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Hi, salavat.
Same here. I don't have a Provari but have tried that combo on on a GP Paps and a Vamo.
I have no problem coiling neatly, lubing seals, taking my time and being OCD careful but still cannot prevent heavy leaking through the positive pin. I think it's both a pressure difference and an osmosis thingy, if you get my drift. Plus a few other factors, like the size of the fill/air holes.
I've tried the few suggestions available but to no avail. The best I got was vape a 1/2 filled tank (very nice), go to refill, and wolla, it's like a little tap, for dolls, that want to poison themselves if they were really thirsty and depressed but needed a good glug and didn't care about the consequences.
It's pretty frustrating as they're a lovely looking combo. Sorry this isn't a solution but if I find a combo (wick/wire/method) that works for me, I'll post back. The gf is away for 3 days so it's MY turn on the chopping board. Heh heh.
Cheers.
Same here. I don't have a Provari but have tried that combo on on a GP Paps and a Vamo.
I have no problem coiling neatly, lubing seals, taking my time and being OCD careful but still cannot prevent heavy leaking through the positive pin. I think it's both a pressure difference and an osmosis thingy, if you get my drift. Plus a few other factors, like the size of the fill/air holes.
I've tried the few suggestions available but to no avail. The best I got was vape a 1/2 filled tank (very nice), go to refill, and wolla, it's like a little tap, for dolls, that want to poison themselves if they were really thirsty and depressed but needed a good glug and didn't care about the consequences.
It's pretty frustrating as they're a lovely looking combo. Sorry this isn't a solution but if I find a combo (wick/wire/method) that works for me, I'll post back. The gf is away for 3 days so it's MY turn on the chopping board. Heh heh.
Cheers.
Thanks for reply. I read on GG thread here that some people do not experience any leaks at all, while others do. I think also that putting positive pin with strong pressure solves the problem to an extent. It leaks very little now, rather not leaking but giving a little moisture.
Hi again. Afraid I can't be of any help. Since then, I've read all pertinent posts and tried various suggestions. My problem is leaking around the outside of the cup and some through the pin. But mainly the cup. After a clean build and a few puffs in, I waited for the inevitable gurgle to appear, took it off and dabbed it on tissue: there was a ring of juice. Back on for a few more puffs, dabbed again, now a circle with adot in middle. So for me the cup is the worst problem.
The best I got was achieved by cutting two small washers out of cartomizer condoms, one to go around the pin, the other to go up onto the skinny bit of the cup and using 30awg with just one piece of NR, that for the negative as its thin and didn't push the cup too much to one side, and the 30awg tightened the pin nicely as mine is quite loose. It gave 1.4ohm and just about no leaking.
Yes, I tightened the pin as I said but am now thinking so what, like the cup, the wire forces it to the side. I mean sure, its tight, but its not sealed. The liquid will still travel.
I'm not sticking with it as its a pain and as one of the Paps guys said, it shouldn't be a modding project in itself. That's just too much messing around. Most seem to work and that's all I want: one that just works. I'm going to send it back with the offer to pay for return postage and ask them to see if they can get it to work or is it just me, or the unit. I'm curious. Will have to wait 'till they return from hols.
P.S. In the event anyone wonders, yes all pieces are pressed firmly together, the various coil builds are good, yes all lubed properly before assembly and I've tried both sets of o-rings.
The best I got was achieved by cutting two small washers out of cartomizer condoms, one to go around the pin, the other to go up onto the skinny bit of the cup and using 30awg with just one piece of NR, that for the negative as its thin and didn't push the cup too much to one side, and the 30awg tightened the pin nicely as mine is quite loose. It gave 1.4ohm and just about no leaking.
Yes, I tightened the pin as I said but am now thinking so what, like the cup, the wire forces it to the side. I mean sure, its tight, but its not sealed. The liquid will still travel.
I'm not sticking with it as its a pain and as one of the Paps guys said, it shouldn't be a modding project in itself. That's just too much messing around. Most seem to work and that's all I want: one that just works. I'm going to send it back with the offer to pay for return postage and ask them to see if they can get it to work or is it just me, or the unit. I'm curious. Will have to wait 'till they return from hols.
P.S. In the event anyone wonders, yes all pieces are pressed firmly together, the various coil builds are good, yes all lubed properly before assembly and I've tried both sets of o-rings.
Thanks for detailed reply.
Aside the factors mentioned, affecting leaking of Diver, I guess the central pin should be suspect in most cases. It has to be firmly kept by the ceramics (I emailed to Konstantinos, who made the Diver), which means that the non res wire in ceramics hole has to keep it firmly attached somehow - may be through twisting, angling etc, give it a try, if you will. Also, I found hardly pushing central pin into the plastic isolator helps somehow too.
