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Okay good. I’m not at all. I drive all day everyday for work so it’s like glued to my hand lol
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No you shouldn't be worried about that, I chain-vaped like crazy when I first started. I was actually astonished after a month or so when I woke up early with my vape in bed that I couldn't find, (I no longer bring my vape to bed, LOL) and I was actually able to wait a couple hours to vape because I did not want to wake the husband. Cigarettes were Right There, but I just patiently waited, it was kind of astonishing.
I still chain-vape a bit in the mornings, but I spread it over multiple vapes so I don't overheat my tank (another thing to NOT worry about right now focus on a stable vape) but I chain vaped my mod pretty heavily in the a.m. and I've been perfectly fine, in fact my health has improved. I do it because it's similar to how I smoked, so if I'm not headed somewhere in a rush, I will wake up and chain-vape with plenty of coffee.
My two leftover vices are nicotine and caffeine, and I have given up SO MANY vices, that I'm pretty content to stick with the ones I have...
If vaping is helping you quit smoking, keep at it! Nothing beats the real world experience of finding out how much better you FEEL vaping, IMO. I was amazed, on so many levels. I don't fear nicotine, I use a reasonably high level but I MTL so I'm going through maybe 5 mls of juice a day. So much less than cigarettes. Just keep at it, give yourself a month to see how you FEEL, and go from there. Don't get me wrong, I am glad vaping is being studied and I do what I can to make it as safe as possible, and nothing is without risk, but for me it was the ONE think that kept me of cigarettes (I tried everything but Chantix) and I can FEEL the health changes as I grow further and further away from my last cigarette. It's AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good luck,
Anna
I still chain-vape a bit in the mornings, but I spread it over multiple vapes so I don't overheat my tank (another thing to NOT worry about right now focus on a stable vape) but I chain vaped my mod pretty heavily in the a.m. and I've been perfectly fine, in fact my health has improved. I do it because it's similar to how I smoked, so if I'm not headed somewhere in a rush, I will wake up and chain-vape with plenty of coffee.
My two leftover vices are nicotine and caffeine, and I have given up SO MANY vices, that I'm pretty content to stick with the ones I have...
If vaping is helping you quit smoking, keep at it! Nothing beats the real world experience of finding out how much better you FEEL vaping, IMO. I was amazed, on so many levels. I don't fear nicotine, I use a reasonably high level but I MTL so I'm going through maybe 5 mls of juice a day. So much less than cigarettes. Just keep at it, give yourself a month to see how you FEEL, and go from there. Don't get me wrong, I am glad vaping is being studied and I do what I can to make it as safe as possible, and nothing is without risk, but for me it was the ONE think that kept me of cigarettes (I tried everything but Chantix) and I can FEEL the health changes as I grow further and further away from my last cigarette. It's AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good luck,
Anna
You would have to vape a hellofalot more than you smoked to get close to the same risk level as smoking.
Think about this. If vaping is 95% safer that means it represents 5% of the risk. So it would take vaping 20 TIMES more than you smoked to be near the same risk. Even then since you aren't getting any tar or the other known carcinogens I doubt even that would be as risky. Now say it takes you about 7 min to smoke a cigarette and you smoked a pack a day, that means you spent 140 minutes a day killing yourself. Twenty times that would require you to vape for 2800 minutes per day BUT there are only 1440 minutes in a day. Thus theoretically it should be impossible to vape enough to ever reach that level of risk. Unless of course you are vaping some crazy high level of nicotine juice, sub ohm, with quad coils at high temps with huge vapor production.
Think about this. If vaping is 95% safer that means it represents 5% of the risk. So it would take vaping 20 TIMES more than you smoked to be near the same risk. Even then since you aren't getting any tar or the other known carcinogens I doubt even that would be as risky. Now say it takes you about 7 min to smoke a cigarette and you smoked a pack a day, that means you spent 140 minutes a day killing yourself. Twenty times that would require you to vape for 2800 minutes per day BUT there are only 1440 minutes in a day. Thus theoretically it should be impossible to vape enough to ever reach that level of risk. Unless of course you are vaping some crazy high level of nicotine juice, sub ohm, with quad coils at high temps with huge vapor production.
Just an opinion on chain vaping in the beginning. There was a certain mental aspect for me. I had a rough beginning with a bad starter kit recommended by a b&m that was pushing that product.
A week in, I did research and found the Endura T22, which ended up as my only device for almost 2 months. I was so excited when I got something that worked. It was always in my hand. Got to the point if my wife and I were in the car, she’d tell me to put it down because I was fogging up the car.
After a few days, I realized I was responding to the excitement of having a new, successful device. I even over nicced a few times.
I then backed off and began a more normal vaping schedule.
A week in, I did research and found the Endura T22, which ended up as my only device for almost 2 months. I was so excited when I got something that worked. It was always in my hand. Got to the point if my wife and I were in the car, she’d tell me to put it down because I was fogging up the car.
After a few days, I realized I was responding to the excitement of having a new, successful device. I even over nicced a few times.
I then backed off and began a more normal vaping schedule.
I am in the same boat, my friend. Often the physical act, the "hand to mouth" habit is as hard to break as chemical addiction. I almost threw a Blu out the window by reflex, way back in the early days!
Probably questions you should ask your doctor. But I can tell you what I think and what my experience has been.
