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[wood]

I can't assume it's out-of-reach... maybe out-of-our-life-time...

Look at m _____ Maybe we need to get a hold of the m a r i j u a n a party and ask them to get some medical tests going on ecigs as being an alternative to smoking. It's logical - it's safer than analogs and safer than weed for that matter... and look where that's gone...

ooo infraction here you come
i said that word once and i wasnt allowed to post for 3 days

 

[wood]

LOL I didn't take as rude and actually got a laugh.

the us hasnt moved forward due to protest
and the uk hasnt either
its from using their heads doing some research and caring about thier citizens

In my experience forming an org doesn't automatically mean protest. It would be a way of compiling and sharing data, support and funding these endeavours. I've been very active in several orgs and I will tell you one thing from my experience- whether it's municipal, provincial or federal the Govt DOES NOT like groups being organized and that's their biggest fear when an issue comes to light.

Actually the problem in the U.S. was temporarily solved/ staved off by TW taking the FDA to court and winning over the seizure of some gear in Fla. Now the FDA is considering a different way of labeling Ecigs and TW is preparing for the next battle.
As for the U.K. it's the Nudge Unit that's advising- "It will be important to get the regulatory framework for these products right, to encourage new products, which smokers can use as safer nicotine alternatives, to be made available in the UK"
If you read through their Annual Report they mention cost efficiency and I believe they realize the present smoking cessation products are not enough. It's blatantly obvious to many govts that an aging population and growing healthcare costs are becoming a huge burden on Society and Govts.

yes but we dont need expensive lawyers to raise awareness suing anyone just makes me chuckle who are u going to sue !!
forming groups like this one here even helps us because it raises awareness provides info and offers people the alternative that works we just need our fad to catch on a little more , it will become an if everyone jumped off a bridge i would to kind of movement not so much a hire a law man movement

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

yes but we dont need expensive lawyers to raise awareness suing anyone just makes me chuckle who are u going to sue !!
forming groups like this one here even helps us because it raises awareness provides info and offers people the alternative that works we just need our fad to catch on a little more , it will become and if everyone jumped off a bridge i would to kind of movement not so much a hire a law man movement

LOL you make me chuckle. Where do I suggest hiring a lawyer or suing In 2 of the 3 orgs I've been with we had pro bono lawyers who believed in what we were doing. One lawyer actually gave up his partnership in a law firm when he was told by his partners to drop us as a client. He was with us for 14 yrs and never charged us a single dime. Never ever had to sue anyone either and in the end we were victorious. Usually the aggressor is the one who foots the bill. Organize, research, share data, collect $$ and prepare.
My last word on the subject.

 

[wood]

LOL you make me chuckle. Where do I suggest hiring a lawyer or suing In 2 of the 3 orgs I've been with we had pro bono lawyers who believed in what we were doing. One lawyer actually gave up his partnership in a law firm when he was told by his partners to drop us as a client. He was with us for 14 yrs and never charged us a single dime. Never ever had to sue anyone either and in the end we were victorious. Usually the aggressor is the one who foots the bill. Organize, research, share data, collect $$ and prepare.
My last word on the subject.

sorry for my choice of words i didnt mean u as in you yourself i just meant it as a general u as in the people who want to get lawyers , never once did i mean to insinuate you yourself wanted to hire a lawyer i meant u as in a group of people i speak well lol

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

sorry for my choice of words i didnt mean u as in you yourself i just meant it as a general u as in the people who want to get lawyers , never once did i mean to insinuate you yourself wanted to hire a lawyer i meant u as in a group of people i speak well lol

No need to apologize as I wasn't angry. Gotta stay positive and believe or not there are lots of goodhearted souls out there that are willing to lend a hand. It's just a matter of getting it all together. I noticed in perusing the chats lots of Doctors are impressed with clients and the ecig and that's a start. It's very realistic to self educate oneself in regards to the law. I've done it and am now sought after by other lawyers that are dealing with a certain issue. The issue shall remain nameless because of my wishing to remain anonymous.
Cheers and pleeze try and stay positive- ok??
Definitely may last word.

 

[wood]

always have to get the last word
lol jk my friend

 

[mopar]

no i do and we are going to start to ban together working on getting some suppliers on board and having our most reputable member of the community collect the funds stay tuned peeps. I think maybe in Canada it is time for us to take it head on.