Did I experience a nicotine overdose??
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Couple of people mentioning the need to drink plenty of water while vaping - this has helped me a lot and makes for a much smoother vape. I still get a tickly cough when I take in a lot, but I think I'm just getting used to it, and it's more fun with more clouds!
I still feel this tickly feeling first vape in the morning or after a cardio run. It does go away very fast though. Since you are starting your journey, keep in mind that you will feel some of the smoking cessation symptoms that we are often tempted to associate with vaping. For instance, your bronchial cilia will start working again, which will promote the clearance of your airways from the cigarette crap built up over time. This may be associated with some irritation/tickling feelings in your airways.
Personally, the thing that I really appreciated when I started vaping, few months ago, was keeping me away from analogs, thereby getting my physical condition back on track i.e. breathing, running, swimming etc... I just got the basic ego batteries and ejuice from the local smoke shop and honestly I didn't like it per se. As I am learning more about vaping topics and vaping safety, especially in here, I now have the gears and liquid bases for a very tasty, smooth, warm and enjoyable vape. Stick around, you will get there eventually!
Nic is no joke, as you found out.
I got so nic high when I got the drag down in my second week of vaping with an ego and stardust (ce-4) at 18mg.. I had to leave the job, sick and dizzy about to pass out, for fear of falling off a building.. It lasted hours.. I subsequently went down to 12 and was able to vape away and not get buzzed. I'm down to 8 right now because I'm at higher power and lung hits.
(3 years ago the first clearomizers were really really weak so 18 was a lot weaker)
I could get more buzzed with an ecig than a cigarette anyday. I believe the comparisons to cigarettes are flawed.
No one can tell you a correct answer, its not possible - time, volume, style, ect. all effect the uptake on an Individual basis. This is fact.
Its trial and error, you know 6 was too much for you now.. Next 5 then 4 then 3 whatever till you can vape and get satisfied but not sick.
Nicotine takes a different pathway through the body when vaping. Its slower to the brain and you can overdue before you realize because its not instant like smoking.
Your whole cigarette may have 6mg but half of it goes up in smoke off the tip and you have a filter too, also usually vapor clouds are larger.
The speed of your draws and if you mouth it or direct lung hit effect the nic uptake as well. It absorbs mostly in the mucous membranes like a cigar. For instance if your taking slow, long mouth hits, holding it in your mouth, and blowing out the nose the nic is taken up much more effectively, partly due to the time in contact and a larger contact area in the absorption zone.
I got so nic high when I got the drag down in my second week of vaping with an ego and stardust (ce-4) at 18mg.. I had to leave the job, sick and dizzy about to pass out, for fear of falling off a building.. It lasted hours.. I subsequently went down to 12 and was able to vape away and not get buzzed. I'm down to 8 right now because I'm at higher power and lung hits.
(3 years ago the first clearomizers were really really weak so 18 was a lot weaker)
I could get more buzzed with an ecig than a cigarette anyday. I believe the comparisons to cigarettes are flawed.
No one can tell you a correct answer, its not possible - time, volume, style, ect. all effect the uptake on an Individual basis. This is fact.
Its trial and error, you know 6 was too much for you now.. Next 5 then 4 then 3 whatever till you can vape and get satisfied but not sick.
Nicotine takes a different pathway through the body when vaping. Its slower to the brain and you can overdue before you realize because its not instant like smoking.
Your whole cigarette may have 6mg but half of it goes up in smoke off the tip and you have a filter too, also usually vapor clouds are larger.
The speed of your draws and if you mouth it or direct lung hit effect the nic uptake as well. It absorbs mostly in the mucous membranes like a cigar. For instance if your taking slow, long mouth hits, holding it in your mouth, and blowing out the nose the nic is taken up much more effectively, partly due to the time in contact and a larger contact area in the absorption zone.
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It definitely wasn't... It felt like I was suddenly having a high fever! Sounds like you experienced the same thing... I don't really like doing the mouth hits, as I guess at this point I'm still trying to imitate my cigarette smoking habits - so straight lung hits are keeping me satisfied just now. Thanks for that.
