EU Dept. of OMG: EU now developing "healthy lifestyle" policy

[AgentAnia]

Didn't take long, did it, that slide down the slippery slope? First seen in Christopher Snowden's blog: http://velvetgloveironfist.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/the-eus-lifestyle-policy.html

Links to Common Market Law Review abstract of "The Emergence of an EU Lifestyle Policy: The Case of Alcohol, tobacco and Unhealthy Diets": The Emergence of an EU Lifestyle Policy The Case of Alcohol, Tobacco and Unhealthy Diets by Alberto Alemanno, Amandine Garde :: SSRN##

 

[Uma]

OMG is right.

:running off to re bury head in the sand:

 

[NicoHolic]

Restrictions on nicotine
Restrictions on caffeine
Restrictions on alcohol
Restrictions on sweeteners
Restrictions on salt
Restrictions on meat

That which is not specifically approved is banned.

We're all accelerating down that slippery slope exponentially. Not just the EU.

 

[AgentAnia]

I have a neighbor who totally buys into this mindset. She fascinates me, and frightens me at the same time. She absolutely believes in the rightness of the attitudes implicit in ths EU "lifetsyle policy" and all laws, regulations, and pronouncements that foster it.

Slightly She also totally believes that labeling on food and hygiene products is complete and correct. We were looking at liquid nutritional supplements, since she frequently gives in to a lack of appetite. Two products: one labeled as a nutritional supplement, the second as a diet "meal replacement." The diet aid product actually contained more nutrients at higher levels; lower levels of sugar and carbs; and higher levels of protein and fiber than the supplement products. It was also less expensive. Yet because it was labeled as a weight-loss product and not a nutritional supplement, she refused to buy it. "That's for if you want to lose weight," she said.

This inability to think critically, this blind faith and unquestioning belief in science and industry, really really scares me.

 

[Uma]

So sad but true that too many people have fallen into the hypnotic state of self righteousness fed via the demeaning of others fostered via the propaganda in order to rally for the "common good". Brainwashing.
This video sums up exactly why the masses do as "instructed". This actually brings hope. This is why strong leaders like MLK broke the trances. We need strong leaders to break the spell.
The Psychology of Authority - YouTube

 

[AgentAnia]

Good find, Uma. Excellent video. And scary!

And it occurs to me that there's another aspect of this "lifestyle" regulating: what I call "healthism." Blame it on the health industry (BP, medical establishment, so-called public health) and the tobacco control industry. Healthists believe there is such a thing as perfect health, a thing to be strived for by all and achievable if one lives according to the rules set down by the health industry.

If populations will not achieve (or strive to achieve) perfect health on their own, then according to the health industry, it must be regulated and legislated so populations can be led (kicking and screaming is okay) to said state.

Me? This is my guiding principle (thank you, Hunter Thompson): “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy , what a ride!’”

 

[Uma]

+100
I couldn't agree more!

You know what's really funny? The ideologists can't see past their own "ideals". Let's say they get their way, & the world's population turns into one big cookie cutter population. It's only a matter of minutes before Mother Nature smirks and wipes them all out with one single germ. You don't mess with Mother Nature.

 

[Nermal]

Now, that's a happy thought, Uma. At least we're still (somewhere) keeping stocks of heretage seeds so one germ doesn't wipe out our hybrid grains and veggies.

 

[Uma]

Now, that's a happy thought, Uma. At least we're still (somewhere) keeping stocks of heretage seeds so one germ doesn't wipe out our hybrid grains and veggies.

Plus with a good supply of nicotine for the ailments it reduces, the colitis cancer it heals, the focus it generates, & the germs it kills, we will do well!
http://jmm.sgmjournals.org/content/49/7/675.full.pdf
Oh! And combined with the PG germ killing wonders, the world will be our oyster!
Got bunker?

 

[skoony]

Good find, Uma. Excellent video. And scary!

And it occurs to me that there's another aspect of this "lifestyle" regulating: what I call "healthism." Blame it on the health industry (BP, medical establishment, so-called public health) and the tobacco control industry. Healthists believe there is such a thing as perfect health, a thing to be strived for by all and achievable if one lives according to the rules set down by the health industry.

If populations will not achieve (or strive to achieve) perfect health on their own, then according to the health industry, it must be regulated and legislated so populations can be led (kicking and screaming is okay) to said state.

Me? This is my guiding principle (thank you, Hunter Thompson): “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy sh.., what a ride!’”

well said agent anna.
the problem is the healthist are next.seen all the anti/vitamin/suppliment viotrole being spewed about latley.
yep big pharma.when you go to an emergency room with any heart related problem chances are your going
to get about 100,000 iu's of vitamin d.vitamin b is also known to have theraputic benefits.
now all of a sudden vitamins dont do anything,or may be bad for you,or may kill you cause your cancer
loves them.
next stop healthy food.
surely this absolutley must be regulated to insure its healthyness.
you can see where this is going.

regards
mike

 

[Steamix]

Ban this, ban that, regulate here, prohibit there.

