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No idea.... just posted what I read in another forum that was discussing SSV...maybe I typed wrong???
Well I complained on the sweet spot vapors facebook and I have been talking to somebody from there and he ran the numbers again and again and said it comes out right.
this morning I got send a V2 beta version of the 0,4 CSV by the owner of SSV(i think) and it works great. 450F is now a nicely warm smooth vape instead of my previous experience with the V1 that scorched my wet wick at 420F. going to do cotton tests tonight and see if it passes or not.
you can thank me
this morning I got send a V2 beta version of the 0,4 CSV by the owner of SSV(i think) and it works great. 450F is now a nicely warm smooth vape instead of my previous experience with the V1 that scorched my wet wick at 420F. going to do cotton tests tonight and see if it passes or not.
you can thank me
Well I complained on the sweet spot vapors facebook and I have been talking to somebody from there and he ran the numbers again and again and said it comes out right.
this morning I got send a V2 beta version of the 0,4 CSV by the owner of SSV(i think) and it works great. 450F is now a nicely warm smooth vape instead of my previous experience with the V1 that scorched my wet wick at 420F. going to do cotton tests tonight and see if it passes or not.
you can thank me
WHAT.... you want to be thanked.....
......just kidding..... anybody that tries to help make the vape experience better deserves a "THANK YOU" (that's a big thank you )I am just joking bahaha.
man the owner of SSV is a nice guy. definitely will be sticking with their titanium.
man the owner of SSV is a nice guy. definitely will be sticking with their titanium.
But my thanks still applies to all others too who further the vape experience....it's amazing how it has changed in the 5+ years I've been vaping...
Ok guys. The reuleaux is working perfectly. This is my first dna200 device. Beautiful easy peasy. Only been using it for 1 hour lol.
I have 1 worry though. I have Ti wire from FT. Downloaded the Ti graph from steam engine. Made a coil with 26g. Dry fired at 10 watts and 450F. Looked fine and felt right. So i wicked and wet it well.
The thing is I tried to vape at 10 watts and kicked me out of temp control. And thanks to the discussions here I knew right away it is because of the inability to get any change in the temp it didn't know. I am by no means a beginner and I do know that 26 g 8 wraps around 3 mm needs at least 20 watts for a meaningful vape
. But now the resistance jumped around (because it thinks no temp) and I cannot manage anymore.
Easy solution I left it for a while, removed and rescrewed the atty, put new coil, and fired at 60. Back again. Now took it back to 20 watts with 40 as preheat.
My worry: if I go back to say 13 watts and remove preheat, will it kick out again? Will it test again if it were a temp coil, or not? I'm not worried about burning or anything, but I don't want to go through the same process again.
I don't see it as an issue if someone say vapes all the time at low wattage. As long as he does that he wouldn't care if the Ti coil is changing resistance as he won't reach high temps anyway. But someone like me might put it 13 then 40 then 60 just because. I'm thinking once it kicks it out I have to redo the process again to be able to vape at high wattage without burning the coil.
Sorry for the long post.
I have 1 worry though. I have Ti wire from FT. Downloaded the Ti graph from steam engine. Made a coil with 26g. Dry fired at 10 watts and 450F. Looked fine and felt right. So i wicked and wet it well.
The thing is I tried to vape at 10 watts and kicked me out of temp control. And thanks to the discussions here I knew right away it is because of the inability to get any change in the temp it didn't know. I am by no means a beginner and I do know that 26 g 8 wraps around 3 mm needs at least 20 watts for a meaningful vape
. But now the resistance jumped around (because it thinks no temp) and I cannot manage anymore.Easy solution I left it for a while, removed and rescrewed the atty, put new coil, and fired at 60. Back again. Now took it back to 20 watts with 40 as preheat.
My worry: if I go back to say 13 watts and remove preheat, will it kick out again? Will it test again if it were a temp coil, or not? I'm not worried about burning or anything, but I don't want to go through the same process again.
I don't see it as an issue if someone say vapes all the time at low wattage. As long as he does that he wouldn't care if the Ti coil is changing resistance as he won't reach high temps anyway. But someone like me might put it 13 then 40 then 60 just because. I'm thinking once it kicks it out I have to redo the process again to be able to vape at high wattage without burning the coil.
Sorry for the long post.
Aal_ hello and nice to see you bought a DNA200 device. Personally, I don't care about the watts and I've debated this for a while now. Before, I never vaped more than 40-45W. However, with the DNA200 I have the preheat at 80W and 45W normal vaping and I've had it like this since the beginning; I don't feel the need to go back and adjust this. The board will regulate to the according power and as long as it's not much higher than you really need, you shouldn't care about it.
