DNA 200 Watt

[Jeremy Schreiber]

Would also like to know if the pre-built Ni coils for the Crown give you the same vaping issue.

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I have the prebuilt nickel coils for the Crown and I think they are fantastic. I am running them at 50 watts and 440 degrees right now as I am slowly breaking them in (not necessary - just experimenting to seeing if it extends the life at all because I use nasty juices that kill all of my coils) and it is a warm, dense vape. I generally turn it up to 70 watts 480 degrees and stay there and it is perfect.

I had the stainless coils running on TC with my Opus as well, however, the TCR from Steam Engine was off by a bit so I figured I would be better off using the nickel coils on the Crown for now.

ALSO: Has anyone else seen Rip Tripper's first look at the Vapor Shark 200? He is referencing a problem running nickel claptons and hybrid builds (either saying they are in temp mode and burning or jumping out of temp mode) which he has had on "all" his DNA200 devices (hasn't tried the VS yet though). I have the same problem, however, I figured it was my incompetence building nickel claptons or hybrid builds and not the device. Is anyone else having this problem or have a solution?

 

[Croak]

you could try titanium wire, iv been using it a few days and im very impressed. Easy to wrap, benefits of temp control, great flavour really clean, and it gives clouds that would expect from Kanthal. In my goliath v2 iv got dual 26g 8 wraps 2.4mm id with the air flow at about 1/4 open and it vapes very well, much better than ni200 does. Ni200 always feels like its holding you back unless you wrap it with Kanthal twisted into an ni200 coil which takes longer. Only down side to titanium coils is you need to clean your wire before wrapping it, even saying that its my favourite out of all the coil materials i have tried so far

Love ya Steve, but I had to FTFY. No e, just a, and it's a proper noun so it's supposed to be capitalized. Sorry mate, I get .... about the language sometimes.

 

[Darkly spectr]

If you're using the crown and a dna200, why don't you use the SS coils?

I tried that.

same issue of very weak vape. at points its like 490 = weak 500 = jesus what the ....

inb4 my 510 isn't done right and it's messing everything up.

 

[SteveAdams86]

Love ya Steve, but I had to FTFY. No e, just a, and it's a proper noun so it's supposed to be capitalized. Sorry mate, I get .... about the language sometimes.

thanks for correcting me i was never sure of the correct spelling, cheers

 

[Mad Scientist]

I have the prebuilt nickel coils for the Crown and I think they are fantastic. I am running them at 50 watts and 440 degrees right now as I am slowly breaking them in (not necessary - just experimenting to seeing if it extends the life at all because I use nasty juices that kill all of my coils) and it is a warm, dense vape. I generally turn it up to 70 watts 480 degrees and stay there and it is perfect.

I had the stainless coils running on TC with my Opus as well, however, the TCR from Steam Engine was off by a bit so I figured I would be better off using the nickel coils on the Crown for now.

ALSO: Has anyone else seen Rip Tripper's first look at the Vapor Shark 200? He is referencing a problem running nickel claptons and hybrid builds (either saying they are in temp mode and burning or jumping out of temp mode) which he has had on "all" his DNA200 devices (hasn't tried the VS yet though). I have the same problem, however, I figured it was my incompetence building nickel claptons or hybrid builds and not the device. Is anyone else having this problem or have a solution?

I think the problem is once TCR either gets too far below the profile curve or just too low in absolute terms, the mod delivers power but does not see a corresponding increase in resistance (representing temp rise) that it "expects." When this happens, it has to jump out of TC mode because the coil resistance isn't rising enough with temp.

To try to reduce its happening, try to better model the TCR profile to the actual TCR of the hybrid wire. I don't think it can be eliminated completely because if the TCR of the hybrid wire is just too low to work in TC mode, then it's just too low to work in TC mode. Likewise the resistance of a Ni 200 Clapton may be simply too low to see much absolute change in resistance with temp. Since TC needs to see some material change in resistance as temp rises to work, a huge chunk of Ni Clapton just isn't going to do it. Ti would likely work better but I haven't actually tried a Ti Clapton.

 

[Darkly spectr]

Has anybody ever done that battery analyzer thing on escribe? wonder if it helps with the battery meter or not

 

[tomr1088]

I think the problem is once TCR either gets too far below the profile curve or just too low in absolute terms, the mod delivers power but does not see a corresponding increase in resistance (representing temp rise) that it "expects." When this happens, it has to jump out of TC mode because the coil resistance isn't rising enough with temp.

To try to reduce its happening, try to better model the TCR profile to the actual TCR of the hybrid wire. I don't think it can be eliminated completely because if the TCR of the hybrid wire is just too low to work in TC mode, then it's just too low to work in TC mode. Likewise the resistance of a Ni 200 Clapton may be simply too low to see much absolute change in resistance with temp. Since TC needs to see some material change in resistance as temp rises to work, a huge chunk of Ni Clapton just isn't going to do it. Ti would likely work better but I haven't actually tried a Ti Clapton.