Being at optimum health is most important :

So that among the lobbyists, the highest bidder gets to shove down our collective throats whatever has been declared 'healthy' and slam into our collective heads whatever has been deemed 'worth knowing' ?

Exactly to what end ?

Docile sheep? Stopping humans from evolving? Maintaining the status quo?

Heck, if they wanna take it that far, the can go build themselves some robots and get themselves some inflatable dolls...

Quite an abhorrent thought for many - having to deal with humans capable of thinking and acting for themselves.

Politics have become such a hack'n slash, that apparantely, only sociopaths make it 'to the top' ...

 

[AgentAnia]

....Quite an abhorrent thought for many - having to deal with humans capable of thinking and acting for themselves.

Perfect example: "many" = Tobacco Control; "humans capable of thinking and acting for themselves" = vapers.

Politics have become such a hack'n slash, that apparantely, only sociopaths make it 'to the top'

I'd make that "greedy, power-hungry sociopaths."

I'm pondering when and where the tipping point will be reached, when the majority of people will start to realize that quality of life is NOT the same as perfect health and that healthism as currently preached does not guarantee -- and in fact may lessen -- quality of life .

 

[Anjaffm]

OMG is right, AgentAnia.

Well, health is the new religion.
Together with all the hatred and hysteria that usually accomplishes organized religion - because that furthers the objectives of the rich and powerful.

Rabid ANTZ?
Just change the dates on this quote:

Then, around 1550, the persecution skyrocketed. What we think of as "the Burning Times" -- the crazes, panics, and mass hysteria -- largely occurred in one century, from 1550-1650.

source: Gendercide Watch: European Witch-Hunts

(not everybody may agree with my choice of source. But I think that most will agree with what it says)

Oh yes, independent people are horrible and must be destroyed at all cost:

Many scholars have argued that it was the women who seemed most independent from patriarchal norms -- especially elderly ones living outside the parameters of the patriarchal family -- who were most vulnerable to accusations of witchcraft

As more women than men tended to survive into a dependent old age, they could also be seen disproportionately as a burden by neighbors: "The woman who was labeled a witch wanted things for herself or her household from her neighbors, but she had little to offer in return to those who were not much better off than she. Increasingly resented as an economic burden, she was also perceived by her neighbors to be the locus of a dangerous envy and verbal violence."

Smokers are such a "burden" on society, are they not?

And why do the ANTZ hate vapers?
That is easy, dears:

Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live
Exodus 22:18 in the King James Bible

(that "quote from the Holy Bible" or "word of God" is a fake by the way. It was put into the Bible in the 1500s, to serve a special purpose)

History repeats itself. Only the objects of the hatred change. It has been like that throughout history.
And once the haters have crushed their current object, they will simply proceed to the next object.
All in the interest of the rich and powerful. While their poor hate-filled sheeple have no idea of how they are being used.

....
disclaimer:
I have nothing against religion if it gives individuals hope.
But I am very much opposed to religion if it is used by the rich and powerful (of any country, any religion) to keep and further their power and their riches. While using unsuspecting people as tools to destroy all those who are a danger to those rich and powerful.

- Parallels to the ANTZ are more than obvious. -

 

[RosaJ]

OMG is right, AgentAnia.

Well, health is the new religion.
Together with all the hatred and hysteria that usually accomplishes organized religion - because that furthers the objectives of the rich and powerful.

Rabid ANTZ?
Just change the dates on this quote:



source: Gendercide Watch: European Witch-Hunts

(not everybody may agree with my choice of source. But I think that most will agree with what it says)

Oh yes, independent people are horrible and must be destroyed at all cost:





Smokers are such a "burden" on society, are they not?

And why do the ANTZ hate vapers?
That is easy, dears:

Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live
Exodus 22:18 in the King James Bible

(that "quote from the Holy Bible" or "word of God" is a fake by the way. It was put into the Bible in the 1500s, to serve a special purpose)

History repeats itself. Only the objects of the hatred change. It has been like that throughout history.
And once the haters have crushed their current object, they will simply proceed to the next object.
All in the interest of the rich and powerful. While their poor hate-filled sheeple have no idea of how they are being used.

....
disclaimer:
I have nothing against religion if it gives individuals hope.
But I am very much opposed to religion if it is used by the rich and powerful (of any country, any religion) to keep and further their power and their riches. While using unsuspecting people as tools to destroy all those who are a danger to those rich and powerful.

- Parallels to the ANTZ are more than obvious. -

I agree with you, but would change a couple of words. Replace "the rich and powerful" with "the State."

 

[Anjaffm]

I agree with you, but would change a couple of words. Replace "the rich and powerful" with "the State."