Alternative to Diver is Killer 705, which far more user friendly device to set up. Taste "sound" quite similar between those too.
Aside the factors mentioned, affecting leaking of Diver, I guess the central pin should be suspect in most cases. It has to be firmly kept by the ceramics (I emailed to Konstantinos, who made the Diver), which means that the non res wire in ceramics hole has to keep it firmly attached somehow - may be through twisting, angling etc, give it a try, if you will. Also, I found hardly pushing central pin into the plastic isolator helps somehow too.
Alternative to Diver is Killer 705, which far more user friendly device to set up. Taste "sound" quite similar between those too.
Salavat, again. Hi.
Just posting some updates.
I think I have it sorted.
Just to recap, I don't like faffing around to much and have decided to pursue a relatively simple res/ no res strategy; that being, only use silver on one leg - I don't have to calc to the mm yet there is only a tiny loss in resistence. And, when the silver is pulled up, it doesn't push the cup too far off centre, being thinner and softer. Or, if I wish and the ohms are ok for me, just res wire. I use mainly 30awg.
I've found that how the wick is placed/ rolled is my problem. 3 x 2mm silica stacked, with one leg silver, the rest 30awg (that for the post, silver pulled up) left me with no leaks after 3 days vaping. I tried to keep them 'stacked' and didn't wrap the wire to tight, thinking to allow for expansion. Filling the vertical channel, carefully without 'cutting' the silica as I pushed it down seems to have done the trick.
I think my problem before was wick style (eg. 6x1mm, or 2x2mm). The 6x1mm didn't wick as well as the above: pity, as I really don't like seeing the 2mm silica fibers splinter off as I screw the diver together. The 2x2 wasn't enough.3x2 worked.
Oh, some food for thought! Tonight, as now I really couldn't give a hoot about wastage, I joined silver/30awg wire (just one leg) and made a 'microcoil' with about 8 wraps. I wrapped it on a small screwdriver (@1.5mm), very tight and pulled some cotton through it. Trimmed it pretty short, about 1.5mm past the edge of the cup. Still the Diver in the Salt & Pepper tank on the dog (Vamo used like a tractor, for testing and stuff), @2.7ohms @ 10watts and its going great. I mean, not a drop/ hint of a leak.
Anyway, sorry to bore you, so good luck with things.
Just posting some updates.
I think I have it sorted.
Just to recap, I don't like faffing around to much and have decided to pursue a relatively simple res/ no res strategy; that being, only use silver on one leg - I don't have to calc to the mm yet there is only a tiny loss in resistence. And, when the silver is pulled up, it doesn't push the cup too far off centre, being thinner and softer. Or, if I wish and the ohms are ok for me, just res wire. I use mainly 30awg.
I've found that how the wick is placed/ rolled is my problem. 3 x 2mm silica stacked, with one leg silver, the rest 30awg (that for the post, silver pulled up) left me with no leaks after 3 days vaping. I tried to keep them 'stacked' and didn't wrap the wire to tight, thinking to allow for expansion. Filling the vertical channel, carefully without 'cutting' the silica as I pushed it down seems to have done the trick.
I think my problem before was wick style (eg. 6x1mm, or 2x2mm). The 6x1mm didn't wick as well as the above: pity, as I really don't like seeing the 2mm silica fibers splinter off as I screw the diver together. The 2x2 wasn't enough.3x2 worked.
Oh, some food for thought! Tonight, as now I really couldn't give a hoot about wastage, I joined silver/30awg wire (just one leg) and made a 'microcoil' with about 8 wraps. I wrapped it on a small screwdriver (@1.5mm), very tight and pulled some cotton through it. Trimmed it pretty short, about 1.5mm past the edge of the cup. Still the Diver in the Salt & Pepper tank on the dog (Vamo used like a tractor, for testing and stuff), @2.7ohms @ 10watts and its going great. I mean, not a drop/ hint of a leak.
Anyway, sorry to bore you, so good luck with things.
Found this thread while googling driver rba leaks. I get serious leak problems when using my diver with the salt and pepper tank. When i use other tanks i get no leaks at all. Can't work out how to stop the SNP leaks
I just got my Diver yesterday and it works just fine. I didn't rely so much on the cup and airhole alignment which is recommented in the Atmystique video still works fine. I used the prebuild wick and that seems to be 2mm silica. It is installed in a electronicstix fuel tank and I used a carto filling tool to fill the tank. So far I'm pleased and look forward to my 3mm coil I build and trying ecowool and hemp wicks at some point also. Can't imagine what you all have done to cause the leaking since I've yet to get a hint of flooding.
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