My ni200 claptons always work perfectly. I use 26 core 28 outside.

 

[Phone Guy]

Had anyone found ni200 clapton wire? I know I saw some somewhere, but cant find it now.

I'm in the old school camp, I can't get used to coil replaceable tanks. I use my Taifun and build it accordingly. The juices I use tend to gunk up Coils every tank, maybe I get lucky and run 2 tanks, that's it. I couldn't replace Coils every tank or two. As is, I have to rebuild every tank or two but that's way cheaper than a $3+ coil.

 

[Darkly spectr]

.....what the hell do you use as juice that it gunks up after two tanks?

 

[IanDVaypes]

.....what the hell do you use as juice that it gunks up after two tanks?

Dark amber flavors that pack a lot of yummy flavor.

 

[HolmanGT]

Dark amber flavors that pack a lot of yummy flavor.

Made by waht juice company?

 

[Darkly spectr]

Dark amber flavors that pack a lot of yummy flavor.

as much as I love flavorfull juice(haha me and flavor....ha....I envy you people with taste buds that pick up flavor from vapor), a juice that destroys my coil in two tanks just would get thrown around. are you talking about just "urgh looks nasty but vapes fine" or "urgh this is completely crap"?

 

[IanDVaypes]

as much as I love flavorfull juice(haha me and flavor....ha....I envy you people with taste buds that pick up flavor from vapor), a juice that destroys my coil in two tanks just would get thrown around. are you talking about just "urgh looks nasty but vapes fine" or "urgh this is completely crap"?

To me it's like it vapes fine but it looses about 25% of flavor after a tank or two.

 

[jazzvaper]

To me it's like it vapes fine but it looses about 25% of flavor after a tank or two.

25% or MORE flavor loss.

 

[VapingBad]

Had anyone found ni200 clapton wire? I know I saw some somewhere, but cant find it now.

I'm in the old school camp, I can't get used to coil replaceable tanks. I use my Taifun and build it accordingly. The juices I use tend to gunk up Coils every tank, maybe I get lucky and run 2 tanks, that's it. I couldn't replace Coils every tank or two. As is, I have to rebuild every tank or two but that's way cheaper than a $3+ coil.

FT have both wire and coils in Ni200, not tried them myself.

 

[dwcraig1]

Speaking of wire from FT, here's my tracking, it would have arrived in my box today but it's a holiday. Regular epacket.
DATE & TIME
STATUS OF ITEM
LOCATION
September 6, 2015 , 8:40 pm
Arrived at USPS Destination Facility
SAN DIEGO, CA 92199
Your item arrived at our USPS destination facility in SAN DIEGO, CA 92199 on September 6, 2015 at 8:40 pm. The item is currently in transit to the destination.
September 5, 2015 , 11:31 pm
Departed USPS Facility
SAN FRANCISCO, CA 94128
September 5, 2015 , 8:30 am
Arrived at USPS Facility
SAN FRANCISCO, CA 94128
September 5, 2015 , 7:59 am
Processed Through Sort Facility
ISC SAN FRANCISCO (USPS)
Origin Post is Preparing Shipment
September 1, 2015 , 2:42 pm
Processed Through Sort Facility
SHENZHEN EMS, CHINA
September 1, 2015 , 10:24 am
Acceptance
CHINA

 

[Croak]

That's blazing fast for an E-Packet.

 

[Darkly spectr]

my packages from fasttech keep on getting that security return crap

Shenzhen exchange bureau , has been exported to be opened
Guangzhou courier company , security return

this happens like three times before it finally gets put on a plane to belgium.

 

[BlueridgeDog]

FT have both wire and coils in Ni200, not tried them myself.

I got a big box of their coils (nickel). Gotta say I love them. Simple, fast, easy, perfect.

 

[Vlad1]

Looking for someone with some expertise with Escribe to clear up a question I have. I've just began working with Escribe & Device monitor and learning the tool so I'm not really clear on it's capabilities or accuracy. The question I have is when using Device monitor and Recording the data I find that no matter how I use the captured data to calculate Power it doesn't match the Recorded Power in the .csv log. So I'm in question of where does the Logged Power data come from? And why do all three calculations come up with different results when using 3 different formula's P=I*V, P=V^2/R, P=R*I^2 using the logged data? This leads me to believe the logged data is either in error, or is an approximation from some other data point that's not being logged or the time sync for each set of variables being captured is not in sync with the log? Hopefully someone can clear this up. It could be a useful tool but if it's not accurate it's not really meaningful to me.