I have been using an mvp 2 for the last 7 months with a pro tank 2 . its not a bad vape but i wanted more vapour . went into town on friday and took a look at a new vaping store. i asked the gentleman what sub ohm vaping stuff they had and he let me have a go on a defender 36w with an arctic tank. I was sold it was great, massive plumes of vapour. the defender 36w cost me 35 quid and the arctic tank 20 quid . money well spent i think. i've been running it on 35w since i got it home . it came with a three month guarantee which is most reasuring . the mvp2 is now my back up. been a while since i posted on here . anyway have a nice evening and keep vaping it only gets better.