However, if you still feel that you want to vape at a specific lower, make different profiles. One with higher power and one with lower power. Attach the atty to the higher power and fire it. Then, go to the lower one and if you see it coming out of TC you can go back to the original profile. You do not need to wait for it to cool down, it has the original cold ohms in memory.
However, if you still feel that you want to vape at a specific lower, make different profiles. One with higher power and one with lower power. Attach the atty to the higher power and fire it. Then, go to the lower one and if you see it coming out of TC you can go back to the original profile. You do not need to wait for it to cool down, it has the original cold ohms in memory.
I don't know if SSV is even grade 2. According to Jaquith over on the evolv forums, he doesn't think it is grade 1-5 but some other grade. I've never owned any of the wire so I don't know.
I give mine enough wattage and pre-heat such that the TC regulates...honestly all my 200s are set at 100w pre and 200w vape and I use Ti.
I still can't deal with them scamming people with that "made for vapers" wire though
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so far so good, easily last me more than a day, even though I usually switch it with VTC mini. right now vaping a .41 ohm dual coil in a Crius, not too shabby I would say
unless there is solid proof of them just using Ti gr2. I will take their word for it.
I have tried 3 brands of titanium wires before SSV. two generic grade 1titanium brands and titanium wire from a UK producer. none of them worked properly. no matter the CSV I used.
SSV is the only titanium that I have been able to enjoy. Especially with the V2 of the CSV. surprpised I am liking a spaced coil
You can say whatever about "blablabla they don't make the wire inhouse or they just rebrand wire" but they atleast PUT the wire they sell through testing and provide good CSV files for their wire instead of people having to use the same standard CSV on steam engine. they are actually the only ones that do the effort.
Regardless of where it comes from...great wire. Easy to work, decent resistance and a high enough TCR to be useful. I have it in 12 atomizers and really have no complaints.
Maybe because theirs doesn't work with a standard tcr of 0.0035 [emoji14]
In any case, we are all grown up here.
That wire is "based" on Ti gr2 according to the owner. What they've done to it is a mystery they don't want to reveal. It's certainly not titanium gr1.
Personally I'm fine with what other people vape. Just don't expect me to do the same. I refuse to knowingly vape any beta alloy regardless if it's Ti or nickel based. I don't want to.
I'm sorry you had trouble with commercially pure titanium. I find mine quite satisfying and working perfectly in TC mode.
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In any case, we are all grown up here.
That wire is "based" on Ti gr2 according to the owner. What they've done to it is a mystery they don't want to reveal. It's certainly not titanium gr1.
Personally I'm fine with what other people vape. Just don't expect me to do the same. I refuse to knowingly vape any beta alloy regardless if it's Ti or nickel based. I don't want to.
I'm sorry you had trouble with commercially pure titanium. I find mine quite satisfying and working perfectly in TC mode.
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SSV has said publicly that their wire is grade 2 titanium that they anneal with a proprietary process that reduces the oxygen content.
The problem is that it is thermodynamically impossible to reduce oxygen in metallic titanium by any thermal treatment of solid titanium . If you do some homework you will confirm that. I spent over 35 years developing titanium alloys for gas turbine engine applications and I can assure you that they do NOT have an annealing process that decreases the oxygen content of Grade 2 wire.
The wire can and will work with the proper CSV. What is maddening to me and many people who care about the integrity of the vendors they deal with is that false statements are made in an attempt to justify prices far above the market for Grade 1 wires . If you would like additional information you may PM me.
Duane
Can anyone guide me a bit in if/how I could troubleshoot atty temp control problems using escribe? I got a Wotofo Serpent today (and a Reuleaux DNA 200) and it refuses to work properly in tc. I've tried both ss304 and ti01 coils. It'll hit tc at about 8-10w (sometimes lower), but the same ss304 build works perfectly at around at 35w in vw mode. So it would indicate that the ohm reading is off, but at the same time I get burnt taste if increase the temp to 220c (I have it at 420f), while not going near 35w. I just can't get what the problem is. I've run the mmmmmmm-
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Hook it up to Escribe and at the bottom of the General Tab is Atomizer Analyzer. You will be able to see if your resistance, if it is stable or jumping all over the place. Check to see if your preheat is at 200 watts on the same general tab, you might want to lower it to 80-100. Finally you can click on the Device Manager and see what's going on as you take a puff. Will show the temperature rising and power being used. If I think of anything else I'll post or shoot you a PM.
Cheers,
Steve
so my hcigar dna200 mod decided to die after less then a weeks use...screen displayed warranty service.
this was in the beginning of December.....found out today from the b&m I purchased it from that the replacement will finally be in tonight, so I should have it in my hands again by tomorrow.
this was in the beginning of December.....found out today from the b&m I purchased it from that the replacement will finally be in tonight, so I should have it in my hands again by tomorrow.
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