DIY High Voltage juice

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The Drizzle

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Hey everyone,

I'm wondering if there are certain flavors that are better or worse than others at High Voltage. I also wonder what the VG content should be. I would guess that a HV juice has a much higher VG content than a juice made for regular PVs, but that is speculation on my part.

I have some TW Platinum Ice PG based liquid and some ECOpure Krystal VG based liquid on the way, and will experiment with both, but would love to hear your thoughts on the matter.

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I do most of my vaping on a 5v Prodigy. I compare my e-juice's viscosity against NHaler High Voltage juice that I know works well.

Place a drop of each on a mirror laid flat, then lift the mirror to 90 degrees, and see how fast the drops slide down the mirror. If my juice slides faster then it's too thin so I add VG. If the NHaler slides faster then mine is too thick so I add vodka to mine.


That said, the same juice almost always works well in my 3.7v Chuck, too. So the viscosity might not have much affect on HV volting.

I'd think that HV PVs would want a thinner juice - theoretically a 5v or 6v burns juice faster than a 3.7v, so it needs to wick faster, so it should be a little thinner.

But this depends on your vaping habits, especially how long between vapes. And many different viscosities seems to work just fine.
 

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It's not too big of a deal, so don't be too worried about it. Most pre-made juices will work fine on most any device.

Anyway, it's really the other way around - high-voltage devices may prefer a liquid of a different viscosity. Or particular flavors that don't lose too much to the high heat. DIY allows you to tune your juice to your device, if you are so inclined.

There are also other variables involved, like the model of atomizer. Most people will say that a 510 burns hotter than other atomizer, and certain juices/flavors work well with it. Other people like an 801's cooler vapor and say it keeps more flavor.

And then there's all the variables in the cartridge, particularly the material used to wick the juice. The typical polyfill wicks thin juice faster than thick juice - so maybe a thick juice won't wick fast enough to feed a high-voltage device.

And then there's the variable of a person's habit - that thin polyfill might not wick too fast, but it doesn't matter if you wait a long time between vapes. It will matter if you quickly take 3 or 4 vapes and then put it down for a few minutes.

The number of variables are insane, really.

So I'd recommend that you don't worry about "what is best" but instead, wait for a problem. Once you encounter a problem (like "my juice doesn't wick fast enough what can I do" ) then apply a solution to that problem, rather than trying to apply a global non-solution to a non-problem that you don't have.
 

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This might be a n00b question but how do you know what voltage is best for your DIY juices? Is it a guess based on the viscosity, liquid content or something else?

I'm not sure what you mean... What voltage are you using? I'd say whatever PV you have on hand is what you should be mixing juice for, but I'm a noob myself, so what do I know ;)

I have an L88b and a Silver Bullet. The JC juice that I use for the little guy is less viscous than the Nhaler HV juice I use at 6v, even after I add a little VG for better vapor. Drew's juice is great at HV and I'm using it to model my DIY HV juice. The JC juice is PG based, and while Drew's HV juice doesn't list it's base, I think it has to have a higher VG content.

At this point I'm cutting the JC juice with VG in a 1:1 ratio. It's ok, but the flavor suffers. I'm still waiting on primary components for true DIY, so I thought I'd do a little research first. I'll let you know what I find when I can do some testing. Still wondering about flavors that can withstand a HV 510 atty...:p
 

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I guess my question is how I know that what I mixed up is going to work right with my 3.7v KR808D-1 style batteries. Maybe I need to have a 5v batt on hand as well.
Ah, gotcha. Here is what I do: First find a juice that you know works well with your KR808. Place a drop on a very clean mirror laid flat on a table. Place a drop of your juice next to it. Lift the mirror to 90 degrees. If your drop flows down faster, it's a little thin, so add some VG to thicken it. If your drop flows slower, it's a little thick, so add some water or vodka or pure grain alcohol to thin it. Make changes in small amounts and don't worry about being exact.


Scottes - Your answer makes sense. I've read a lot of your posts and your answers have always been logical, practical, and sound. =)
Glad I could help.
 
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