Not only the State, dear.
I would definitely say that Big Pharma and Big Tobacco are rich and powerful. And would love to remain that way. At any cost.
.. especially at the cost of other people's lives... because, to Big Pharma and Big Tobacco, other people's lives do not matter in the least.
We are expendable, to them. Completely expendable.
As one vaper once said: To the Big Money Industry, "we are roadkill".

And they love to use those little haters as tools, as well.
Silly little tools. In the service of Big Money. ... but without seeing any of that money, of course.
The little tools get only an object for their hatred. And they never realize how they are being used.

....
Oh, and in history, the ones who profited from the witchhunts and the killing of heretics, that was not the State. That was done to further and preserve the riches and the absolute power of the Church.

Now... in our times.. we the vapers are the new "heretics".
Standing between rich and powerful forces and even more riches and more power. Do not be mistaken, Rosa, dear. It is the same thing now as it was throughout history.

Death to the heretics!
Oh, and I mean "death" quite literally. Tobacco smoke can kill you.
So let us force those heretics back to smoking - and watch them die.
While filling our pockets with more and more money.

 

[Uma]

+1 Anja!

I finally saw "The Lone Ranger" costarring Johnny Depp, last night on DVD. I liked it! I had heard it was a flop, so I was expecting it to be quite boring & lifeless. Far from it! It was funny, entertaining, & in some parts even quite intensely serious. One of the most interesting to me was the "Common Good" theme, found scattered throughout the movie. So today, I googled "why was the "Lone Ranger" movie considered a flop? Interestingly enough, this link popped up. Johnny Depp, ‘Lone Ranger’ Cast Blame Movie Critics for Flop | Variety
After knowing how the media plays an important role with vaping & other politics, their responses hit a hit home run with me. This fits with what Anya was saying, except fast forward a few hundred years. It's always been there, always took untold damage, and most importantly, always been stopped once the masses awoke.

 

[Anjaffm]

+1 Anja!
...
After knowing how the media plays an important role with vaping & other politics, their responses hit a hit home run with me. This fits with what Anya was saying, except fast forward a few hundred years. It's always been there, always took untold damage, and most importantly, always been stopped once the masses awoke.

Thank you, dear
Yes, the media are very powerful. More's the pity that they are by no means a "free press" (far from it) but instead they are in the pockets of the Big Industry that pays for advertising in those media. See vaping. Big Pharma pays for ads. Big Pharma rules what is said in those media. Same here in Germany.

And as to "stopped once the masses awoke":
Reminds me of a favorite tweet of the French lately, which was often re-tweeted in English:

We marched on the Bastille to end one dictatorship. Must we march on Brussels? (= seat of the EU)

 

[Uma]

This all sews in neatly with Agenda 21, it's part of the plan. Literally.
This video is a must see for understanding Agenda 21 and how it has indeed been activated. Some towns have managed to stop it, but others are still blind as bats without radar.
By signing this Agenda, we gave up individual rights for the right of the common good. (By we, I don't mean we, but we as in stupid presidents who think with their other cigars).
This explains it in detail.
Agenda 21 EXPLAINED, full version - YouTube

 

[Anjaffm]

thank you Uma. Let me watch this when I have enough time. Sounds interesting, quite interesting!

By the way, what the heck is that "common good"? The good of Big Industry, Big Government and Big Money?
Nobody -and I mean nobody - can tell me that they actually mean the "common good" for the "common citizen". We, the citizens, are just roadkill in their way - to be driven over, on the road to more money and more power.

... and I have actually found some of those completely indoctrinated little "yes, Nanny" -sayers today, right here in ECF
Not the right place to take a little break from fighting for my life.

...........
And sorry if I sound a little aggressive today.
Being faced with complete corruption, lies, forked-tongue nonsense and a complete disregard for the health and lives of people (like myself, or actually: including myself), for weeks on end, can do that to a person.
I do not take kindly to the attempts of corrupt politicos to drive me back to tobacco, just so that they can make more bucks than they already have. It does tend to make me.. aggressive.

 

[Uma]

No apologies needed, I am in the same boat of anger.
The "common good" is the progressive socialists way of new world order. The Agenda 21 video explains part of it fully-ish. It's a long listen, but worth the enlightenment. There is no longer individual rights. No longer personal property. No longer rural living. No recreational activities, horses, pastures, golf courses, koi ponds, and eventually, people. They want the population at below 500,000 or whatever. It sounds completely crazy, & who would be so stupid as to put up with that let alone sign an agreement for it. But, it's true. It happened and is now being activated. Notice the huge push lately to drive smokers onto the killer Chantix pill...
Here is a new news blurb about yet another Calif town wanting to ban smoking in homes, including vaping because you can't vape where you can't smoke. It is being brought to the table by none other than a Global Health md. No surprise there. NetNewsledger.com - Total Smoking Bans Work Best