Couple things to clear my mind

[stols001]

I'm so glad when I switched to vaping I would never pressure myself to give up nicotine. Maybe one day that will change, but I do have Alzheimer's in my family and I'm also pretty ADHD. I don't see a huge reason to give up nicotine at this time though nor would I want to, I think it would put me at risk for smoking. Maybe that will change... Right now I am just enjoying the health benefits of vaping.

Anna

 

[redeuce]

A friend of mine quit smoking 16 years ago with gum. He would chew one piece until no flavor, throw it out, and pop another in. All day and night.
He still does the same, 16 years later.

The hobby aspect of vaping surely contributes significantly to the desire to keep doing it.

When I quit drinking beer and substituted O’ Doules I didn’t start a beer can collection.

However, The fascinating technical aspects of vaping and the interesting designs of the devices draw people to vaping like a magnet. I was determined to quit smoking, then quit vaping when I started this journey. Now it doesn’t matter. I enjoy vaping and enjoy using the equipment. The fact that I have also not smoked a few thousand cigs is nice too. Lol.

From a financial aspect, unless you are a hard core hobbyist, it is almost impossible to spend more money vaping than smoking.

 

[Beamslider]

Indeed, you would have to spend a lot on vaping to match the cost of smoking. I would have to spend around $4,000 a year to get there.

I don't even come close. By mixing my own juice I spend around $2 a week. Building my own coils, the cost a few cents apiece. I do buy mods and tanks regularly but probably not more than $600 worth in any year and usually less than that as there are lots of not hot new mods that are great and now cheap

 

[DancingHeretik]

Only time will tell if folks that NEVER SMOKED but started vaping with nicotine will end up dependent on nicotine. I agree that we that smoked are dependent on it but studies have been done that show that NEVER smokers taking nicotine did not become dependent on it.

I confess that I am dependent on nicotine. I see dependence and addiction as two different things. Several years ago I had to start taking a strong prescription pain reliever. I took them for almost a year. Coming off of those things wasn't pleasant. I actually had a physical reaction to that but managed to wean myself off of them. I have NEVER felt anything like that when I've attempted to stop smoking.

It really is a shame that even we can't seem to separate one from the other. In that case how can we ever expect non-smokers/non-vapers to understand the difference if even we can't see and understand it.

I really need to stop using the word 'addiction' instead of 'dependence'. It's just the way I've always heard it referred to. We all talk about our addictions to all sorts of silly things. It's not accurate. And, the word 'addiction' is being abused by the powers that be. I will try to stop misusing it.

We may not know yet about long term effects of vaping by never smokers. But, they have done other studies using nicotine for various purposes (like Alzheimers). Those people did not become dependent on nicotine.

I am in the downright impossible camp and that is the reason I have lots and lots of it in my freezer. I started lowering my nic. Got down to 10 but have now gone back up to at least 12 and have added a touch of WTA to the mix. even after 6 years of vaping I still felt like something was missing so was a chain vapor. The WTA's seem to be it. I am actually able to put my devices down now where before the WTA it seemed to be glued to my hand. 45+ years of smoking definitely left me dependent on the act and effect of smoking.

I'm down to 12. I'll think I'll stay right where I am. Unless I start to run low on nic. But, that's not likely. I have my stash. I'm even thinking of buying a couple more liters with my income tax refund. Why not? It's a relatively cheap way of making myself feel less anxious.

I think both caffeine and nicotine are addictive on some level. May not be physical for the main part but still both are hard to quit totally

If anything, caffeine is closer to being addictive. Only in that quitting caffeine cold turkey will give you headaches.

I'm so glad when I switched to vaping I would never pressure myself to give up nicotine. Maybe one day that will change, but I do have Alzheimer's in my family and I'm also pretty ADHD. I don't see a huge reason to give up nicotine at this time though nor would I want to, I think it would put me at risk for smoking. Maybe that will change... Right now I am just enjoying the health benefits of vaping.

Anna

My mother died of Alzheimer's in 2007. And, I have some definite ADHD/anxiety issues. Not quitting!

 

[ScottP]

I had a caffeine dependency in my 20's. I drank coke all day every day. It got to the point if I slept in on the weekends I would wake up with a headache and had to go drink one to get it to go away. I eventually broke that habit, now I drink water all day and a glass of tea with lunch and dinner. Tea has much less caffeine than coke so my intake is way down and no more caffeine headaches.

 

[tgs3]

In my experience, the results of the Royal College are correct. I began vaping in August of 2017. At that time, I had a 25/30 cigarette per day habit for over forty years. In the last week, I have averaged 5 cigarettes a day. So, I am still a dual user. But, had someone told me that I would cut my consumption so drastically six months ago, I would have said that they were delusional. Two things enabled me to do this: vaping and the support of the people in this community.

 

[stols001]

Yep just keep dual using and the more you do, the more likely you are to eventually switch over, though I have to say with the amount I was smoking (3 ppd) I'm pretty sure I would have seen some benefit even at 5 cigarettes a day. I feel the exact same way though, tg3, I would not have been able to get where I got at ALL without the support and information in this forum.



Anna

 

[ScottP]

I was smoking (3 ppd)

I was a 1ppd smoker but on rare occasion, if there was was copious amounts of alcohol involved, I would do 3ppd. The next day my lungs felt like an elephant was standing on them and breathing was bad for a full day afterwards. I could not imagine doing that daily. I never really had "hangovers" from the alcohol but my lungs sure hurt the next day.

 

[Beamslider]

I don't even like the smell of cigarette smoke anymore. Haven't even tried smoking one but bet it would be horrible now and probably get sick for a half or or so too.

 

[ScottP]

I don't even like the smell of cigarette smoke anymore. Haven't even tried smoking one but bet it would be horrible now and probably get sick for a half or or so too.

I tried one after a while of not smoking, it literally tasted like poison.

 

[stols001]

It was awful, my last days smoking I pretty much had pneumonia for 18 months try a T-Rex standing on there, honestly.

Anna

 

[RayofLight62]

Of all properties of nicotine, the one which is impressive is its psychological effect.
The noticeable increase in the ability to focus, greatly facilitates the capability to navigate out of some inner emotional thunderstorms, finding practical solutions to overwhelming situations. This is very important to many vapers / smokers.