For me it's when I wake up in the middle of the night for no reason and take a vape then go back to sleep. I have woke up in the morning and thought,"Where the hell did all my juice go?"
Or the times you wake up in the middle of the night and can't find your vape only to find it in the bed next to you because you passed out while vaping.
Haha...Or the times you wake up in the middle of the night and can't find your vape only to find it in the bed next to you because you passed out while vaping.
Ah! Well I do that too! Thanks for explainingFor me it's when I wake up in the middle of the night for no reason and take a vape then go back to sleep. I have woke up in the morning and thought,"Where the hell did all my juice go?"
Or the times you wake up in the middle of the night and can't find your vape only to find it in the bed next to you because you passed out while vaping.
the problem about getting NicSic is that you think you are gonna die.... and about 1/2 hour later you wish you could...
this is one thing you will never forget... been nicsic once... dont want to feel that ever again, Id rather have a bad case of the Flu...
this is one thing you will never forget... been nicsic once... dont want to feel that ever again, Id rather have a bad case of the Flu...
Hi. I'm a new vaper (only really started giving it a chance about a week ago). I'm really getting into it now and starting to enjoy it, but I'm a little concerned about just how much nicotine I'm consuming.
A few hours ago, I chain vaped for maybe only 10 minutes (probably the same amount of drags as a regular cig) before feeling violently nauseous and feverish - was pretty scary! I never had that feeling before when I used to chain smoke regular cigarettes. Are you only meant to take a few drags of the vape at a time or something?
Either way, the feeling passed after about 20 minutes but is not something I want to experience again and has made me a little nervous to have a long vape again. Is this common when getting used to vaping? Anyone else had a similar experience at the start? All responses welcome! Thank you
(By the way I am vaping at 6mg and used to smoke between 10-15 Camel/Marlboro Lights a day).
Also something to consider, its possible someone mixed the juice too strong. Its also possible for there to be "hot spots" of nic in a juice. Its definitely more of a possibility with high vg, that's really fresh and not shaked and steeped enough. You can have pockets of concentrated nic that haven't blended in.
When learning your personal nic level, you want to base off your normal habits. The chain session you enjoy was too much at 6 mg.(if correct)... If you like to have that chain vape session regularly to get that little extra buzz without going over board, or no buzz on chains, you just keep testing lower nic till its just right. You kind of have to balance the amount you vape with the strength of the nic. Just kinda ease in so you don't get sick again, feel for the buzz starting.
Also for your reference the first clearomizers I used in the beginning (ce-4) were really bad, new atties are much more intense and deliver more flavor and nicotine. If you step up to a dripper it will also increase the nicotine taken in per draw and most reduce nic further.
The amount of power is also directly tied to the amount of nicotine taken in.
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Thanks for this. Yeah, I just ordered a few different nic strengths so I'm gonna just play around until I find what's right for me.
still on 3. i dont want to buy 0mg liquid cause its the same price and i would rather get something out of it
12 mg? Where it came from? From some rabid anti-smoking site or from some rabid pro-vaping site? Average accepted in research papers amount of nic per cigarette is 1 mg.
Vaping can easily provide more nicotine than smoking.
Rather interesting paper (even if it is from BP supporters):
Nicotine delivery, retention and pharmacokinetics from various electronic cigarettes - St.Helen - 2015 - Addiction - Wiley Online Library
It states that E-cigarettes can be highly efficient as nicotine delivery devices, delivering levels of nicotine comparable to or higher than tobacco cigarettes with similar high levels of systemic retention and that Based on pharmacokinetic considerations, e-cigarettes have the potential to produce and sustain nicotine addiction, as well as to provide an effective alternative source of nicotine for tobacco cigarette users (here Big Pharma speaks, making conclusions not based on actual research done in paper).
