattage -
between 12-25 Watts?

Cheers

HW

 

[Katya]

[Not my hand and not my joose).

Very preliminary observations--I got this setup recently.

I do not sub-ohm and I don't vape at high wattages. The Subtank mini is very nice as an MTL device. I'm at 10 watts with the 1.2Ω vertical coil; great flavor, great performance. I didn't like the drip tip so I switched to a taller and narrower one--works much better. I love this tank. I had to dilute my juice because 12 mg made me woozy at 10 watts. This thing packs a wallop. Sipping flavorful vapor out of this tank is just a joy. The RBA deck is easy to build and works just fine.

My new red CF4 is a delight--I'm a big fan of Innokin mods. Solid, well made, feels great in my hand, nice and heavy, but not too heavy. Took me 5 minutes to get used to that narrow edge with all the buttons. One gripe--small screen.

I'm a happy vaper--for now, at least.

 

[Katya]

Question - does higher wattage = runs through juice quicker?

Yes.