Diacetyl Using Vendors -- Not Trying to Cause a Panic

[bladebarrier]

So, I've recently found out that the vendor I use apparently uses flavoring with Diacetyl in it.

Now I'm not here to make accusations. And I don't want to name the vendor. It just seems strongly suggested that this is the case, and if it's true, I'm not a happy camper.

This really stinks for two reasons. First, it was my favorite flavor. Second, the vendor is almost certainly aware by now that this is a toxic chemical to inhale when heated (though ok if consumed orally).

From what I've read, Flavor Art flavorings that apply a synthetic butter taste, often contain Diacetyl.

I'm a little ...... off, to be honest. I'd rather vape plain PG+nic than buy from a vendor that knowingly uses unsafe chemicals. I certainly feel bad about recommending them to so many people.

Is there a list anywhere of vendors that use this, or some place to find a list of vendors that use only ingredients that are not clearly proven to pose serious health risks?

Thank you,

--bb

 

[2cents]

Couldn't find a list of vendors that use Diacetyl. Here's a list of companies that Don'tuse Diacetyl according to some posters. I'm sure the list is far from complete. I know that vermillion river and Backwoods Brew don't use it. They've said so on their websites. Click Here to go to the thread.

 

[hairball]

Alvinecigs
Backwoods Brew
Bluemistvaping
Clouds of Vapor
Dekang
DIY
Eastmall
Esmoke
Good Prophets
GourmetVapor
Halo
Intellicig Ecopure
Ivape.net
Johnson Creek
Juicy Liquid
Liberty Flights
MadVapes
MisterELiquid
Mrs T's Bakery
Nhaler
PrimeVaping
Totally Wicked
Strictly E-Juice
Tastyvapes
Tasty Vapor
thesmokelesshop
VapeMasters
Vapoligy
Vapor Renu
Vaportalk
Velvet Vapor
Viking Vapor
Voidmist
Want2vape
WordupEcig

 

[teslastick]

So if I vape butter juice from any vendor that is not on that list, I can die?

 

[Apocalypse*Meow]

The main Flavour Art website specifies which flavors are NOT safe to vape.

Here's something else to be aware of: if you DIY, lots of places reselling Flavour Art's stuff, do NOT specify that information, even if they're marketing it to vapers. Like ecigexpress, for example, has butter listed without the warning. Which is kind of lame. I buy from ecigexpress, but I have to use FA's site at the same time to make sure I don't accidentally buy the unsafe stuff.

 

[SonnyCrack]

I would LOVE to know which vendor it is that your talking about.. Any way you can PM me? I won't share.. But I noticed my FAVORITE vendor is not on that list and has my favorite juice..

Thanks.

edit: I looked through some of your previous posts and I think i figured out who and what juice your talking about.. I don't use them thankfully.

 

[CapableVapable]

The problem with this is...there are diacetyl substitutes/alternatives that could be every bit as harmful and if a flavor provider isn't using one, then they could be using another. Also: no real way to know if a vendor is being honest or even knows all of the stuff going into their juices.

 

[Bobbye]

Alvinecigs
Backwoods Brew
Bluemistvaping
Clouds of Vapor
Dekang
DIY
Eastmall
Esmoke
Good Prophets
GourmetVapor
Halo
Intellicig Ecopure
Ivape.net
Johnson Creek
Juicy Liquid
Liberty Flights
MadVapes
MisterELiquid
Mrs T's Bakery
Nhaler
PrimeVaping
Totally Wicked
Strictly E-Juice
Tastyvapes
Tasty Vapor
thesmokelesshop
VapeMasters
Vapoligy
Vapor Renu
Vaportalk
Velvet Vapor
Viking Vapor
Voidmist
Want2vape
WordupEcig

That list isn't up-to-date. KBV has stated they don't use it.

 

[mystal]

Is the chemical in question only found in butter type flavorings?

 

[bladebarrier]

Thank you for the responses.

I'm glad to see that a lot of the vendor's don't use it.

The vendor I was using isn't on that list, and won't be receiving my purchases in the future, and I won't continue recommending them to new vapers.

Whether or not alternatives are safer is anybody's guess, but using something that is known to be unsafe is just the type of thing that is going to cause problems for the whole vaping community. It's no better than what PM, or RJR, were doing to us before we made the switch.

--bb

 

[tybin]

i would just email them. the list is not an updated list, so who knows

 

[bladebarrier]

i would just email them. the list is not an updated list, so who knows

There's no need for me to email them. They've openly admitted that they use it, and aren't worried about the safety of it. That is directly from the owner, in their vendor forum here at ECF.

I see a lot of popular alternatives in that list. I'm sure I'll find a great juice from one of them.

 

[borockster]

They've openly admitted that they use it, and aren't worried about the safety of it. That is directly from the owner, in their vendor forum here at ECF.

Then why not do all of us vapors a favor and just tell us who it is. In the time it takes to read through the forums.....sheesh.

 

[bladebarrier]

Then why not do all of us vapors a favor and just tell us who it is. In the time it takes to read through the forums.....sheesh.

I'm not on a witch hunt, nor am I qualified to start regulating who picks what they use as ingredients. For all we know, the small amount that is in the recipe would be mostly harmless. But on the other hand, I won't be vaping their juices anymore.

I will, however, send you a PM with the answer.

 

[borockster]

I'm not on a witch hunt, nor am I qualified to start regulating who picks what they use as ingredients. For all we know, the small amount that is in the recipe would be mostly harmless. But on the other hand, I won't be vaping their juices anymore.

I will, however, send you a PM with the answer.

Thank you Sir. I appreciate the info. You are doing the community a service.

 

[classwife]

deejStuff...no diacetyl

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ers-forum/183126-deejstuff-here-part-two.html

deejStuff eLiquid, The Apocalypse can wait...

 

[bsampson]

The company openly admits the use, and isn't concerned with the safety of the product. You wouldn't really be starting a witchhunt if they don't have any problem using it. You would just be sharing open knowledge to fellow vapers who could then derive their own opinions of whether or not they will use the vendor. Isn't that what these forums are for? Sharing knowledge.

 

[Sdh]

This has been discussed numerous times...do a search on ecf regarding diacetyl and one should find answers.

 

[bladebarrier]

The company openly admits the use, and isn't concerned with the safety of the product. You wouldn't really be starting a witchhunt if they don't have any problem using it. You would just be sharing open knowledge to fellow vapers who could then derive their own opinions of whether or not they will use the vendor. Isn't that what these forums are for? Sharing knowledge.

You make a good case, but I'm sure there is more then one vendor that uses it, which is why I don't want to name and shame one specifically.

 

[Levitas]

Alien Visions doesn't use it Can't go wrong with some Boba's Bounty