After more than 40 years of smoking more than a pack a day of cigarettes, my overall health has improved dramatically over a period of more than a year of vaping. I sleep better, breath better have more stamina and less fatigue. I no longer get short breath from climbing stairs like I used to. My primary care doctor agrees that it was a good choice vs smoking and hasn't tried to get me to stop vaping. He continually tried to get me to stop smoking.
I don't think nicotine is any worse than caffeine. As to how much, you can control that yourself by choosing the level vaped and how much you vape. I am definitely using less nicotine than when I smoked.
By vaping, I have been spared all the carbon monoxide and formaldehyde and whatever is produced by burning tobacco.
Nicotine has many positive effects on the body which we all know. Plus, it has three negative effects:
1. It increases heart rate;
2. It raises blood pressure;
3. It can decrease cell energy production; I explain. One of the steps in the conversion of ADP to ATP require folates and nicotinamide, two vitamins. Body mistakes nicotine for nicotinamide, which doesn't produce the required effect. The cell efforts to produce energy therefore are reduced by the presence of nicotine.
Everything in moderation and problems are limited.
Hope this helps,
Nicotine has many positive effects on the body which we all know. Plus, it has three negative effects:
1. It increases heart rate;
2. It raises blood pressure;
3. It can decrease cell energy production; I explain. One of the steps in the conversion of ADP to ATP require folates and nicotinamide, two vitamins. Body mistakes nicotine for nicotinamide, which doesn't produce the required effect. The cell efforts to produce energy therefore are reduced by the presence of nicotine.
Everything in moderation and problems are limited.
Hope this helps,
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If you're not hitting your vape 4-5 times every minute, you're not chain vaping. Trust me, this is something I know about.
"The Italian study concludes that vaping is statistically far safer for people than smoking tobacco — a grand total of 5,700 times less harmful, it says. Additionally, it says that e-cigarettes and the e-liquid they contain are practically harmless in comparison to old-fashioned cigarettes."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.he...ng-5700-times-less-dangerous-smoking/2166/amp
Here is the actual study:
Measurements of electronic cigarette-generated particles for the evaluation of lung cancer risk of active and passive users - ScienceDirect
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Yes! According to the Royal College of Physicians,
Royal College Of Physicians Says E-Cigarettes Can 'Prevent Almost All The Harm From Smoking'
However, some recent studies are finding increased levels of formaldehyde and acetaldehyde (both carcinogens) spiking way up past safe levels at around 420°F. So, try to avoid high temperature vaping if you're concerned. Temperature Control mods can help.
It all depends on the nicotine strength and the way you vape. The higher the nicotine concentration and the more vapor inhaled directly into the lungs, the more is absorbed into bloodstream.
Nicotine alone is a stimulant and a vasoconstrictor, so you should be careful, especially if you do have a heart condition.
Really depends on your gear and your nic level--see above. If you're a mouth-to-lung vaper and don't use any big-cloud 200W mods, you're fine. If you like to chain vape because of the hand-to-mouth fixation, lower your nic. If you don't want to chain vape--up your nic.
Your body will (hopefully) let you know when you've had too much nicotine.
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So getting insomnia is a side effect of vaping too much before bed. Well with me menthol and some flavors like grape and cola have the same effect, must be a ingredient in the flavor.
We all chained vaped at the beginning to be sure the cig craving was crushed but at least since we started in 2013 with clearos, ego stick batts and 24nic juice vaping has come a long way in delivery devices so if you think your chain vaping then upping the nic level a bit to curve the cravings. I easily sub ohm 9 nic juice and do on a regular basis but slowly cutting back again to 7nic. Juice sales is a cash cow to B&M's so research the atty your using, the ohm of the coil of choice then what nic to vape, lots around here who can help with that decision. Getting a subohm setup then coddling the 3nic vape like a tit isn't going to get you off the cig, first get off the cig with a higher nic(6, 9 or 12) then cut down after your smoke free.
Actually, it is not very addictive at all.
Nicotine Propaganda
And can be beneficial in many, many ways:
Study finds nicotine safe, helps in Alzheimer's, Parkinson's
I believe nic is addictive. I have quit trying to lower nic. Was tired of the battle. I am addicted to nicotine and I'm okay with it. I don't smoke. If the price I pay for that blessing is 9mg juice so be it.
I had read that nicotine is only addictive when smoked. That when it's used in experiments (without smoking), it's not addictive. So, it's the nic combined with whatever is in the smoke that makes it addictive.
ETA: Please, don't ask me for references. I might be able to find them. I might not.
ETA: Please, don't ask me for references. I might be able to find them. I might not.
I'm going out on the limb and agree nic is addictive. Or PG/VG is, cause I haven't smoked in 3 months but if I don't vape I'm a bigger jerk jonesing for a hit.
Get that tightening in the back, tingly shoulders neck, increased potential to go absolutely nuclear if you look at me crosseyed.
That's my study, and I'm stickin to it.
Get that tightening in the back, tingly shoulders neck, increased potential to go absolutely nuclear if you look at me crosseyed.
That's my study, and I'm stickin to it.
I've been using nic for 47+ years. The only way I found to quit smoking was to continue to use nic. Quote as much science as you want, it won't change the fact I am addicted to nicotine.
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