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I'm not into fancy coil builds. I'm too lazy and didn't see the need for me so far.
I didn't see any point in them either. maybe a twisted build.

but then I made a zipper coil build for my hobo V2 and man FLAVOR. I HATED drippers. I never ever got a good quality vape out of them in terms of flavor. clouds for days though. Until I build that zipper coil. then I made a fused clapton and normal clapton and I honestly can't go back to ordinary coils for rebuildables.

I honestly find it completely worth the effort especially since normal micro or macro coils don't do much for me.

I am just waiting for a herakles coil or general premade coil that uses like clapton wire.
Imagine premade coils for your tank that has clapton wires in there. or even a alien wire or zipper.
that .... would bump up flavor so hard man.
 
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The standard micros work great but that preheat we have now, those massive coils are going to shine.

If you spend a while vaping on Ti it will reveal the taste Ni200 has when you go back. I have avoided nickle altogether, just rebuilt the stock Subtank coils with Ti.

Another thing, the DNA 200 is a dream for us TI users, we have an accurate temp reading now. The offset on the DNA 40 was 80-100 degrees but I still had some dryish hits. The Evic VT just blows due to locking in issues. I am in heaven now... please don't break, lol.
 
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Titanium is where it's at and where it going, IMO. I may have vaped the Kool-Aid and some are critical of the pricey wire and magic processing but the Sweet Spot Ti with their specific .csv is giving me a dream vape... best I have experienced in 4 years. I still have to delve into the fused Claptons and Alien builds so even more fun ahead.
Just so you know, you're vaping on grade 2 Ti. Nothing wrong with that, just keep an eye on the coil and dump it as soon as you can see a titanium dioxide layer. Grade 2 produces much more easily TiO2 because of the extra oxygen contamination.

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Just so you know, you're vaping on grade 2 Ti. Nothing wrong with that, just keep an eye on the coil and dump it as soon as you can see a titanium dioxide layer. Grade 2 produces much more easily TiO2 because of the extra oxygen contamination.

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It is said to fail before TiO2 can form also I believe Ari said they start with grade 1. Where did you glean it was G2?
 

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It is said to fail before TiO2 can form also I believe Ari said they start with grade 1. Where did you glean it was G2?
In an email they sent to a customer, they state they start with grade 2 and then do some magic stuff to make it better than grade 1.

Unfortunately, the special annealing process they mention is scientifically impossible to use to remove oxygen from titanium.

The email was posted on the titanium safety thread (or TCR thread, need to confirm) . Take a peek and read the comments about it... Specially Duane's valuable input.

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(feel free to tell me to edit if this is the wrong place for it) Just got a nickel clapton put into my royal hunter clone today for my Opus. Temperature control works like a dream, much better than another chip I have made by another company I will not name (for fear of starting a war), but only with my tanks with nickel coils. This RH clone is the only dripper I have and, despite this being a new build, the temperature control wasn't working after like two pulls. Same thing happened on my last regular nickel build in this RDA on that other TC mod. Could this clone just be a piece of a crap and the screws are backing out after being heated any amount or something else weird going on? I was using the atomizer analyzer in Escribe and everything seemed okay? Resistance was locked, but the hits would get hot and eventually taste a bit burnt. I know this is not a problem with the board...
 

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Thanks Tony,

What I got from SSV.... Looking at the Ti thread now.

"We use a custom metal formulation for the benefits of a Gr2

Fe, N, C, H

but then remove O2 BELOW Gr1 levels through vacuum annealing

our product isn't Gr1 or Gr2 those terms don't matter in our application

The raw billets start life as Gr2 variations, but through our process we remove almost ALL of the oxygen

but we keep the insulators....so our wire oxidizes at HIGER temps than Gr1"
 

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Here the link

Titanium wire, vaping and safety | Page 83 | E-Cigarette Forum

(edit: correct link to message posted)

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Well this is certainly interesting to me and I want to understand! Ari can't reply being a registered vendor so it continues...

"When Ti is hot you can pull oxygen from it

just like when it's hot you can bond o2 to it that's how things oxidize

if you can't remove o2 from titanium, then why would gr1 or gr2 have different level of o2?

they are contradicting themselves

if you can't remove o2, then all Ti would have exactly the same o2 content

GR2 Ti is used in aerospace skins, because of it's greater ductility and greater stregth under heat, for leading edges

you can most certainly remove o2 content from Ti otherwise ALL Ti would have the same o2 content"


Showing it is possible although SSV uses a different process to achieve O2 removal...
REMOVING OXYGEN FROM TITANIUM
Purification Process and Characterization of Ultra High Purity Metals ... - Google Books
 
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We use grade 5 for surgical applications... You can't say grade x is better than grade y. It all depends on the application.

Of course you can remove o2 from ti but not by vacuum annealing. Which is what they say they are doing.

It's like if svoemesto would say it buys 317 steel and then modifies it into 316L steel through a special and secret process specially targeted for producing vaping atomizers...

And suddently it becomes whole new special grade?

I don't think so but if you like it, well... Use it.


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We use grade 5 for surgical applications... You can't say grade x is better than grade y. It all depends on the application.

Of course you can remove o2 from ti but not by vacuum annealing. Which is what they say they are doing.

It's like if svoemesto would say it buys 317 steel and then modifies it into 316L steel through a special and secret process specially targeted for producing vaping atomizers...

And suddently it becomes whole new special grade?

I don't think so but if you like it, well... Use it.


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Yes, use with caution as with all aspects of vaping, thank you.
 

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Just in the process of getting the Evolv proto case printed, these need some clean up but could look pretty decent;

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