Another paper showing that e-cigs can provide more nic than cigarettes:
Nicotine absorption from electronic cigarette use: comparison between first and new-generation devices : Scientific Reports
EDIT: I have found out from where this idiocy about 12 mg/cigarette comes (electroniccigaretteconsumerreviews):
How Much Nicotine Is In One Cigarette?
Author of idiocy: Matt McConnell
Please, avoid this site if you are looking for vaping advocacy source, its too dumb.
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When it comes to vaping, especially with sub-ohming, there is a lot more vapor intake associated with it which leads to more nicotine intake.
Vaping 6mg on a 1.8ohm tootle-puff setup is going to be overall less intake than 6mg on a .5ohm or below build, pretty common sense if you wrap your head around it when you're a beginner.
I would find your sweet spot with your nicotine mg level, a level where your'e getting your nicotine fulfillment but not feeling woozy from it. It's all about finding a level where you're comfortable at too, which is easily acheivable.
Depending upon your setup and what ohms and wattage your tank is set at, I would start at 2mg of nicotine. If that's not enough, or its fine at first but then your body grows accustomed to the point where you don't feel the benefits of the nicotine, then bump it up to a 4mg. Keep going and stop where you're satisfied with.
I know people who vape 24mg on their Nautilus Mini tank. But I can only do 4mg max on my sub-ohm tanks. That is the limit that my body will allow, which in theory would equate to around 12mg (just a guess) due to the large vapor production. More vapor production equals more nicotine intake. Though there's no scientific equation for that.
Vaping 6mg on a 1.8ohm tootle-puff setup is going to be overall less intake than 6mg on a .5ohm or below build, pretty common sense if you wrap your head around it when you're a beginner.
I would find your sweet spot with your nicotine mg level, a level where your'e getting your nicotine fulfillment but not feeling woozy from it. It's all about finding a level where you're comfortable at too, which is easily acheivable.
Depending upon your setup and what ohms and wattage your tank is set at, I would start at 2mg of nicotine. If that's not enough, or its fine at first but then your body grows accustomed to the point where you don't feel the benefits of the nicotine, then bump it up to a 4mg. Keep going and stop where you're satisfied with.
I know people who vape 24mg on their Nautilus Mini tank. But I can only do 4mg max on my sub-ohm tanks. That is the limit that my body will allow, which in theory would equate to around 12mg (just a guess) due to the large vapor production. More vapor production equals more nicotine intake. Though there's no scientific equation for that.
But she is not sub-ohming.
Nicotine absorption from electronic cigarette use: comparison between first and new generation devices
Nicotine absorption from electronic cigarette use: comparison between first and new generation devices
Some vape shops, such as my local ones and various ones online, will allow you to "nic" any 0mg juice bottles in variables of 1mg. Such as 1mg, 2mg, 3mg, 4mg, 5mg, 6mg, 7mg, and on up. So it's super easy to find your nicotine sweet spot.
My favorite juice at my local shop comes in 3mg, but not 4mg. So I'll have them "nic it up" to a 4mg for me. I like it better than 3mg, I can tell the differences as it's slightly stronger and i'm satisfied in all regards.
My favorite juice at my local shop comes in 3mg, but not 4mg. So I'll have them "nic it up" to a 4mg for me. I like it better than 3mg, I can tell the differences as it's slightly stronger and i'm satisfied in all regards.
+1
Thanks for being another source of reason on this topic.
The comparison to cigarettes thats perpetuated is completely flawed.
The op proved it unequivicly. It really shouldn't even be a debate guys...
It really comes down to over fighting the antivaping coalitions by dissing Any true negative of nicotine.
Public announcement :
Everyone realize all different kinds of people vape and nic od could potentially lead to needed hospitalization of older or health compromised people with heart conditions or liver detoxification issues, ect.. .
Sure some can take 36mg no problem. Everyone is different, not everyone is 18 Years old. Many vaping are elderly and in poor health and thus trying to quit cigarettes!!. You do not know the heath condition of readers. Keep it real. Do you think your 80 y/o grandma can take what you can..
False information could hurt someone.
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